============================================================
This is a brief public summary of a phone discussion between GEERS DEWR
(Department
of Employment and Work Place Relations) representatives and Paul Davis on the
26th August 2003.
The following points were made by the department:
It is the desire of the department to provide GEERS assistance to the former
Open Tel employees, however the terms of the Open Tel DoCA are inconsistent with
the terms of the GEERS operational arrangements.
It needs to be understood that GEERS was established by the Federal Government
to provide a safety net for the entitlements of employees who have been
terminated due to their former employers' insolvency. GEERS was not set-up to
provide assistance to company's to restructure themselves. However, in certain
circumstances GEERS can provide assistance to terminated employees where a DoCA
has been entered into.
The circumstances in which GEERS assistance will be provided under a DoCA is
where the payment of all funds available under the DoCA follows the priority of
creditors as set in Sec 556 of the Corp Act. This would mean that the funds
available under the DoCA would be provided to meet employees entitlements
before other unsecured creditors are paid. Hence, if there are sufficient
available funds under the DoCA to pay all of the
employee entitlements then these funds should be directed at paying out the
entirety of the entitlements. On the hand, if there are insufficient funds to
pay-out all of the entitlements, then all available funds should be used to
pay-out as much of the entitlements as possible. In both cases GEERS assistance
would be provided to the fullest extent that the GEERS operational arrangements
stipulate. This means that assistance provided to
each employee would be determined by their salary level and not the amount
directed to them under the terms of the DoCA.
It should be noted that Sec 556 only directly applies to companies in
liquidation and a DoCA does not necessarily have to comply with priorities set
out in Sec 556. The DEWR has made it very clear to all insolvency
practitioners since March 2002 of the mandatory requirements of a DoCA, where
they wish to avail themselves of the provision of GEERS assistance for
employees. DEWR continues to state these requirements to insolvency
practitioners in each new case.
Former employees should aware of the Media Release from the Minister, the Hon
Tony Abbott MP entitled "GEERS Assistance For Open Telecommunications
Employees".
<p://www.dewrsb.gov.au/ministersAndMediaCentre/mediacentre/detail.asp?show=2677&\
creator=Abbott>
In particular the final paragraph which states:
"In the case of Open Telecommunications Ltd employees GEERS assistance will be
available if the deed of company arrangement agreed to by creditors is altered
to reflect the requirements set out in the GEERS Operation Arrangements."
It is correct to interpret this statement as saying that while the former
Open Tel employees GEERS claim has been found to be ineligible due to the
inconsistency between the DoCA and the GEERS requirements, they
would be reassessed and assistance could be provided , subject to the OAs, under
the following circumstances:
1. the OT directors agreed to change the DoCA in line with the GEERS operational
arrangements, OR
2. the DoCA fails before its terms have been fully met. Thus may occur for a
number of reasons including a court ruling resulting from any legal action, OR a
decision by creditors to liquidate the company.
Of course in the circumstances above the Department would need to take into
account the terms of the revised DoCA and/or any associated court order(s) in
assessing the eligibility of the former Open Tel employees
============================================================
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If you had an empty envelope from Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, could you
please complain to ASIC?
It may not seem like much of an issue, but I'm sure ASIC would be
interested if this sort of thing is going on (even if they do seem
uninterested on the outside)
Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
-----
Reminder: First payment from OT of $790000 due to Deloitte this Sunday
31 Aug 2003
-oOo-
Hi Nick,
I'm also employed back at OT, started a few weeks ago. You know the rest.
It's fine whether I'm on the openvictims group list or not. Given a choice I
would like to stay on the list.
Cheers
Gurjit
nick4mony <no_reply@...> wrote:
If you haven't had confirmation of your entitlements from Deloitte
Touche Tohmatsu, then now is the time to ask. For me, the first
thing is they've mixed up my expenses and on-call allowance.
The second thing is that they say this:
Our legal advice in relation to entitlement to the payment of
a redundancy in addition to notice provided in employee
contracts based on their being a generally accepted practice
of the company, continues to be that there is no such
entitlement.
With regards to my claim, they took one week off the notice period,
and three weeks off my redundancy period. I'm trying to get to the
bottom of that logic, but it means when you add the two of them
together, they add up to the original claim for redundancy (the
company formula, not the Award formula).
