----- Original Message -----

From: mark.ellery@...

To: leylandp76@...

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:26 PM

Subject: RE: [leylandp76] rare p76 for sale on ebay

I would be interested in what James knows re the experimental status of this
car. I am not aware of the use of the x in this manner nor what it
signifies??????

Mark Ellery

-----Original Message-----
From: leylandp76@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:leylandp76@yahoogroups.com.au]
On Behalf Of andrew kloot
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 5:47 PM
To: leylandp76@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [leylandp76] rare p76 for sale on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Leyland-P76-Executive-V8-Auto-Duel-Fuel_W0QQitemZ1202
89192523QQihZ002QQcategoryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

found this beauty on ebay any body know the car? looks pretty cheap being a
factory experimental car

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My project car MTRV8R was on a dyno recently and was doing about 135kW
at the rear wheels. That's about the same as a Brock 5litre does
standard.

Its a long way off the goal of 300Hp I had for the motor, but
apparently it is caused by my set up being off. The cam is too mild
(for the extensive manifold and flow improvements) and causes
"overfilling" the cylinder... a problem I never knew existed.

2008/7/31 James Hobbs <another300zx@...>:
>
> Thanks mate i was just looking for something to compare mine to as im
> aiming for 300HP @ the wheels and a 12 second pass. once i have got
> there i will post a copy of my Dyno sheet on here.
> I had it Dyno'd running straight gas through a gas research carby it
> would die off at 4500rpm as the gas carb was at its limit as i needed
> 2 gas carbies. my cam starts at 3300rpm and goes to 6400rpm so i cant
> wait to get it to its power curve on petrol. all i got was 165.1 Rwhp
> and 660lb torque.

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QitemZ170240824488QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116

Copy below into your browser its ebay. $319.90 USD +POSTAGE


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QitemZ170240824488QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116



--- In leylandp76@..., "michael clarke" <mclarke18@...>
wrote:
>
> Why are they good james, where do you buy them and for how much???  Mick
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: leylandp76@...
[mailto:leylandp76@...]
> On Behalf Of James Mentiplay
> Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 8:37 PM
> To: leylandp76@...
> Subject: [leylandp76] Re: Buick Nailhead MSD #8524 Dizzy
>
>
>
> The MSD distributor that fits the P76 V8 is model number 8548 to suit
> the Buick 215.
>
> I have bought 3 of these from the U.S recently, and are an excellent
> purchase.
>
> James Mentiplay
>
> --- In leylandp76@yahoogro <mailto:leylandp76%40yahoogroups.com.au>
> ups.com.au, "James Hobbs" <another300zx@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys a couple of months back some one off this forum sent me a
> > message saying that the Buick Nail Head's MSD distributor (#8524) will
> > fit the Leyland V8.
> > I was just trying to find that person again so i could find out just
> > to be sure that it does fit and that someone has done this swap.
> > Im just trying to find out before i go and buy one from the states and
> > it does not fit.
> >
> > On a different note does anyone know the time of the quickest Leyland
> > down the quarter mile???
> > Or the most horse power achieved still using the Leylands V8?
> > Regards James Hobbs
> >
>

Thanks mate i was just looking for something to compare mine to as im
aiming for 300HP @ the wheels and a 12 second pass. once i have got
there i will post a copy of my Dyno sheet on here.
I had it Dyno'd running straight gas through a gas research carby it
would die off at 4500rpm as the gas carb was at its limit as i needed
2 gas carbies. my cam starts at 3300rpm and goes to 6400rpm so i cant
wait to get it to its power curve on petrol. all i got was 165.1 Rwhp
and 660lb torque.
I have upgraded the extractors,exhaust system,cooling system,the oil
supply and rebuilt the drive line and changed the diff gears from the
standard 2.92 ratio so now all i have to do is upgrade the ignition
again as it already runs and electronic (BITSA) Distributor. oh and
the carby is a #14054 Edelbrock 600cfm unit. and im so pleased i
finally got around to buying some new rims for the old girl 18x8.5
really fills the guards now. well thanks for the quick reply's
and thanks ill start looking for the correct part number #8548.

