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1630
Did some rough calculations on the Harryproas stability at 90 degrees. Empty, a Harry is stable on its side but not by a large margin. Probably the resistance...
Robert
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Feb 7, 2006
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1631
Hi Rob I do not have experience with the bouy at the top mast but I wonder how much a cleated sail in the water acts as a fulcrum to force the mast to go under...
carlos Solanilla
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Feb 7, 2006
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Hi Carlos, My own experience with lots of capsizes in small boats and windsurfers is that the sail damps the initial rotation and then if you don't uncleat you...
Robert
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Feb 7, 2006
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G'day, Went sailing on Sunday in Elementarry to assess una rigs vs schooners. 15 knots of breeze, solo, with 11 sqm/118 sq' of sail. This is half a Tornado...
Rob Denney
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Feb 7, 2006
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Hi Rob, Did you just use one of the schooner's rigs in a new central hole? Did you have to restrain the forward rudder or just ignore it? Did you move aft to...
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Feb 7, 2006
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G'day, Hi Rob Did you just use one of the schooner's rigs in a new central hole? Yes Did you have to restrain the forward rudder or just ignore it? Initially I...
Rob Denney
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Feb 7, 2006
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... Brian Phipps does it successfully with Darts, AFAIK. But a standard Dart will not normally turtle immediately anyway. ... Don't forget that in strong winds...
Dave Howorth
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Feb 7, 2006
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I agree. Beyond the lower righting moment when reefed, buoyant sails would also be less useful once you uncleat the sheet in order to right the boat, allowing...
Mike Crawford
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Feb 7, 2006
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So, Mike, what if a mast head flotation system could be built that actually enhanced the anti-capsize function while having a positive gain on aerodynamics?...
Chris Ostlind
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Feb 7, 2006
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What about preventing the capsize with a device attached to the ama? Let's say a parachute hung on the side of the ama in a bottomless square box in such a...
carlos Solanilla
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Feb 7, 2006
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<<what if a mast head flotation system could be built that actually enhanced the anti-capsize function while having a positive gain on aerodynamics? Would that...
Mike Crawford
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Feb 7, 2006
11:20 pm
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OK, Mike... and everybody else who may have an opinion on this. Located in the Files section is a folder titled End Plate Sail where I have put a collection of...
Chris Ostlind
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Feb 7, 2006
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Rob, Is it possible that the decreased resistance by lifting the forward blade and the raking forward of the rear could contribute to this? regards, Robert ......
Robert
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Feb 7, 2006
11:58 pm
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Oh, I forgot... The full treatment to the sail also includes a boom like you would see on the really spendy, mega-yachts where there is a decided wingish,...
Chris Ostlind
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Feb 7, 2006
11:59 pm
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An interesting idea, alltogether. Bouyant panels and endpieces. I will discuss this with a sailmaker. IŽll relay his opiinion. Thanks, Peter ... like you...
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Feb 8, 2006
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Check out this website for research on capsize prevention with, naturally the designers thoughts on why good there product is, Robert...
Robert
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Feb 8, 2006
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-In -http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kssboat/ there are a series of well referenced posts on the problems of capsize after a post by Derek Kelsal about a...
Robert
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Feb 8, 2006
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1647
It seems a natural progression is a single centreboard with fore and aft but not lateral symmetry that can be pivoted in case of collision or partly raised....
Robert
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Feb 8, 2006
2:39 am
1648
G'day, I sailed with both rigs and one rudder, still felt like it was pushing a lot more water than with the single rig. Not sure about the rake. The new...
Rob Denney
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Feb 8, 2006
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That's about as good a masthead flotation system as one could imagine. Nice design, pretty aerodynamic, and it doesn't look like the hobie "training wheel"...
Mike Crawford
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Feb 9, 2006
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I'm intrigued. Trying to thnk of all the parameters and can't really think of any that make sense. Weight. Easy to check by adjusting weight but doesn't seem...
Robert
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Feb 9, 2006
5:55 am
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Note , if you are careful with the weight distribution in the ww hull with batteries and water storage you can just bring it back the other way, but it is...
Robert
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Feb 9, 2006
6:03 am
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G'day, The natural progression I see is to a single water foil doing both leeway prevention and steering. 3 foils is a lot more work and drag, plus more...
Rob Denney
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Feb 9, 2006
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G'day, Agree with your comments except for the mast angle. I suspect it will be pretty close to 90 as the lee hull will be partially in the water. As long...
Rob Denney
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Feb 9, 2006
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G'day, Agree it is a bit peculiar. Best I can come up with is the reduced weight. 31 kgs (including the rudder) is significant on a 130 kg boat. COE is near...
Rob Denney
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Feb 9, 2006
9:25 am
1655
... leeway prevention and steering. 3 foils is a lot more work and drag, plus more complex to use. ... interesting to see on the raked forward wing mast! ... ...
Robert
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Feb 9, 2006
12:17 pm
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--If you can do it, I remember talking to Loch Crowther many years ago as the natural progression ofthe centre board and the rudder finally meeting with the...
Robert
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Feb 9, 2006
12:23 pm
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-my calculations are in the order of 3-5 degrees and have tried to imagine the circumstances where the wind wave would work together. It would be coming off...
Robert
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Feb 9, 2006
12:33 pm
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-been thinking of a possible speed hump. Once the bow depresses, the frontal area and surface area in the bow the increases, increasing drag and causing...
Robert
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Feb 9, 2006
1:18 pm
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Nothing else up my sleeve. The boat sails well with either one or two sails and only one rudder, although rudder area seems a little small with 2 rigs. The...
Rob Denney
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Feb 9, 2006
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