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4590
Carole was out sailing near the Gold Coast (South of Brisbane Qld Australia) and saw a large harry proa sailing nicely in 25 knots of breeze. Her brother who...
Robert
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Nov 1, 2008
10:37 am
4591
G'day, Wonderful news, particularly as I am going to Brisbane in December to sail on it. Hopefully Col will send us a report on the sail up. Don't suppose...
Rob Denney
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Nov 1, 2008
11:19 am
4592
A new species discovered! Rarely found in the wild, much sought after by bird watchers. ... From: Rob Denney <harryproa@...> Subject: Re: [harryproa]...
Doug Haines
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Nov 1, 2008
11:27 am
4593
Hi All,   Really enjoying Rob's way of doing Harriette - so far really easy and quick. Still behind him but trying to catch up.   Doug ... From: Doug Haines...
Doug Haines
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Nov 3, 2008
8:22 am
4594
Hello Rob,Doug and gang.   What is "Rob's way of doing Harriette" ?   I have just completed ( 4' x 22' ) resin infusion table and will be making panels for...
George Kuck
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Nov 3, 2008
2:05 pm
4595
Hi, I have been wondering about the use of a leeboard on a harryproa. I know that Rob tried it on one of the small prototypes and had problems. I was wondering...
gardnerpomper
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Nov 3, 2008
2:24 pm
4596
Hi, I' ve been thinking about using a leeboard on a HP too. We have a lot of boats with leeboards here in the Netherlands, and I have some experience with...
Rudolf vd Brug
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Nov 3, 2008
9:32 pm
4597
My thought on the rudders was that if they are fairly small, it would be easy enough to have them mounted directly below the beams, near the lee hull, with a...
Gardner Pomper
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Nov 3, 2008
10:15 pm
4598
Hello    I am not realy keen on the idea of a leeboard but if I did want one I would think of it more as a supplement to the oversized rudders which might be...
George Kuck
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Nov 3, 2008
11:21 pm
4599
its like the kss but withouot any cuts to get the sheets to bend around. same flat sheet folded up to make the hull then the deck flat bits go ont the top. ...
Doug Haines
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Nov 3, 2008
11:50 pm
4600
Well, I plan on having Rob do the design for me too, but one of the things I really like about this forum is how people explore different options. All designs...
Gardner Pomper
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Nov 4, 2008
12:14 am
4601
Hello,   Yes, a few other reasons not to use leeboard.  It would get in way when docking or raft up to other boats, the aesthetics and clean lines of boat,...
George Kuck
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Nov 4, 2008
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4602
Hello Doug,   It sounds like you are bending with only one side of core glassed, not quit what I was thinking of.  Hope you can get some pictures posted...
George Kuck
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Nov 4, 2008
1:04 am
4603
Gardner, U, the predecessor to the current harry design, had a leeboard and rudders, but Rob has since changed his design. A partial description is here: ...
Mike Crawford
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Nov 4, 2008
2:10 am
4604
-Much of the sheet can be glassed both sides. It is only round the bilges there is much curvature Robert-- In harryproa@..., George Kuck ... not...
Robert
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Nov 4, 2008
4:44 am
4605
yeah that's right one side is glasseed and hopfully it should still bend alright when I try to do that...slowly. The mid (bilge that takes the bottom curve is...
Doug Haines
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Nov 4, 2008
6:54 am
4606
Both sides of the flat sides are glassed on the flat table, and the out side side of the bige is glassed flat on th etable.. The inside of the bilge is glassed...
Doug Haines
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Nov 4, 2008
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4607
Mike, Thanks for finding those posts. I remember reading them (I believe they were responses to other posts I started <blush> ) but I couldnt find them. At the...
Gardner Pomper
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Nov 4, 2008
3:30 pm
4608
Hi, Usually a leeboard is supported by a piece of wood a bit above the waterline to keep it vertical or whatever angle the designer wants it to. Also this...
Rudolf vd Brug
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Nov 4, 2008
8:21 pm
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G'day, Great threads, guys. Everytime I have something to say, someone beats me to it! Rare Birds rudders are 1.6m/64" deep x 500mm/20" wide. This is 1.8 sq ...
Rob Denney
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Nov 5, 2008
12:30 pm
4610
Another rudder question.. do the fore and aft rudders turn together, or in opposite directions? By this I mean, are the rudder blades always parallel to each...
Gardner Pomper
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Nov 5, 2008
4:20 pm
4611
The rudders on BD can be disconnected. When they are linked together they work in opposite direction, if the front goes left the aft goes right thus the boat...
Rudolf vd Brug
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Nov 5, 2008
5:48 pm
4612
That is VERY interesting. So, if I understand correctly, the normal operation of the boat is really just one rudder at a time. You don't link them except for...
Gardner Pomper
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Nov 5, 2008
6:11 pm
4613
We have the steering lines running through a clutch to be able to use one a leave the other one in fore and aft position. The clutch has a thin line tied to it...
Rudolf vd Brug
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Nov 5, 2008
6:58 pm
4614
By asymmetric I guess that we could ask about having asymetric hulls not that I'd want to build one, but there wwuld be advantage in leeway resistance. Doug ...
Doug Haines
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Nov 6, 2008
5:17 am
4615
http://www.anne-quemere.com/indexgb.php Does anyone know anymore about this? Apparently this will be her second ocean crossing with a kite (after 2 rowing). ...
Herb Desson
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Nov 6, 2008
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4616
I once owned a one-tonne IOR racing boat from the 1970s, from a designer named Carter. He was known for his swing keels. We had 7000 lbs of lead that gave us a...
Gardner Pomper
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Nov 6, 2008
3:00 pm
4617
I'd probably stick with the standard hull or beam-mounted rudders. Yes, they have a lot of force on them, but one can design for such force. It's just some...
Mike Crawford
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Nov 6, 2008
3:47 pm
4618
Gardner, All of us completely underestimate the rudder forces. No leeboards or other restriction to maintain direction except for hull shape and rudder make a...
jjtctaylor
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Nov 6, 2008
3:56 pm
4619
Hello Gardner,   When the rudder swings back the force on the steering control will increase considerably but if you have rudder blade that can be raised...
George Kuck
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Nov 6, 2008
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