My engine builder tells me that the P76 V8 is capable of 280bhp with
a 4bbl carb, some head work, bigger valves, cam, extractors etc using
a 5,500rpm redline. More rpm would produce more hp but the bottom end
of the P76 V8 is not suitable for reliable high revs without
reinforcing the bottom end with a girdle etc. Certainly more hp is
achievable but at the expense of drivability.


--- In leylandp76@..., <mark.ellery@...> wrote:
>
> Hi James
>
> Re quickest time down the quarter using a Leyland V8 in a P76 I do
not know
> but in non standard applications some very quick times have been
set both
> here and in NZ.  Re horse power I have been told of figures on a
dyno of
> approx 425 with late model fuel injection systems and other mods
but can not
> confirm them.  In standard carb and points configuration strong
performers
> in the range of 300 to 320 have been claimed by people but I can
not confirm
> them either.
>
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leylandp76@...
[mailto:leylandp76@...]
> On Behalf Of James Mentiplay
> Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 8:37 PM
> To: leylandp76@...
> Subject: [leylandp76] Re: Buick Nailhead MSD #8524 Dizzy
>
> The MSD distributor that fits the P76 V8 is model number 8548 to
suit the
> Buick 215.
>
> I have bought 3 of these from the U.S recently, and are an excellent
> purchase.
>
> James Mentiplay
>
>
>
> --- In leylandp76@..., "James Hobbs" <another300zx@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys a couple of months back some one off this forum sent me a
> > message saying that the Buick Nail Head's MSD distributor (#8524)
will
> > fit the Leyland V8.
> > I was just trying to find that person again so i could find out
just
> > to be sure that it does fit and that someone  has done this swap.
> > Im just trying to find out before i go and buy one from the
states and
> > it does not fit.
> >
> > On a different note does anyone know the time of the quickest
Leyland
> > down the quarter mile???
> > Or the most horse power achieved still using the Leylands V8?
> > Regards James Hobbs
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo!7 Groups Links
>

http://cars2.ebay.com.au/Austin-Vanden-Plas_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ250277162590


couldnt be to many of these in the country

----- Original Message -----

From: michael clarke

To: leylandp76@...

Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:26 PM

Subject: RE: [leylandp76] rare p76 for sale on ebay

Andrew its  a SA car owned by a member of your club I’m sure you know it. Nice straight car good for resto/tidy up.  Mick

---

From: leylandp76@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:leylandp76@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of andrew kloot
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 5:47 PM
To: leylandp76@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [leylandp76] rare p76 for sale on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Leyland-P76-Executive-V8-Auto-Duel-Fuel_W0QQitemZ120289192523QQihZ002QQcategoryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

found this beauty on ebay any body know the car? looks pretty cheap
being a factory experimental car

I would be interested in what James knows re the experimental status of this
car.  I am not aware of the use of the x in this manner nor what it
signifies??????


Mark Ellery

-----Original Message-----
From: leylandp76@... [mailto:leylandp76@...]
On Behalf Of andrew kloot
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 5:47 PM
To: leylandp76@...
Subject: [leylandp76] rare p76 for sale on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Leyland-P76-Executive-V8-Auto-Duel-Fuel_W0QQitemZ1202
89192523QQihZ002QQcategoryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

found this beauty on ebay any body know the car? looks pretty cheap being a
factory experimental car


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Yahoo!7 Groups Links

Hi James

Re quickest time down the quarter using a Leyland V8 in a P76 I do not know
but in non standard applications some very quick times have been set both
here and in NZ.  Re horse power I have been told of figures on a dyno of
approx 425 with late model fuel injection systems and other mods but can not
confirm them.  In standard carb and points configuration strong performers
in the range of 300 to 320 have been claimed by people but I can not confirm
them either.


Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: leylandp76@... [mailto:leylandp76@...]
On Behalf Of James Mentiplay
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 8:37 PM
To: leylandp76@...
Subject: [leylandp76] Re: Buick Nailhead MSD #8524 Dizzy

The MSD distributor that fits the P76 V8 is model number 8548 to suit the
Buick 215.

I have bought 3 of these from the U.S recently, and are an excellent
purchase.

