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Re: [harryproa] Re: Springs against Capsize

> used to be an idea called a fuseable cleat, and also earlier blast
> from the 60s systems with pendula and sear, that would trip the
> sheets above certain loads. i think there are two potential lessons
> there. First, while these various systems were seriously proposed,
> nobody added the additional complication or having systems that
> releases under wind load, but hauled in again.

But fuses are used. That is, a length of cord designed to break at the
desired tension and attached (sewn ?) to form a bight in the sheet. When
the wind blows too hard, the fuse breaks and the sheet is eased a metre or
so rather than capsize the boat. Ross Hobson uses these for one, IIRC.

Cheers, Dave




Thu Oct 2, 2003 7:28 pm

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Hi All, below is an extract of a mail I sent to Rob some months ago. Similar ideas seem to be floating in the air recently in the Harryproa group. I know it...
artus_imbert
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Sep 29, 2003
10:26 pm

-Hi-Axel, I think you mised the point about the advantage of the Harry over the Atlantic. Assuming that accommodation is a significant load then you want the ...
Robert
cateran1949
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Sep 29, 2003
11:16 pm

I think you have done some very interesting thinking about this. I would divide it into two general areas: The idea of some kind of spring against capsize....
proaconstrictor
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Sep 30, 2003
8:16 pm

One of the best and most reliable springs is the old leaf spring seen now days only under the rear axle of trucks as most cars have gone to the uni-strut and...
Grona Jr, Robert J.
ppl_rjg
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Sep 30, 2003
8:23 pm

I think you have done some very interesting thinking about this. I would divide it into two general areas: The idea of some kind of spring against capsize....
proaconstrictor
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Sep 30, 2003
8:24 pm

Axel Can you load a sketch of what's proposed please There are many sentiments I agree with in this discussion <Considering capsizing as an event that cannot...
matt_the_jaffa
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Oct 1, 2003
8:10 am

... the ... Hi Robert. I clearly understand the difference between Atlantic and Harryproa, and as many here I guess, the interests of having accomodation ...
artus_imbert
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Oct 1, 2003
10:26 pm

... My ... push ... I wish you are right…. […/…] ... Invention is something else. This is nothing more than an idea, based on no facts. Even if it may...
artus_imbert
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Oct 1, 2003
10:28 pm

... For the sake of argument, I am just assuming your system won't work. As an alternative one could attempt some other mitigation other than leaning the whole...
proaconstrictor
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Oct 2, 2003
9:23 am

Instead of adding the mechanical complexity and cost of springs and hardware to allow the mast to release under load, why not put one of those floats that...
Peter C. King
pckingpcking
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Oct 2, 2003
12:27 pm

... hardware to allow the mast to release under load, why not put one of those floats that looks like a little blimp at the top of the mast? You cannot capsize...
proaconstrictor
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Oct 2, 2003
5:56 pm

... But fuses are used. That is, a length of cord designed to break at the desired tension and attached (sewn ?) to form a bight in the sheet. When the wind...
Dave Howorth
Dave_Howorth
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Oct 2, 2003
7:26 pm

... the ... sheet. When ... metre or ... IIRC. ... Sure they are, but it's not like they are stock on F boats or something. They used to be promoted on the...
proaconstrictor
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Oct 5, 2003
3:35 am

<Anyway, I'm done, since I don't consider any of this primary. BEEEP Wrong Got to disagree (with respect) If the C problem is not solved effectively from the...
matt_the_jaffa
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Oct 2, 2003
7:54 pm

... Well it would be primary if you built a boat that capsized with great regularity, you know a trimaran with no amas. As it's worked out today there isn't a...
proaconstrictor
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Oct 5, 2003
3:49 am

There's one last Reason/Motivation to develop the capsize recoverable Multihull (You can Trust me on this) Logos don't look good upside down. The Corporations...
matt_the_jaffa
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Oct 5, 2003
7:24 am

... I'm not sure I agree. Hard to explain stock car racing, where the cars are always munching up and flipping. I will admit that putting some logos...
proaconstrictor
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Oct 6, 2003
6:45 pm

Hi Peter, The top-of-mast-floats may prevent the mast to go underwater, boat upside down, but this won't prevent people to be ejected either overboard or to be...
artus_imbert
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Oct 7, 2003
9:27 pm

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