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Re: Sail Rig Options

I talked with the owner, it has just 10 hours sailing. Got a 25
horse OB on it to be used as a both a launch and a sailboat.
Sails nice but not enough experience to tell. Doesn't steer with
the rudders while motoring, strictly wheel to OB. Wheel was put
inside and a cab top fashioned to facilitate launch use in mixed
weather. The owner is working on a better steering arrangement
to improve switching rudder control after a shunt. No intention of
trying to use both rudders simultaneously.

Bugs maybe, but too early to tell. Lets just say it hauls nicely with
a 25 horse. He is looking for those interested in charter, season
is 15 may - 15 sept. See his web site: http://www.proasail.com

Now is not good sailing time in Rockland Maine, 2 feet of snow.
You can contact the owner direct through his website for
specifics or charter info. He is looking for all of you who want to
give proa's a try but can't afford a US to Australia air fare !

Regards,

JT

--- In harryproa@..., "Peter MacLean"
<landpmaclean@n...> wrote:
> I guess you could classify me as a mass lurker, I would prefer
to think of myself as a patient man, more interested in
construction and seeing a visonarry sailing and drawing
conclusions and discussion from those details. I have not heard
anything on the Maine Proa - was it launched?,how it sails?,
bugs to be worked out etc.
>
> However, if skyblue thinking, I might be tempted to think about
a harryproa sailing using the Coanda Effect, or the Magnus Effect
turning a propeller, not only powering the boat but charging up a
battery bank to run those Soloeman E motors when the wind
dies. I have included a primer for the groups perusal.
>
> http://www.howstuffworks.com/airplane4.htm
>
> Some one may do it! Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jjtctaylor
> To: harryproa@...
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:32 PM
> Subject: [harryproa] Sail Rig Options
>
>
> To all of you,
>
> Me thinks this forum has gone to sleep..........Time to stir the
> opinion juices ! Or are we "mass" lurking ?
>
> The next Visionarry in the planning stages has need of
sufficient
> sail area to handle the anticipated displacement of about 11,
> 000 pounds. However, there is one major constraint. The
water
> to mast top height cannot exceed 64 feet. The limitation is a
> requirement for passage on the US East Coast Intracoastal
> Water Way (ICW).
>
> The US Coast Guard in cooperation with the Department of
> Transportation are replacing the bridges along the 1059 mile
> route as traffic patterns dictate, and have admistratively set
Mean
> High Tide water to bridge clearance of 65 ft.
>
> So based upon the Balestron rig in the current Visionarry, sail
> area is 896 sq ft. 80% roach at the maximum elevation. Rob
> suggested to go to 100% roach and we are at about 970 sq ft.
>
> Based upon the Bruce numbers that get's us close to 1.4 or
1.5.
> That is adequate but not ideal. Certainly the visionarry in
> construction would perform better (much less displacement).
I
> estimate we'll need about 1200 sq ft to really perform well in
light
> winds. Most sailing is done in 5-15 knots so why not target
for
> good light air speed ?
>
> Rob & I have kicked around tilting masts, gunter rigs,
> telescoping ideas. My latest pitch was wing sails like
Dynawing
> (DynaRig).
>
> I prefer to avoid multimasts to keep it simple, so do we have
> ideas out there ? Thrill seekers want to juice up their own
rigs,
> "Elementary" dreamers, others with a need for speed that I
can
> reapply to pump up this Visionarry with a height limit ?
>
> Input appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> JT
>
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I guess you could classify me as a mass lurker, I would prefer to think of myself as a patient man, more interested in construction and seeing a visonarry...
Peter MacLean
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Dec 7, 2003
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I talked with the owner, it has just 10 hours sailing. Got a 25 horse OB on it to be used as a both a launch and a sailboat. Sails nice but not enough...
jjtctaylor
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Dec 9, 2003
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G'day, Just as it got interesting (ie I was having problems sorting out how it would all work), I broke my achilles tendon, and got a sponsorship deal which...
Rob Denney
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Dec 9, 2003
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G'day, Spitfire was built, no expense spared and sailed maybe 5 times. Depending who you spoke to, it got to 30 knots in not much breeze, tacked on it's foils...
Rob Denney
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Dec 10, 2003
5:43 am

... Depending ... it's ... rig ... was sent to ... I can understand that. It would be nice and comfortable in a chop but the thought of 30-40knots in ocean...
Robert
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Dec 11, 2003
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... sitting in ... over a grand ... Is that for real. ... hydrofoils as ... dinghy) ... with a ... completely open, ... wouild ... long with ... know, they ......
Robert
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Dec 11, 2003
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G'day, No idea if the price is correct or not, but it has been sitting there for 6 months, nobody looks like sailing it this year, so maybe. Give Brett a ...
rob denney
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Dec 12, 2003
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I am starting to feel that it doesn't make much difference, though there is probably a bit of horses for courses. My suspicion that the course is probably...
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Dec 14, 2003
9:49 pm

The differences in rig are born out of different requirements from the boats in my opinion. The only thing these boats have in common is that they all use the...
Tony Richardson
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Dec 12, 2003
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G'day, There is noy much point having a wind mast without the boom rotating independantly. It is actually easier to build than locking them together. We do...
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Dec 15, 2003
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