James Mentiplay



--- In leylandp76@..., "James Hobbs" <another300zx@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi guys a couple of months back some one off this forum sent me a
> message saying that the Buick Nail Head's MSD distributor (#8524) will
> fit the Leyland V8.
> I was just trying to find that person again so i could find out just
> to be sure that it does fit and that someone  has done this swap.
> Im just trying to find out before i go and buy one from the states and
> it does not fit.
>
> On a different note does anyone know the time of the quickest Leyland
> down the quarter mile???
> Or the most horse power achieved still using the Leylands V8?
> Regards James Hobbs
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo!7 Groups Links

The MSD distributor that fits the P76 V8 is model number 8548 to suit
the Buick 215.

I have bought 3 of these from the U.S recently, and are an excellent
purchase.

James Mentiplay



--- In leylandp76@..., "James Hobbs" <another300zx@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi guys a couple of months back some one off this forum sent me a
> message saying that the Buick Nail Head's MSD distributor (#8524) will
> fit the Leyland V8.
> I was just trying to find that person again so i could find out just
> to be sure that it does fit and that someone  has done this swap.
> Im just trying to find out before i go and buy one from the states and
> it does not fit.
>
> On a different note does anyone know the time of the quickest Leyland
> down the quarter mile???
> Or the most horse power achieved still using the Leylands V8?
> Regards James Hobbs
>

Hi guys a couple of months back some one off this forum sent me a
message saying that the Buick Nail Head's MSD distributor (#8524) will
fit the Leyland V8.
I was just trying to find that person again so i could find out just
to be sure that it does fit and that someone  has done this swap.
Im just trying to find out before i go and buy one from the states and
it does not fit.

On a different note does anyone know the time of the quickest Leyland
down the quarter mile???
Or the most horse power achieved still using the Leylands V8?
Regards James Hobbs

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Leyland-P76-Executive-V8-Auto-Duel-Fuel_W0QQitemZ12028919\
2523QQihZ002QQcategoryZ35227QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

found this beauty on ebay any body know the car? looks pretty cheap
being a factory experimental car

Further to my inaccurate post, that should read that I misread yours, re
forums, I prefer they Yahoo Group.


ME

-----Original Message-----
From: leylandp76@... [mailto:leylandp76@...]
On Behalf Of mark.ellery@...
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 5:10 PM
To: leylandp76@...
Subject: RE: [leylandp76] Re: Internet Forums

I think you have miss understood the format in which the word was used.


ME

-----Original Message-----
From: leylandp76@... [mailto:leylandp76@...]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spencer
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 2:22 PM
To: leylandp76@...
Subject: [leylandp76] Re: Internet Forums

Great to see we are discussing forums again, please feel free to use the
other one, as I have links off the web site to both.


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I think you have miss understood the format in which the word was used.


ME

-----Original Message-----
From: leylandp76@... [mailto:leylandp76@...]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spencer
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2008 2:22 PM
To: leylandp76@...
Subject: [leylandp76] Re: Internet Forums

Great to see we are discussing forums again, please feel free to use the
other one, as I have links off the web site to both.

Great to see we are discussing forums again, please feel free to use
the other one, as I have links off the web site to both.
http://www.leylandp76.com/nationalclubs.html
Personnally I find the other forum style difficult and hard to use.
I have just joined the Ford  forum for information on how to set the
code for the radio. (another story)Simliar style very cluttered.
This site is to make it simple to tell everyone about what you are
doing in your club, with your car, asking for advice and if someone
talks about a subject that is connected like emisions but not really
involving the P76 then point them to the appropiate forum.
I was interested in knowing more about emision trading.
So don't knock questions give advice to help and let get back to
answering my power steering question and I am sure other have other
things they need to know.
Cheers
Adrian

