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Re: [harryproa] chesapeake harry's

Hello,
 
Thanks for the link,
 
It looks like it can only be used if the rudder is all the way down, when it is partially or fully retracted there is no way for it to rotate, is that correct ?  This would not work for me.  When in shallow water I would want to partially retract rudder and still be able to use it for steering up creak under power or for sailing in shallow water.  The original ruder design with rudder on side of LW hull I like since it can be partially retracted and still used, but my only concern is the limited 270 degree movement , is this a real problem or would you get use to it ?
 
What is the current design for rudder for 12 M Harryproa ?
 
 
Happy sailing
George Kuck
Chestertown, Md.
 
 

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, arttuheinonen@... <arttuheinonen@...> wrote:

From: arttuheinonen@... <arttuheinonen@...>
Subject: Re: [harryproa] chesapeake harry's
To: harryproa@...
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:11 PM

Hi,

Here you will find pictures:

http://prao. guillard. free.fr/

Regards,

Arttu

> Hello,
> Can you elaborate a little on the rudder.  I am not familier with the
French proa.
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> Thanks
> George Kuck
> Chestertown, Md.
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> --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Rudolf vd Brug <rpvdb@freeler. nl> wrote:
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> From: Rudolf vd Brug <rpvdb@freeler. nl>
> Subject: Re: [harryproa] chesapeake harry's
> To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 1:55 PM
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> The in hull rudders on Ono are much the same as the ones on the French
proa Des jours meilleurs.
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> Rudolf
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doug Haines
> To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:00 PM
> Subject: [harryproa] chesapeake harry's
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> Hi george and gardner,
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> like to know how the in hull rudders are set up. Rudolf, Rob.
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> --- On Thu, 4/6/09, George Kuck <chesapeake410@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: George Kuck <chesapeake410@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Mast stepping on Arttu's boat
> To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 9:46 PM
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> Hello Arttu,
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> Congratulatins on the launch of your new boat ! 
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> I am considering building a 12 m Harry and would be vary interested in
seeing more pictures of your finished boat and the building and stepping
of the mast.  I hope you can post some pictures that you may have and
get some of the boat sailing.  Please let use know how it sails and your
experience with it when you get your sails. 
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> I would like to hear more from other Harryproa owners of there sailing
experience as I am still wavering between weather to build a Harryproa
or a more conventional catamaran such as a Shuttle 28 or 31, or the new
F-32.  The F-32 is currently my last choice as I have built two
trimarans already and would like something different but I have not
ruled it out..
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> Happy sailing,
> George Kuck
> Chestertown, Md.    
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> --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
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> From: Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk>
> Subject: [harryproa] Re: Mast stepping on Arttu's boat
> To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 4:13 AM
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> Congratulations to Arttu and Rudolf. I wish you good sailing,
> Robert--- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, "Rudolf vd Brug"
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> > Last Sunday I returned home from Finland where I worked on Arttu's
Visionarry, Ono .
> > Having built his mast and boom he asked me to glue the mast bearings
in the lw hull, and to rig and step the mast on the boat.
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> > The work on the bearings was pretty straight forward as all parts
were prefabricated in my workshop and sent over with the mast and boom.
Evenso with putting mast and boom together and rigging it the days flew
past. Always lots of small jobs to do you seem to forget about before
and once done you don't remember them.
> > Arttu also had a long list of small things to be done, so we didin't
get bored.
> > Launching and stepping the mast went smoothly and then all of a
sudden it was a sailing boat. Without sails though as the sailmaker was
behind schedule and so they hadn't yet arrived. That was a pity as I
really would have liked to sail this boat.
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> > Ono has an enclosed bridge deck cabin where BD has the covered cockpit.
> > So the deck plan looks much like Rare Bird exept for the standing
height in the cabin which on Arttu's boat is 1.65 m as on BD.
> > Also there are cassette type rudders in the lw hull. They work well
but I noticed their smaller size (1.2 m deep against 2 m on BD) when
maneouvering. We will have to wait reports from Arttu on the rudder size
when sailing.
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> > The two Yamaha outboards are very good for doing the slow speed
maneouvering to get the boat tied up to the jetty.
> > The rig on Ono is the same as on BD with a stiffer mast then the
original specs. It only differs in that it has running backstays so it
will be able to keep a straight jib luff in a bit of a blow.
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> > Arttu, I wish you happy sailing, thanks for your hospitality and the
opportunity to have a look around your beautifull country.
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Yes we are close but Gardner has house on west shore and I am on east shore farther north, abought a two hour sail with good wind (I think it's 15or 20 NM by...
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Hi, Yes, we are close by continental terms, but have only met once when George showed me how to do this stuff. I will be building my boat in a barn in York,...
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Hi Doug, The in hull rudders on Ono are much the same as the ones on the French proa Des jours meilleurs. Rudolf ... From: Doug Haines To:...
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Hello, Can you elaborate a little on the rudder.  I am not familier with the French proa.   Thanks George Kuck Chestertown, Md. ... From: Rudolf vd Brug...
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Hi, Here you will find pictures: http://prao.guillard.free.fr/ Regards, Arttu ... French proa. ... proa Des jours meilleurs. ... seeing more pictures of your...
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Hello,   Thanks for the link,   It looks like it can only be used if the rudder is all the way down, when it is partially or fully retracted there is no way...
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-I t is possible to have this type of rudder rotate when partly lifted if it slots into a rotatable drum. This is similar to the earlist Harrys. Th problems of...
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Hi, You are right, steering only when fully down. 270 deg movement is not a problem, with the side mounted rudders you see it turning and it is perfectly...
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