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#1352 From: "Brett Calvert" <bacalv61@...>
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 10:04 am
Subject:: Relay board, trap for beginners.
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Don't forget to install the jumper that sits between the fuel pump
relay and the fast idle relay. The V position allows power onto the
contacts of the fast idle relay. It's hard to see on the schematic
and so is easily missed.
Well I missed it :( and believe me it's much easier to solder in if
the boards not in the car. Or glovebox as in my case.

Brett.

#1351 From: chopc@...
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:07 pm
Subject:: Re: EIDS
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>
>i've only managed to get a 6cyl unit into Oz - via the US - took nearly 8
weeks and i
>had all along expected a 4cyl unit ;(
>

Aviod normal air mail parcels !! , There is a US Postal service  prepaid $5
"Global Priority Mail" package that allows them to send anything ( smallish
and under 4lb , 1.6Kg in weight) anywhere in the world for $5  , 4 EDIS
usnits will fit into the pack and the weight is less than 2lb , takes 4-7 days


>I was going to suggest trying the UK for 4cyl units - maybe ordering online
to get
>delivery to family/friend in the UK who've agreed to post the units on.

Have tried this , due to the pound/dollar rate combined with wicked overseas
postage rates from the UK makes it a non goer !!


>BTW - is there a list of suitable wasted-spark coil packs that we can
source in Oz?
>
I've got hold of a couple of Mitsubishi units ( one from ebay in Oz , )quite
nice and handy as they use simple standard screw on type connectors rather
than special plugs
however the price I ended up paying for the Oz unit worked out twice as much
as getting them from ebay in the US , postage included !!!

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>   From: "Gareth Webb" <garethwebb1976@...>
>Subject: Re: EDIS
>
>Hi, I know the Ef and AU falcons use the edis system, prob is its all
>part of the mainboard in the ECU, none the less the coil packs and
>crank trigger and 36-1 wheel are goers, other coil packs can be
>sourced from VN to current commodores as they are modualr i.e can
>remove each waste spark coil pack so could be good alternatives for 4
>bangers,



Useful info , saves me maching up 36 tooth wheels !!!

#1350 From: Luke <slow_hemi6@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:45 am
Subject:: Re: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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Okay I too was thinking about running a wasted spark for my 6cyl.
My basic idea was. Use a digital counter (4017) to translate the signal to
outputs 1,2 and 3 and then out 4 to trigger the reset pin (not directly).To
prevent fireing the wrong cyl  I thought of using a second trigger going high
just before and after cyl 1 fires and the same for cyl 4. this signal would be
ANDed (2 of) with signal from out 2 and out 3. The oututs of these ANDs would be
ORed and the output of this OR would be ORed with the out 4  and the output of
this OR would signal the reset. Each of the outputs would trigger probably
through switching transistors an ignition module witch would fire waste spark
1&6,5&2 and 3&4.Very early stages of an idea here and as to how it would cope
with the frequency of switching etc I don't know.
However this seemed to hard and I'm going to go with the dissy as my 6 wont rev
that hard anyway.
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#1349 From: "Gareth Webb" <garethwebb1976@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:46 am
Subject:: Re: EDIS
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Hi, I know the Ef and AU falcons use the edis system, prob is its all
part of the mainboard in the ECU, none the less the coil packs and
crank trigger and 36-1 wheel are goers, other coil packs can be
sourced from VN to current commodores as they are modualr i.e can
remove each waste spark coil pack so could be good alternatives for 4
bangers,
Gareth

#1348 From: Stewart Ford <sford@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 5:42 am
Subject:: Re: Just a bit of self promotion and cross promotion.
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Brett Calvert wrote:

> Self Promotion:
> Next time you're at you local news agents have a look at the April
> edition of Australian Street Rodding.
> There's an article about my car on page 22. Pre EFI tho.

i got mine this morning :) looks so much better in the flesh tho!!
but it's good to read the writeup :)
damn those seats are comfortable too!!