I also sent them my academic results and the offer letter (offer of
employment), and this confirmed in their eyes that I am covered by
the Award.
It seems therefore, that they have accepted the concept of
redundancy, but there are still some issues, both with what legal
entitlements we have, and with the processing of claims at Deloitte.
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New information to hand: new date for the change is 17 Sept 2003.
I am planning to set up an alternative public repository for files
and photos so that people do not have to use a Yahoo ID to get the
files. I will advise when this is being implemented.
It seems the change came about when I disputed Yahoo's assertion that
they had emailed all group moderators and placed a message on the
Groups home page in Yahoo.
For Australian-based groups, both of these have happened only today.
Nick Bishop.
How can I change the Email address that I have registered...???
Aslo Nick can you give me a phone numbe ryou can be contatced on.
Ben Castan
-----Original Message-----
From: nick4mony [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:29
To: otmushrooms@...
Subject: [otmushrooms] GEERS claim for OT staff has failed
For the benefit of anyone not on openVictims, we got advice yesterday
(Wednesday) that our GEERS claim had failed.
A letter is being sent out from the Department to all claimants, with
the reason being the Deed does not respect the priorities set down in
Section 556 of the Corporations Act.
A press release, from the Department of Employment and Workplace
Relations is here.
http://tinyurl.com/juo7
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>the correct person seems to be:
>
> Andrew Needham aneedham@...
Until he resigns next week... like the rest of them.
> Hard to get hold of on the
> phone.
That's a surprise. Too busy hiding.
SG
Hi all,
I had an email from Peter G Yates yesterday saying he had yesterday returned
from leave and will get back to me shortly "after meeting with the company".
I have been asked for contact details for Deloittes. My understanding of
the status when last I spoke to Deloittes (approx 1 month ago) was that they
were waiting on the rejection from DEWR and were going to send out a letter
requesting proof that you are covered by the award, along with a letter
about DEWR's rejection. I have asked for clarification on this.
However, should you wish to contact Deloittes to get your confirmation of
your entitlements, the correct person seems to be:
Andrew Needham <aneedham@...>
Phone: +61 2 9322 7138 Hard to get hold of on the phone.
Facsimile: +61 2 9322 7261
Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu
Corporate Reorganisation Group
Level 2 Grosvenor Place
225 George Street
Sydney NSW 2000
Mail:
PO Box N250 Grosvenor Place
Sydney NSW 1217
The administrator is Peter G Yates.
rgds
Tom
If you haven't had confirmation of your entitlements from Deloitte
Touche Tohmatsu, then now is the time to ask. For me, the first
thing is they've mixed up my expenses and on-call allowance.
The second thing is that they say this:
Our legal advice in relation to entitlement to the payment of
a redundancy in addition to notice provided in employee
contracts based on their being a generally accepted practice
of the company, continues to be that there is no such
entitlement.
With regards to my claim, they took one week off the notice period,
and three weeks off my redundancy period. I'm trying to get to the
bottom of that logic, but it means when you add the two of them
together, they add up to the original claim for redundancy (the
company formula, not the Award formula).
I also sent them my academic results and the offer letter (offer of
employment), and this confirmed in their eyes that I am covered by
the Award.
It seems therefore, that they have accepted the concept of
redundancy, but there are still some issues, both with what legal
entitlements we have, and with the processing of claims at Deloitte.
Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
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-oOo-
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For the benefit of anyone not on openVictims, we got advice yesterday
(Wednesday) that our GEERS claim had failed.
A letter is being sent out from the Department to all claimants, with
the reason being the Deed does not respect the priorities set down in
Section 556 of the Corporations Act.
A press release, from the Department of Employment and Workplace
Relations is here.
http://tinyurl.com/juo7
Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
At about 12:50am this morning, the fortune cookie program, executed
from my linux login script, gave me this:
You shall be rewarded for a dastardly deed
Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the otmushrooms
group.
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/14/1058034944946.html
Backlash over missing super
By Anne Lampe
July 15 2003
Tougher action against employers who fail to pay compulsory super
contributions is being pushed by the Federal Opposition and the Australian
Manufacturing Workers Union.
The campaign follows the discovery of a $700,000 hole in employee super
contributions at supermarket trolley maker Metro Products, which had an
administrator appointed two weeks ago.
