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RE: [otmushrooms] Re: The Liquidation Monster is getting closer

Totally agree with you, Nick.

I'm not taking sides, I'm resigned to the fate that the company will
continue (good for current employees who "can't afford to be unemployed" -
like we *could*?) but not so good for us ex-employees.

The time to strike with the media is long past. The deed has been agreed to
and only needs to be signed now. Any reporter will first ask, "Well, why did
you vote for the deed?" and "Why didn't you kick up a stink three months
ago?"

Too late to come out of the woodwork now and demand action. That should've
been done in the beginning. Unless we're now talking about court
intervention.

(BTW, Ansett employees have STILL not received all their entitlements...)

I have it on very good authority that the deed will be executed before or on
the 18th.

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nick4mony [mailto:no_reply@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2002 10:17 PM
> To: otmushrooms@...
> Subject: [otmushrooms] Re: The Liquidation Monster is getting closer
>
>
> --- In otmushrooms@y..., "Steve Gerlach" <gerlach@a...> wrote:
> > With just 5 days to go, we've left our run waaaay too late.
> >
> > SG
> >
>
>
> To remove any doubt, it is better for most ex-employees if they fail
> to "execute" the deed.
>
> Why?
>
> 1. If the deed is not signed on time, the company goes into
> liquidation. (answer to question I asked at meeting).
>
> 2. If the company liquidates, GEERS apparantly pays out in full.
>
> Of course, that screws the current employees as well as:
> contractors (current or not)
> ordinary (trade) creditors.
>
> While I understand that "SG" is an ex-employee, there are a few
> current employees on this list who would obviously fall into the
> opposite camp, and so it is a sensitive issue. I guess the one thing
> that everyone can agree on though, is "the law is an ass".
>
> Alas, it's time for my last bus.
> Nick.
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Today, I phoned Marcus Ayres to ask about the progress of the Deed and I am told it has not yet been signed ("executed"). I tried to get from him a gut feel as...
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Make no mistake, the deed *will* be signed by Monday 18th. SG ... http://au.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/...
Steve Gerlach
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Nov 13, 2002
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... ... I can't be so sure, based on previous form. Nick....
nick4mony
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... I can get the names of a number of transport reporters at various papers ... now if they also are general/business reporters ... (?) [this includes the...
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Thats a start Nick - how does everyone else feel about this - or is everyone just going to kick back and take what is offered - whenever it is offered. What a...
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ummmm... well.... kicking back and taking what is offered is kinda the aussie way... though usually what's offered is beer. ... From: "Stephan Wickham"...
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With just 5 days to go, we've left our run waaaay too late. SG ... http://au.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/...
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Nov 13, 2002
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... To remove any doubt, it is better for most ex-employees if they fail to "execute" the deed. Why? 1. If the deed is not signed on time, the company goes...
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Totally agree with you, Nick. I'm not taking sides, I'm resigned to the fate that the company will continue (good for current employees who "can't afford to be...
Steve Gerlach
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Nov 13, 2002
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... Have you really just given up on GEERS? It is clear from the documentation on their web site that your entitlements are payable whether or not a DEED is...
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... The only issue is the wording of the deed. From someone at GEERS, in email a while back (I believe I posted this before, but a recap might be timely): 8< ...
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Nov 14, 2002
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Brian, I'm sure if your thoughts are correct, Deloittes can confirm them. Their GEERS Expert reads the website too, I believe. If we're incorrect, Deloittes...
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Jane, Ah, I remember that now. Maybe Deloittes can tell us the wording. I mean, they'd *have* to know, right? Wouldn't they? Maybe? It seems like a simple...
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I read with amusement today that one of the opposition head finance honchos can't contest his seat in the election because he's not enrolled to vote -- it put...
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... enrolled to ... Not the only dopey thing to come out of the Liberals. Found this cracker in the Age 14 Nov 2002. Zoned out At the Carrum station on...
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Of course, this gets to the nub of the problem. In this case, are the \"employees\" a collection of singular entities, or are they a single collective entity....
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Nov 14, 2002
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Deloittes is hardly going to answer "Does the deed extinguish employee entitlements? Yes or No?" 1) they probably don't know what GEERS is going to do (since...
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