--- In leylandp76@..., "John Ernst" <jaernst@...>
wrote:
>
> Steve can't agree with pulling posts it just highlights once again
> the need to upgrade the style of forum, just because you and many
> others (including myself) don't think it is appropriate for this
> forum shouldn't give any moderator the right to not allow it as it
> does violate the policy of having this forum it is not rude, sexist
> derogaortory or any of the other things that would justify not
> having this.  You are suggesting censorship based on disintrest in
> the topic, that would be the thin edge of the wedge.  If for
example
> we had a forum whereby there was an area to discuss off-topic items
> this whole thing wouldn't be a problem.  We have a new committee at
> the Victorian P76 Club and I will certainly be bringing up this
> topic again to see if we can move to another format style.  I know
> there currently another forum which includes P76 and Leyland stuff
> but for some reason it is not used.  Maybe if we move to a Forum
> which is titled Leyland P76 rather than the broader subject we
might
> get somewhere with it.
>
> In the meanwhile I think those that still think this forum style is
> the way to go need to realise that what has happen in the last
> little while is just a limitation of this format and they need to
> use there delete key rather than stop people from having a
legitmate
> debate about stuff they may not be interested in.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In leylandp76@..., "Steve Maher" <steve@>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is ridiculous. Take this subject to a different forum.
Future
> > messages on this subject may not be approved. I'm sure most of us
> are
> > getting tired of this tooing and froing. Lets get back on subject!
> >
> >
> > --- In leylandp76@..., "John Ernst" <jaernst@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > No my suggestion was to take this climate debate to that forum
> and
> > > leave this one for discussion on the P76 and Leyland topics.
> > >
> > > --- In leylandp76@..., R & T Bull <tabull@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "I suggest the following for those that wish to inform
> themselves
> > > rather
> > > > than clutch at the last remain straws of stupidity that is
> those
> > in
> > > denial."
> > > >
> > > > Yes, we should all check out that forum. People on internet
> > forums
> > > are
> > > > always right, always tell the truth and are never afraid to
> say
> > who
> > > they
> > > > really are. If only our world leaders would read internet
> forums
> > we
> > > > wouldn't be in the mess we are now....TIC
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi John
thanks for your reply.
I am having a slight case of heavy steering when I first start the
car in backing out the drive and turning the wheel as i go onto the
roadway.
The other problem is when driving in a straight line and then turning
right or left there is a dead spot, or could say some pulsing .
The rack has been recoed.
The other problem which I find annoying is when after aligning the
wheels in a straight line the steering wheel is in the wrong postion.
I need to straighten the wheel, but find that I have to remove the
steering wheel boss to do this.
Cheers
Adrian


--- In leylandp76@..., "John Ernst" <jaernst@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Adrian,
>
> I have done it but I did it according to the book and it worked
> fine.  What specific issue are you having?  As the only issue I
ever
> had was when I didn't follow the manual and I ended up with a
> pulsing effect on intial turn in.
>
> Also while we are on P/S I did the mods that are on the National
> Website that Hal Mollony suggested people may be interested to know
> that doing these mods makes the steering on slightly heavier than a
> manual rack nowhere near as heavy as P/S when a belt breaks,
> apparently this is because when a belt breaks some of the
risistance
> in the steering is caused by the rack itself becoming the pump and
> moving fluid through valves etc.
>
> regards
>
> John E.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In leylandp76@..., "Adrian Spencer"
> <yowee_98@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I was wondering if anyone has taken the time to prime the power
> > steering pump after changing the rack.
> > If you did change the rack and not prime it what issues did you
> > discover?
> > If you have what procedures and problem did you encounter.
> > I would like to know in your own words not refering to the
manuals.
> > Cheers
> > Adrian
> >
>

Hi Adrian,

I have done it but I did it according to the book and it worked
fine.  What specific issue are you having?  As the only issue I ever
had was when I didn't follow the manual and I ended up with a
pulsing effect on intial turn in.

Also while we are on P/S I did the mods that are on the National
Website that Hal Mollony suggested people may be interested to know
that doing these mods makes the steering on slightly heavier than a
manual rack nowhere near as heavy as P/S when a belt breaks,
apparently this is because when a belt breaks some of the risistance
in the steering is caused by the rack itself becoming the pump and
moving fluid through valves etc.

regards

John E.