Now, it has been discovered that Metro's super contributions for 2002-03 -
representing 9 per cent of workers' pay - have not been paid, according to
the AMWU and shadow workplace relations minister Craig Emerson.
And there is nothing anyone can do to get them back. Unpaid super
contributions are not included in the General Employee Entitlements and
Redundancy Scheme (GEERS) which gives preference to workers' back pay,
unpaid holiday and long service leave ahead of other creditors.
But super contributions are not covered.
Until this year, employers were required to pay super contributions only at
the end of the financial year, and many employees whose super contributions
went unpaid did not find out until it was too late.
From this financial year, contributions must be paid quarterly. Mr Emerson
and Paul Bastion, the NSW State secretary of the AMWU, said they would like
to have employers pay contributions monthly.
Last year Labor introduced a bill into parliament to protect workers'
superannuation contributions in the event of corporate collapse, but it was
rejected by the Coalition Government.
Mr Bastion says in 2001-02 more than 6000 companies failed, many leaving
workers out of pocket.
Mr Bastion said the union was assured last April that super would be paid by
June. "That is why this union has been demanding a number of improvements in
corporate law reform.
"First and foremost we believe there should be a reverse onus in the act
[the Corporations Act] in relation to the eligibility of directors.
"We say that once a company goes into liquidation . . . the directors should
be automatically debarred from holding office unless they can demonstrate to
a court or to the appropriate authority that they have exercised their
fiduciary duty as directors in accordance with the law, and when they have
done that they can be opted back in."
Mr Bastion said he had previously referred a number of failed employers to
the Australian Securities and Investments Commission for action. "Our
experience to date is a 100 per cent lack of interest from ASIC in these
type of collapses.
"Their argument to us is that they don't have sufficient funds to chase them
all, so they stick to the sexy ones. It is not good enough. Either the
Government should give more money to enable ASIC to carry out the proper
prosecutions as a real deterrent to these directors or automatically debar
them and they must demonstrate their bona fides to get back in."
A spokeswoman for ASIC said it was rare to prosecute directors for insolvent
trading because it was hard to prove and that many failures resulted from
mismanagement, which was not a crime.
This story was found at:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/14/1058034944946.html
I had a moment of joy when I saw the subject line of this email. In Dutch, to
turn
the corner means to die.
> Steve Gerlach <gerlach@...> wrote:
>
> They must've tested it inhouse before releasing it....
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nick4mony [mailto:no_reply@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 9:00 PM
> > To: otmushrooms@...
> > Subject: [otmushrooms] Deloittes have turned the corner
> >
> > ... unfortunately it's the wrong part of Deloittes.
> >
> > Deloitte Consulting have recently written a program called
> > BullFighter. It looks for "fluffy" language and highlights it.
> They
> > say that the more fluffy language an organisation puts out, the
> more
> > insolvent it is (EnCon, WorldCON, ...)
> >
> > Examples of fluffy language:
> > A value-added, leverageable global knowledge repository."
> >
> > "Repurposeable, leading edge thoughtware that delivers
> results-driven
> > value."
> >
> > For more amusement, visit
> > http://www.dc.com/insights/bullfighter/
> >
> > *****
> >
> > I should point out that Deloitte Consulting have completely
> separated
> > from Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, and I believe DC is to be renamed
> > Braxtons. Bear this in mind when thinking about those 52% pay cuts
> > at DC.
> >
> > Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
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I did a bit of checking up, and it seems that Robert Whitton has
really left Deloittes.
In relation to the National Express administration, he has resigned
as an administrator of NX, and Peter Yates (of all people) has taken
over as the 2nd administrator (alongside Simon Wallace-Smith, the
other original Administrator).
*****
In a few minutes the NX Deed PROPOSAL (not the actual Deed) will be
put on the (public) list, under the UNOFFICIAL section (because it's
not the actual Deed).
The actual Deed was executed a couple of weeks ago, but it's not
freely available (... business as usual).
The Deed (proposal) is quite an eye-opener.
1. Employees are not even a part of the Deed, because the State
Government unconditionally paid them out (yes, Peter Batchelor, the
Minister of Transport, being generous).
2. The State Government won't recover anything from the Deed.
3. No mention of the Performance Guarantees that the Government is
holding (as a security against default - which is exactly what's
happened). The Government is taking a hard line about keeping that
money (about $80m?)