> BTW my car is now running great. Had a bit of trouble with hard
> acceleration, which turned out to be the VE table being too lean at
> the top end. On the 3D tuning map the VE table now resembles a
> skateboard ramp!
> Thanx for your help Stewart.

no worries, it was my first go at tuning and so much fun :D. i didn't have
much time to look up and see the road whizzing past tho ;)
it really was easy to see, after a few minutes, what was going on with the
mixture just by watching the O2 feedback bar, and also the O2 correction
dial on the tuning page...a mixture of tuning with the cross following the
ball (press G) and adjusting bins bins between runs means that it takes no
time to get the thing wroking well.

always helps that 95% of the table was fine already :D and all the hard
work with constants and enrichments was done :)

i definitely have to come to a hot rod meet soon :) WIFTT ;)

Cya, Stewart

#1347 From: Stewart Ford <sford@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:35 am
Subject:: Re: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Monkey Zu wrote:

> i was hoping something simple could be done, such as using MSnS as normal
> but having 4 output FETS leading to each coil, and switch the correct FET on
> subject to a crank angle sensor. but i havent really thought to hard about
> it.
>

the problme is knowing which output goes where. or, "how does the ECU know
which cylinder is firing"

this means that your trigger setup has to be able to tell the ECU where
not only TDC is, but which cylinder is doing it (in a 4-cyl, is it 1 or
4?)

waste spark is easier, since you need half the outputs, and spark two cyls
at the same time., but you still need to know when TDC is for 1-4, and
2-3.

with Dizzy, just need to know when a spark event has to happen, and the
dizzy works out which cylinder.

you could convert a dizzy to a switch (maybe electronic) with a circuit
that says which cylinder to fire. but you'd need either 2 or 4 pickups for
a 4cyl. could be done, just needs some trigger filtering and a switch to
direct the output from the MS or MSnS to the right coil...

but without a dizzy, you need crank/cam angle sensor+hardware+software..
Cya, Stewart

#1346 From: "thechucksterra40" <thebigchuckster@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:28 am
Subject:: Re: EDIS
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hi chopc/others,

i've only managed to get a 6cyl unit into Oz - via the US - took nearly 8 weeks
and i
had all along expected a 4cyl unit ;(

there was someone the megajolt list with a 4cyl unit in Texas but it would have
cost
me $100AU plus post for the price being asked.

I was going to suggest trying the UK for 4cyl units - maybe ordering online to
get
delivery to family/friend in the UK who've agreed to post the units on.

if there's not any luck with 4cyl units, i might try this approach (i have
distant family
in Scotland).

BTW - is there a list of suitable wasted-spark coil packs that we can source in
Oz?

BTW 2? does anybody know i and when the recently announced FTA with the US will
let us import car stuff from the US without duty? if summit or similar will ship
to Oz
then new units (EDIS and coilpacks) might be accessible.

ta, charles.

--- In oz_ms@..., chopc@t... wrote:
> Having totally failed to find any EDIS units in Australia I've managed to
> get hold of a few from overseas , hopefully they will be getting here within
> a couple of weeks , If anyone is interested I may have a couple of spares

#1345 From: "Brett Calvert" <bacalv61@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:05 am
Subject:: Just a bit of self promotion and cross promotion.
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Self Promotion:
Next time you're at you local news agents have a look at the April
edition of Australian Street Rodding.
There's an article about my car on page 22. Pre EFI tho.

Cross Promotion:
A new book has just been released called Electronic Engine
Management.
http://www.hotrodhandbooks.com.au/eem.htm
It's written by Canberra rodder Choco Munday who has written other
books on this subject. Haven't had a chance to check it out myself
but I'd say that if were converting a V8 then you may find this book
of some interest.

BTW my car is now running great. Had a bit of trouble with hard
acceleration, which turned out to be the VE table being too lean at
the top end. On the 3D tuning map the VE table now resembles a
skateboard ramp!
Thanx for your help Stewart.

Brett.

#1343 From: "Monkey Zu" <fonefixdirect@...>
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:06 am
Subject:: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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i was hoping something simple could be done, such as using MSnS as normal
but having 4 output FETS leading to each coil, and switch the correct FET on
subject to a crank angle sensor. but i havent really thought to hard about
it.


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Subject: [oz_ms] Digest Number 241
Date: 28 Feb 2004 12:40:17 -0000

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Message: 1
     Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:39:26 +1100
     From: chopc@...
Subject: Re: Digest Number 240


  >   From: "Monkey Zu" <fonefixdirect@...>
  >Subject: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
  >
  >i don't know why (well mostly asthetics i guess :), but i like the idea of
  >coil-per-plug. if possible it'd be my preference. does anyone know of how
  >hard it'd be to modify MS'nS to run this (such as running one of the new
  >coil-over-plug types)?


