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> > Hmmm. > As a complete outsider who was considering buying the biggest proa I could > get made, I have to admit I am extremely thrown off by this. > I saw you in sail magazine, as I am sure many others did. The website could > have had more videos and inside views. > I am all for sailing something which might be looked upon as a bit kooky, > but when you see this kind of crazy going back and fourth it makes you > wonder if the business will go the way of the dodo bird before your boat is > built. > > I am only offering a suggestion here but I would remove the group link from > the website. > Anyone who joins here immediately sees
that there is massive tension and > that things are not going well. (EVEN IF THAT IS NOT THE ACTUAL CASE) > > I am not going to buy a Harry Proa now, though I was very interested in > seeing more about them. Also the clips off the front and not the entire > ship, and the tiny weenie one going back and fourth... lets see a big one in > full not just from out the bow. > > It's unfortunate that one cannot step outside and see the big picture. > > You want to instill a tremendous amount of confidence when people are > handing over their money. > This is not the way to do it. > Especially for something so unique.
> I will be unsubbing from the group now, but best of luck to all of you... > ×´ ¨) > ¸.·´¸.· ´¨) ¸.·*¨) > *~ Nikki ~*`·.´·.¸¸.·´¨`» > G'day,
Thrown off by what? The lack of videos and some fall out from a personal email being published on the
chat group? You've got to be kidding. If this "threw you off" there is no way you would have been able to put up with the comments of your fellow boaties when you bought a proa.
To address your points. 1) The chat group is a wonderful place to discuss the boats. Everyone is welcome to talk harryproas and sailing generally. The knockers are especially welcome as they make us think of new ways to overcome actual and percieved weaknesses. It will stay linked from the web page. 2) The lack of videos is a function of the cost and hassle of getting them. Jan on Blind Date will be working on that this summer. 3) People can be entirely confident when they hand over their money. The boats are well engineered and sound. Any tension that was in the business has been dissipated by two of the three people leaving. It is now a one man band, with all the pluses and minuses this involves. The business is also sound. It now has near zero
outgoings (web page rent is about all, I do not need to make any money from it except to fund my next iteration of the design) and I have poured heart and soul (and a lot of money) into harryproas for 10 years, so am definitely not going anywhere just as they start to become popular.
Hope this puts your mind at rest. If you do read this, please return and participate in the forum, I would like to discuss this with you some more.
regards, Rob
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