*****
National Express (NX) is the entity behind M>Tram and M>Train. It
appears that the National Express Bus company is unaffected.
Nick.
They must've tested it inhouse before releasing it....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nick4mony [mailto:no_reply@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 9:00 PM
> To: otmushrooms@...
> Subject: [otmushrooms] Deloittes have turned the corner
>
> ... unfortunately it's the wrong part of Deloittes.
>
> Deloitte Consulting have recently written a program called
> BullFighter. It looks for "fluffy" language and highlights it. They
> say that the more fluffy language an organisation puts out, the more
> insolvent it is (EnCon, WorldCON, ...)
>
> Examples of fluffy language:
> A value-added, leverageable global knowledge repository."
>
> "Repurposeable, leading edge thoughtware that delivers results-driven
> value."
>
> For more amusement, visit
> http://www.dc.com/insights/bullfighter/
>
> *****
>
> I should point out that Deloitte Consulting have completely separated
> from Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, and I believe DC is to be renamed
> Braxtons. Bear this in mind when thinking about those 52% pay cuts
> at DC.
>
> Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
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... unfortunately it's the wrong part of Deloittes.
Deloitte Consulting have recently written a program called
BullFighter. It looks for "fluffy" language and highlights it. They
say that the more fluffy language an organisation puts out, the more
insolvent it is (EnCon, WorldCON, ...)
Examples of fluffy language:
A value-added, leverageable global knowledge repository."
"Repurposeable, leading edge thoughtware that delivers results-driven
value."
For more amusement, visit
http://www.dc.com/insights/bullfighter/
*****
I should point out that Deloitte Consulting have completely separated
from Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, and I believe DC is to be renamed
Braxtons. Bear this in mind when thinking about those 52% pay cuts
at DC.
Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
Maybe the government could bring in an "OT Phone Levy" which would be a tax
on all phone calls made until we are paid out. Wouldn't take long to get the
amount in the coffers...
SG
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Northey [mailto:tn@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 1:36 PM
> To: otmushrooms@...
> Subject: Re: [otmushrooms] Nick Bishop's submission is now publically
> available
>
> Very good submission Nick. Well done.
>
> I would also recommend reading the ACTU submission No 32, which has many
> interesting tid-bits. e.g. govt stated an intention to change law to
> place
> employee entitlements ahead of secured creditors prior to last election
> (but
> hasn't done it), and scheme to pay Ansett employee entitlements was
> substantially the same as GEERS but without payment caps.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nick4mony" <no_reply@...>
> To: <otmushrooms@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:15 PM
> Subject: [otmushrooms] Nick Bishop's submission is now publically
> available
>
>
> > My submission to the Parliamentary Joint Committee is now on the
> > web. The specific URL, in word format:
> >
> > http://shorterlink.com/?H49MVH ... expands to:
> > http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/corporations_ctte/ail/submissio
> > ns/sub036.doc
> >
> > The list of submissions is:
> >
> > http://shorterlink.com/?ZCUDGJ ... expands to:
> > http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/corporations_ctte/ail/submissio
> > ns/sublist.htm
> >
> > I am number 36, but they mistakenly put submitter details
> > suppressed. I've asked that to be changed.
> >
> > Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
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Very good submission Nick. Well done.
I would also recommend reading the ACTU submission No 32, which has many
interesting tid-bits. e.g. govt stated an intention to change law to place
employee entitlements ahead of secured creditors prior to last election (but
hasn't done it), and scheme to pay Ansett employee entitlements was
substantially the same as GEERS but without payment caps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nick4mony" <no_reply@...>
To: <otmushrooms@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:15 PM
Subject: [otmushrooms] Nick Bishop's submission is now publically available
> My submission to the Parliamentary Joint Committee is now on the
> web. The specific URL, in word format:
>
> http://shorterlink.com/?H49MVH ... expands to:
> http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/corporations_ctte/ail/submissio
> ns/sub036.doc
>
> The list of submissions is:
>
> http://shorterlink.com/?ZCUDGJ ... expands to:
> http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/corporations_ctte/ail/submissio
> ns/sublist.htm
>
> I am number 36, but they mistakenly put submitter details
> suppressed. I've asked that to be changed.
>
> Nick Bishop, bigfoot.com @ nick4mony
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