--- In leylandp76@..., "Adrian Spencer"
<yowee_98@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I was wondering if anyone has taken the time to prime the power
> steering pump after changing the rack.
> If you did change the rack and not prime it what issues did you
> discover?
> If you have what procedures and problem did you encounter.
> I would like to know in your own words not refering to the manuals.
> Cheers
> Adrian
>

Steve can't agree with pulling posts it just highlights once again
the need to upgrade the style of forum, just because you and many
others (including myself) don't think it is appropriate for this
forum shouldn't give any moderator the right to not allow it as it
does violate the policy of having this forum it is not rude, sexist
derogaortory or any of the other things that would justify not
having this.  You are suggesting censorship based on disintrest in
the topic, that would be the thin edge of the wedge.  If for example
we had a forum whereby there was an area to discuss off-topic items
this whole thing wouldn't be a problem.  We have a new committee at
the Victorian P76 Club and I will certainly be bringing up this
topic again to see if we can move to another format style.  I know
there currently another forum which includes P76 and Leyland stuff
but for some reason it is not used.  Maybe if we move to a Forum
which is titled Leyland P76 rather than the broader subject we might
get somewhere with it.

In the meanwhile I think those that still think this forum style is
the way to go need to realise that what has happen in the last
little while is just a limitation of this format and they need to
use there delete key rather than stop people from having a legitmate
debate about stuff they may not be interested in.





--- In leylandp76@..., "Steve Maher" <steve@...>
wrote:
>
> This is ridiculous. Take this subject to a different forum. Future
> messages on this subject may not be approved. I'm sure most of us
are
> getting tired of this tooing and froing. Lets get back on subject!
>
>
> --- In leylandp76@..., "John Ernst" <jaernst@>
> wrote:
> >
> > No my suggestion was to take this climate debate to that forum
and
> > leave this one for discussion on the P76 and Leyland topics.
> >
> > --- In leylandp76@..., R & T Bull <tabull@> wrote:
> > >
> > > "I suggest the following for those that wish to inform
themselves
> > rather
> > > than clutch at the last remain straws of stupidity that is
those
> in
> > denial."
> > >
> > > Yes, we should all check out that forum. People on internet
> forums
> > are
> > > always right, always tell the truth and are never afraid to
say
> who
> > they
> > > really are. If only our world leaders would read internet
forums
> we
> > > wouldn't be in the mess we are now....TIC
> > >
> >
>

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone has taken the time to prime the power
steering pump after changing the rack.
If you did change the rack and not prime it what issues did you
discover?
If you have what procedures and problem did you encounter.
I would like to know in your own words not refering to the manuals.
Cheers
Adrian

Me thinketh that I agree

-----Original Message-----
From: leylandp76@... [mailto:leylandp76@...]
On Behalf Of Steve Maher
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2008 11:56 PM
To: leylandp76@...
Subject: [leylandp76] Re: Internet Forums

This is ridiculous. Take this subject to a different forum. Future messages
on this subject may not be approved. I'm sure most of us are getting tired
of this tooing and froing. Lets get back on subject!

This is ridiculous. Take this subject to a different forum. Future
messages on this subject may not be approved. I'm sure most of us are
getting tired of this tooing and froing. Lets get back on subject!


--- In leylandp76@..., "John Ernst" <jaernst@...>
wrote:
>
> No my suggestion was to take this climate debate to that forum and
> leave this one for discussion on the P76 and Leyland topics.
>
> --- In leylandp76@..., R & T Bull <tabull@> wrote:
> >
> > "I suggest the following for those that wish to inform themselves
> rather
> > than clutch at the last remain straws of stupidity that is those
in
> denial."
> >
> > Yes, we should all check out that forum. People on internet
forums
> are
> > always right, always tell the truth and are never afraid to say
who
> they
> > really are. If only our world leaders would read internet forums
we
> > wouldn't be in the mess we are now....TIC
> >
>

No my suggestion was to take this climate debate to that forum and
leave this one for discussion on the P76 and Leyland topics.

--- In leylandp76@..., R & T Bull <tabull@...> wrote:
>
> "I suggest the following for those that wish to inform themselves
rather
> than clutch at the last remain straws of stupidity that is those in
denial."
>
> Yes, we should all check out that forum. People on internet forums
are
> always right, always tell the truth and are never afraid to say who
they
> really are. If only our world leaders would read internet forums we
> wouldn't be in the mess we are now....TIC
>

Mick we are talking about Climate Change, not global warming.  Yes
its winter so what? ... except rainfall is below average again....
the Murray River is about to collapse....  Bonnie Doon has losts
it's serenity along with most of it's water and has been water free
for nearly a decade....  Lake Wendoree is empty...  Lake Hindmarsh
is empty...  along with several dozen other lakes in regional
Victoria.  To top it off we had two, not one, but two supposed one
in one hundred year floods in Gippsland last year.

