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RE: [harryproa] Re: Anyone there ?

Hi Robert &al
 
I'm in exactly the same position which is why I've had my head down for a while, since Derek's workshop and my visit with Bain. I'm still trying to work out the "disengagement" (what else do you call a "divorce" from a legally recognised, long-term, relationship?) so that perhaps I can get the money together. Sorry Bain but I am trying, really hard.

Enjoy
Jim Baltaxe
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Island Bay, Wellington
NEW ZEALAND
+64 (04) 938 6018
027 563 5018
They said, get a life. I looked on TradeMe but I couldn't find one.


From: harryproa@... [mailto:harryproa@...] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, 20 December 2007 4:16 p.m.
To: harryproa@...
Subject: [harryproa] Re: Anyone there ?

-waiting with bated breath for the next development of the Harry. Love
to see the promised photos of Sidecar and Solitarry I am still keen to
get a Harry but health and wealth defy me. The concept still makes the
most sense to me and the boats out there look pretty good. If I had
the cash I'd probably just buy Bain's Aroha and get sailing.
Meanwhile I'm investigating doing a KSS system using polyprop and
epoxy with an end bulkhead with foam ends.
Robert

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Hi, Still doing work to improve rig and steering. Be shakedown cruising somewhere South soon, then off later Jan. Doug Rob Denney <harryproa@...> wrote: ...
Doug Haines
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Dec 27, 2007
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Hi Robert &al I'm in exactly the same position which is why I've had my head down for a while, since Derek's workshop and my visit with Bain. I'm still trying ...
Jim Baltaxe
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Jan 3, 2008
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-G'day Jim, Sorry to hear of your difficulties. Not a nice situation but there can be an afterlife Did you get a chance to sail on Aroha? Robert...
Robert
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Jan 3, 2008
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Hi Robert I did get out onto him/her on the last day before Bain so kindly took me to the airport, but unfortunately it was pelting down like mad. We rowed out...
Jim Baltaxe
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Jan 14, 2008
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-Hi Jim, I was certainly impressed with the build when I saw 'Aroha' in the earlier stages- I even helped with a bit of the fairing on one of the rudders so it...
Robert
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Jan 14, 2008
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Hi Robert If what you say about the rudders is true then why is there, or has there been, so much worrying about the design of the rudders? Rob and others have...
Jim Baltaxe
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Jan 15, 2008
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G'day, The side of hull mounted rudders work well, as did the in hull dagger rudders before them and the in hull spade rudders before them. They are far...
Rob Denney
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Jan 15, 2008
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The biggest negative about the hull hung rudders, well the mk 2 version, is they would be difficult to replace once the shear pins broke. At the moment they...
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Jan 15, 2008
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Hi All, Rob, Mark especially Thanks for the very useful comments about rudders. With all the discussion and personalities it is sometimes difficult to follow a...
Jim Baltaxe
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Jan 16, 2008
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Hi All, Rob, Mark especially I just remembered that my first correspondence with Rob had to do with rudder design. His early plans for Harry had two side-hung...
Jim Baltaxe
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Jan 16, 2008
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G'day, The side hung rudders (very similar to yours, except the shaft went all the way through the hull) failed because the two way foils stalled at very low...
Rob Denney
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Jan 16, 2008
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Good to see others are thinking about rudder designs. Jim we have four criteria for the rudders/daggerboards. They must turn at least 240 degs, they must pivot...
Mark Stephens
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Jan 16, 2008
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Hi Mark &al Thanks for the clarification. If I understand you correctly, the problem with that old design is that they lose the ability to shunt in a shoal ...
Jim Baltaxe
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Jan 16, 2008
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Hi Mark &al Any chance of some photos or drawings of the beam mounted rudders? Enjoy Jim Baltaxe They said, get a life. I looked on TradeMe but I couldn't find...
Jim Baltaxe
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Jan 21, 2008
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My rudders used to be mounted on the beams. Jim Baltaxe <jim.baltaxe@...> wrote: Hi Mark &al Any chance of some photos or drawings of the beam...
Doug Haines
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Jan 25, 2008
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G'day, I have put some photos in the Files section (not sure why I didn't put them in Photos). They are not pretty and it is definitely time to paint all the...
Rob Denney
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Jan 25, 2008
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Hi, Sailing's been pretty good lately, fast and fun, and mostly dry. I get to the limit of my nerves or of the boat fairly easily now - the ww hull has...
Doug Haines
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Jan 31, 2008
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Hi, Sailing getting up in air easily, steering to controllift. Nose not digging too bad, but rudder develops those drag streams - separation off the foil at...
Doug Haines
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Feb 17, 2008
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G'day, Excellent! Any idea how quick it goes with the hull up? How much wind to get it flying? Have you got a plan for it it goes over? The masts will ...
Rob Denney
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Feb 17, 2008
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It was a little gusty - easterly, 10-15 knots? Speed 11-13 knots. Guessing, GPS not on. Shame about the rudders - they get that separation that you can see...
Doug Haines
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Feb 20, 2008
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Bow burrying is one of my concerns with this design, any one considered if the addition of side lifting strakes would improve this characteristic? drag wise...
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Feb 24, 2008
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How aboue the bow design as on Cheers: http://membres.lycos.fr/ugmarie/zacheers/cheersjpg/rougevinbaville/cheersparrougevinbaville0005.html No extra drag in...
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Feb 24, 2008
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I can't see why bow burying should be a problem. The boat with a high prismatic coeffient and long bows has plenty of hydrostatic lift with a long lever arm...
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Feb 24, 2008
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G'day, I agree with Robert about bows and anti dive plates. My Elementarry rudders don't ventilate at 18 knots, I suspect that Doug's problem is more shaping...
Rob Denney
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Feb 26, 2008
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Hi, Sailing getting up in air easily, steering to controllift. Nose not digging too bad, but rudder develops those drag streams - separation off the foil at...
Doug Haines
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Feb 17, 2008
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Any update on the 60 ft Maine proa? the blog has not been updated for a while ... From: Robert <cateran1949@...> To: harryproa@... ...
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Jan 14, 2008
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Another good reason to shunt MAKING THE CASE FOR BOOM PREVENTERS by CCA Fleet Surgeon The incidence of injury from accidental or premature jibes is unknown but...
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Jan 15, 2008
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Don't Apologise mark, I love what you guys are doing. Any drawings /pictures? I'm curious how you are going to get enough separation top to bottom to support...
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Jan 16, 2008
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G'day, No viewable drawings yet, and the pictures of the setup on my boat don't show much. Seperation is pretty easy as there is plenty of room above and...
Rob Denney
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Jan 16, 2008
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Hi, Do y'all get out on the water? Small boat - rudders - nuisance: up, down, cumbersome tiller extenisons, blades too deep for shallow water not too mention 4...
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