As they say anything is possible , but to use COP with MSnS it would require
major re eingineering and a change of processor or some pretty nifty add on
electronics, in short a MAJOR undertaking , Also COP is a "nice" idea but
even the major manufacturers are mot totally convinced about it :-)  , for
an after markey idea , you need to do a bit of work just for the mechanical
support of the units ( unless there is already a variant of your car with
COP ) , can't kust plug them on and leave them hanging !!

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#1342 From: chopc@...
Date: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:42 pm
Subject:: Re: EDIS
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Having totally failed to find any EDIS units in Australia I've managed to
get hold of a few from overseas , hopefully they will be getting here within
a couple of weeks , If anyone is interested I may have a couple of spares

#1341 From: chopc@...
Date: Sat Feb 28, 2004 5:39 am
Subject:: Re: Digest Number 240
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>   From: "Monkey Zu" <fonefixdirect@...>
>Subject: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
>
>i don't know why (well mostly asthetics i guess :), but i like the idea of
>coil-per-plug. if possible it'd be my preference. does anyone know of how
>hard it'd be to modify MS'nS to run this (such as running one of the new
>coil-over-plug types)?


As they say anything is possible , but to use COP with MSnS it would require
major re eingineering and a change of processor or some pretty nifty add on
electronics, in short a MAJOR undertaking , Also COP is a "nice" idea but
even the major manufacturers are mot totally convinced about it :-)  , for
an after markey idea , you need to do a bit of work just for the mechanical
support of the units ( unless there is already a variant of your car with
COP ) , can't kust plug them on and leave them hanging !!

#1340 From: Luke <slow_hemi6@...>
Date: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:18 am
Subject:: Re: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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Go buy an aftermarket computer Ms hasn't got the drivers.COP needs 4 just for
ignition on a 4cyl.MsnEdis is wasted spark but even that needs the Edis driver
module.Before anyone asks no one has been able to run an Edis8 as COP4 either.
Cheers Luke.



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#1339 From: "Monkey Zu" <fonefixdirect@...>
Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:49 pm
Subject:: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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i don't know why (well mostly asthetics i guess :), but i like the idea of
coil-per-plug. if possible it'd be my preference. does anyone know of how
hard it'd be to modify MS'nS to run this (such as running one of the new
coil-over-plug types)?


Message: 5
     Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:01:45 +1100 (EST)
     From: Luke <slow_hemi6@...>
Subject: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?

Hi all, I have my MS set up as MSnS. Last weekend I hooked it up to my just
finished relay/fuse box,slightly modified jaycar HEI and my home brew
optical distributor.I had the dissy out of the car and spun it up on my
0-3000 rpm battery drill. I ran the coil lead out to a single plug that was
well grounded. This thing threw out great big fat sparks that varied with
the drill speed.Things are looking GOOD! You can trigger MSnS with a few
different triggers and even reluctor triggering(this however has some
drawbacks but most find it works fine).If you want to ask me anything else
about it I'll try to help out. It should work fine with CDI though I
would'nt think it much better than what I have now.
Cheers Luke.



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#1338 From: Luke <slow_hemi6@...>
Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:12 am
Subject:: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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MSnS triggering can be challenging (I have many hours tied up in my dissy) but
apart from that It's really much cheaper!
Cheers Luke.



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#1337 From: Luke <slow_hemi6@...>
Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:01 am
Subject:: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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Hi all, I have my MS set up as MSnS. Last weekend I hooked it up to my just
finished relay/fuse box,slightly modified jaycar HEI and my home brew optical
distributor.I had the dissy out of the car and spun it up on my 0-3000 rpm
battery drill. I ran the coil lead out to a single plug that was well grounded.
This thing threw out great big fat sparks that varied with the drill
speed.Things are looking GOOD! You can trigger MSnS with a few different
triggers and even reluctor triggering(this however has some drawbacks but most
find it works fine).If you want to ask me anything else about it I'll try to
help out. It should work fine with CDI though I would'nt think it much better
than what I have now.
Cheers Luke.



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#1336 From: "vx255" <vx255@...>
Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:01 am
Subject:: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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Just to throw my 2 cents in, I was turned off megaspark, due to the
pain of setting up the crank triggering and making it work, I'm
swayed to Deltamaax as it will talk to my reluctor dizzy.