In South Gippsland we've had two one in one hundred year flood
events at the Powlett River.  All perfectly natural occurances I'm
sure.  Climate Change is about extreme weather events more
frequently and has nothing to do with what the petrol companies have
called global warming, though it is true some areas will become
dryer and warmer others will become colder.  But as I keep saying
what has this got to do with this Forum??????     Hence my link to
the other Forum where you can test your theories against other
people.

In 1986 I moved to a house in on the top of a mountain range in the
first 20 years we had one major storm event that had winds packing
over 120 kph, since 2006 we have had five with one gusting at over
165 kph.  That is climate change and the rate of change is one hell
of a lot quicker than you people sitting in your lounges in the
cities are being led to believe.












--- In leylandp76@..., "michael clarke"
<mclarke18@...> wrote:
>
> Good one Ernst. Im freezing my tits off here in bayswater and you
are
> convinced ill be burning up sometime soon. Let me know when to
panick!!!
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: leylandp76@...
[mailto:leylandp76@...]
> On Behalf Of John Ernst
> Sent: Monday, 28 July 2008 9:54 AM
> To: leylandp76@...
> Subject: Re: [leylandp76] Emissions
>
>
>
> As I said this should all be discussed in another forum not here,
when the
> conclussions of the science actually start coming out with some
concrete
> proposal which will impact on us then maybe, but I see nothing in
the
> arguments that have been put forward that actually contribute to
the debate
> other than some mis-guided notion that old reports which have been
> superceeded by more recent reports several times over are trotted
out in
> defence of the now indefencable.  If you are talking about Dr Tim
Flannery
> then I would suggest when you and any other people have the
qualifications
> that this geezer or at least quote directly people with a similar
or greater
> qualifications then maybe your arguments may hold some weight.
Those that
> continue to aspouse that "global warming" (a term conied by the oil
> companies) isn't occuring are in serious denial.   Climate Change
is here it
> is occuring and the burning of fossil fuels is contributing to the
release
> of vastquanities of methane which is also a greenhouse gas.
>
>
>
> I suggest the following for those that wish to inform themselves
rather than
> clutch at the last remain straws of stupidity that is those in
denial.
>
>
>
> http://www.sciforum
> <http://www.sciforums.com/Frozen-CO2-Methane-does-it-take-away-all-
hope-of-s
> topping-greenhouse-t-50926.html>
> s.com/Frozen-CO2-Methane-does-it-take-away-all-hope-of-stopping-
greenhouse-t
> -50926.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 25/07/2008, michael clarke <mclarke18@optusnet.
> <mailto:mclarke18@...> com.au> wrote:
>
> The debate about whether man made greenhouse gasses have any
influence on
> global warming is relevant to every car enthusiast whose car burns
fossil
> fuels.
>
>
>
> We have that geezer who won Australian of the year, the
climatologist whats
> his name saying the government should be "buying back" fuel
inefficient
> older cars.
>
>
>
> We have the CSIRO suggesting petrol will go to $10  a litre.
>
>
>
> Both of these scenarios should send a cold chill down the spine of
p76 and
> all classic car owners.
>
>
>
> Both ideas grew from the tidal wave of junk science and mass
hysteria that
> is the man induced global warming religion.
>
>
>
> What emissions do coal fired power stations have? You can count
out of the
> equation greenhouse gasses because, as I have said, they are
irrelevant to
> the natural cycles of the earth warming and cooling. What are the
emissions
> and what harm do they do?
>
>
>
> And john I agree with bull..scientific studies DO NOT necessarily
become
> outdated as they age. Someone has to prove them wrong first!
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: leylandp76@yahoogro <mailto:leylandp76@...>
ups.com.au
> [mailto:leylandp76@yahoogro <mailto:leylandp76@...>
> ups.com.au] On Behalf Of R & T Bull
> Sent: Friday, 25 July 2008 5:23 AM
> To: leylandp76@yahoogro <mailto:leylandp76@...>
ups.com.au
> Subject: [leylandp76] Emissions
>
>
>
> I don't know how the discussion ended up on emissions and exactly
what
> reference it has to P76's, but I think some people need to
actually READ the
> article posted before replying.
> John Ernst said, "A study in 2001 by RMIT no longer caries any
validity the
> world has moved on..."
> "The study was inspired by a discussion between tram enthusiasts
at RMIT in
> late 2001" The actual article was written in 2003. Outdated?
probably not.
> The world has moved on-it's probably much worse now. and;
> Mick Clark said,"Trams are better than cars because they emit
absolutely no
> pollution whatsoever."
> Rubbish! What about the emissions from coal-powered power stations
to make
> the electricity used? and;
> "When they stop to pick up and drop off passengers, up to 40 cars
[can]
> backed up behind a stopped tram," = more emissions
> "After conducting a life cycle analysis of each form of transport,
trams
> were found to add about 80 per cent more greenhouse gas as a
result of these
> flow-on effects."
>

