Hi, I would certainly be interested in hulls from moulds ( visionary),
especially foam sandwich!. I know wood is an excellent mat'l but it is labor
intensive and drives up the labour costs . Lastly, moulded hulls will get you
sailing a lot faster and isn't that where we want to be?
Cheers Peter.
PS we still have to see one of these sail!
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From: colcampey
To: harryproa@...
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:14 PM
Subject: [harryproa] Moulds
Hi all,
How many list members would be interested in having hulls, for any of
the Harryproas, produced from a mould ( That's mold for our American
brethren ) to get a head start in the buiding of their boat? If there
are enough then the cost of the fairest, lightest hull becomes less
than a one-off hull, covering the cost of the mo(u)ld as well.
I think we all have our own idea's (needs) for our own boat, but if you think about it, if a couple of the harry range of boats were moulded by mixing and...
Hi, I would certainly be interested in hulls from moulds ( visionary), especially foam sandwich!. I know wood is an excellent mat'l but it is labor intensive...
G'day, We have a relatively low cost technique for building foam/epoxy hulls (painted post mould) using cheap female moulds. It is a technique I used on W...
G'day, I also like the look of wood, but have a problem with sanding it to get it fair! The proposed technique uses a strip planked mould (probably mdf as it ...
G'day, With our hull shapes, it may be feasible to use the same moulds for various size boats. For example, an 18m/60' hull 2m/6'8" wide could have near flat...
G'day, The extra weight of a non cored hull will be significant, particularly in the smaller boats. A gel coat finish is not envisaged as it requires a huge...
Me too! Elementarry for starters. I might need a custom ww hull though, to accommodate those ideas we were discussing offlist, Rob. Andrew ... From: Grona Jr,...
Andrew Dickson
andrew@...
Nov 12, 2003 3:47 am
Hi Rob Any idea of a rough price for such an Elementarry, assuming several orders to defray mould costs etc.? Enjoy Jim Baltaxe ITS Desktop Support Victoria...
Hi Andrew Could I be so bold as to ask you what some of those offline ideas might be? I'm also very interested in an Elementarry with a camping layout. I sort...
Around here the usual reason for building small molded boats is to imediately launch off into ever larger sizes, it is rarely commercial to build small ones...
Hi Jim, For sure, no probs. I really want a small boat to go camp-cruising on, and my background in kayak expeditioning gives me the desire to: - make sails...
Andrew Dickson
andrew@...
Nov 13, 2003 1:29 am
G'day, Not at the moment. All a bit chicken and egg, unfortunately. We need the orders to pay for the moulds, but can't quote prices till we have built a ...
G'day, Not a pest at all. I appreciate any comments, from any source (even you, Fritz :-). The camping layout we discussed had telescoping beams operated by...
G'day, A thought provoking letter. Thanks. The reasons for building a small one are 1) The moulding technique is new. We need to know what is involved before...
I'm not sure that testing ideas on the smaller proa means they will scale up all that well on a larger one. To take your Hobie example the steering system on...
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at but if I want to build some folding beams for Rob and for myself (and for anyone else awho may want them)...
Folding beams would make a hell of a difference to how often people would get sailing. I don't see what the scaling problems are in terms of stress and strain....
... going ... power. ... have ... materials ... at ... at ... of ... small proa, is handy because i can establish production time which doesn't always scale in...
The molds I'm talking about are the molds for hulls, not beams. Anything anyone wants to do that advances the craft on their own is fine by me. Anything that...
... I would have agreed with you completely on this point until I started to fair my 5m strip plank and plywood proa. I love working in strip plank and plywood...
I have a 2 "Shark" cats, 20ft, ply decks, fold down the centerline, we never sail them because of how difficult they are to unfold and setup. We even...
I tend to agree about the viability locally but expensive in freight for further afield. I'd certainly consider a mould 700km away for a bigger boat but would...
Hi Rob What you say makes a great deal of sense and is very encouraging. Let's break the Chicken & Egg cycle and at least pick a small design to work on. If...
G'day, Forgot to mention. No problem with alloy beams (apart from weight, corrosion and fatigue ;-), although they would need to be built up with bog on the...
G'day, Thanks. Telescoping beams are almost as simple to build as demountable beams, but have the advantage of keeping usable trampoline space at trailerable...
G,day Rob & all, beams aren't quite ready yet but the mould will be finished tomorow and first half beam made on the weekend ready for destruction next week....
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