"I suggest the following for those that wish to inform themselves rather
than clutch at the last remain straws of stupidity that is those in denial."

Yes, we should all check out that forum. People on internet forums are
always right, always tell the truth and are never afraid to say who they
really are. If only our world leaders would read internet forums we
wouldn't be in the mess we are now....TIC

Hunter Valley Here We Come!

See Notice in Files

--- In leylandp76@..., "Steve Maher" <steve@...> wrote:
>
> The first meeting proved to be quite fruitful with many suggestions
> on venues ranging from Hunter Valley to Bathurst, Richmond, South
> Coast and Southern Highlands. The Committe meets again in 2 months
> and members will table thier findings on all possible venues. A short
> list will be made and then as a group we will go and check them out
> individually. One thing that did come up is that 2013 will be the
> 40th Aniversary of the P76. Everyone should consider the the
> following:
> A). Should there be a Nationals to coincide with the aniversary?
> B). If so Should there be a 3 year gap from 2010 till the 2013
> Nationals or should we hold one in between in 2011? If we are going
> to have one in 2011 a decision should be made fairly soon - at least
> before Easter 2009.
> Give this some serious thought everyone.
>
>
> --- In leylandp76@..., "Steve Maher" steve@ wrote:
> >
> > Easter Nationals 2010 will be from Thursday April 1 to Monday April
> > 5. Put it in your diaries.
> >
> >
> > --- In leylandp76@..., "Steve Maher" <steve@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry to hear that Andrew. I hope that in the course of the next
> 2
> > > years we may be able to convince you to make the trip over as I
> > > believe that the 2010 Nationals will be unforgettable and
> > unmissable.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In leylandp76@..., "Andrew Kloot" <force7v@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > probably wont be able to make it have other events on at that
> > time
> > > of the year
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: michael clarke
> > > > To: leylandp76@...
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:30 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [leylandp76] Re: 2010 P76 Nationals
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Look forward to it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > > ----------
> > > >
> > > > From: leylandp76@...
> > > [mailto:leylandp76@...] On Behalf Of Steve Maher
> > > > Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 9:35 PM
> > > > To: leylandp76@...
> > > > Subject: [leylandp76] Re: 2010 P76 Nationals
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Great News. Both the NSW Owners Club and Classic Club have
> > agreed
> > > to
> > > > co-host the 2010 Nationals in NSW. A Nationals Organising
> > > Committee
> > > > has been formed with its first bipartisan meeting to be held
> > next
> > > > month. The committee consists of:
> > > > Jason Birmingham
> > > > Greg Bryant
> > > > Tony De Luca
> > > > Joe Green
> > > > Troy Green
> > > > Steve Maher
> > > > Peter O'Brien
> > > > Marty Stockwell
> > > > The first meeting will hopefully decide where in this great
> > State
> > > the
> > > > 2010 Nationals will be.
> > > >
> > > > --- In leylandp76@..., "Steve Maher" <steve@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just to let you all know, there has been some progress on
> the
> > > 2010
> > > > > Nationals organising in NSW. Cant say much yet - more next
> > week.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>