Piss easy, as its prebuilt and ready to go, plus I like the idea of
multiple ignition maps.

Thats just me though.

rgds Eddie

--- In oz_ms@..., Stewart Ford <sford@m...> wrote:
>
> AKAIK, no australian cars were delivered with EDIS. they are very
common
> in england, and also pretty common in the US, i was trying to
source some
> aftermarket replacements for a while, and also for someone to send
us a
> bunch of secondhand original units, but the deals never came to
fruition.
>
> i like the idea of megaspark tho.....
> that or deltamax....
> Cya, Stewart
>
>
>  On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Monkey Zu wrote:
> > does anyone know what car in oz i can get the parts for 4-cyl
EDIS off for
> > MS'nEDIS? if at all?
> >
> > Thanks.

#1335 From: Stewart Ford <sford@...>
Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:37 am
Subject:: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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AKAIK, no australian cars were delivered with EDIS. they are very common
in england, and also pretty common in the US, i was trying to source some
aftermarket replacements for a while, and also for someone to send us a
bunch of secondhand original units, but the deals never came to fruition.

i like the idea of megaspark tho.....
that or deltamax....
Cya, Stewart


  On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Monkey Zu wrote:
> does anyone know what car in oz i can get the parts for 4-cyl EDIS off for
> MS'nEDIS? if at all?
>
> Thanks.

#1334 From: "Monkey Zu" <fonefixdirect@...>
Date: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:14 am
Subject:: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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does anyone know what car in oz i can get the parts for 4-cyl EDIS off for
MS'nEDIS? if at all?

Thanks.



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     Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:31:22 -0000
     From: "thechucksterra40" <thebigchuckster@...>
Subject: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?

hi all,

DSE used to have a cheaper (approx $25) HEI kit that used your points (or
hall effect
sensor) to trigger a simple constant dwell circuit that drove your coil -
you got a solid
spark, regardless of engine speed and to a lesser extent, supply V+

It came with a smaller die-cast box (than the universal HEI kits on DSE and
jaycar)

On my old cruddy celica (refused to rev over 4k, buggered rings, more bog
than
paint, etc) it always had a good spark - so it could cope with all the
neglect i threw at
it. Also meant that even with points, you got a stable/reliable/unshifting
advance as
the points were only swithing severla hundred milliamps, not arcing into
oblivion.

unfortunately i've dumped the paperwork it had and my kit went to the
wreckers a
while back.

but if anyone's got some older DSE catalogs, it might be listed with a EA or
Silicon
Chip kit number? its simpler that the HEI unit your probably talking about
but for
reliabel spark it seem passable.

regards,
charles.

--- In oz_ms@..., "Brett Calvert" <bacalv61@y...>
wrote:
  > --- In oz_ms@..., Super Jamie <jamie@s...> wrote:
  > > i'm currently getting some parts together to build a Capacitor
  > Discharge
  > > Ignition kit like in the September 97 Silicon Chip mag, as
<snip>
  > > if you want to learn more about cdi and the kit, see here
  > > http://www.squirrelpf.com/msavr/files/Cap-dis-ignit-CDI.pdf

  > I'm interested in a bit more zap to go with my MS but I haven't yet
  > made up my mind on which way to go. I'll download that file and
have
  > a bit of a read. Anyone got any opinions on what setup is the best
  > option using stock points for switching.

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#1333 From: Nick 'Sharkey' Moore <sharkey@...>
Date: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:58 pm
Subject:: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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On 2004-02-24, Super Jamie wrote:
>
> i'm currently getting some parts together to build a Capacitor Discharge
> Ignition kit like in the September 97 Silicon Chip mag, as altronics,
> dick smith and jaycar have all discontinued their kit for this.

Oddly enough, I've just built the top half of it ... the 300V supply ...
to feed power to my motorcycle's CDIs.  It's a pretty sane circuit,
I didn't have any problems with it.

Sadly, I went and built it on Veroboard, which isn't up to the currents
involved in the MOSFET drivers, and flamed out a couple of tracks
under load.  Didn't seem to do the transformer or the MOSFETs any
harm though.  Oh well, back to the drawing board.  It's worth
checking those current ratings on your PCB design though.

That transformer isn't all that hard to wind either, just boring.

Farnell have all the bits ... see
	 <http://zoic.org/sharkey/moto/efi/ignite.html>

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some days I actually believe I need one.  That is why they are dangerous."
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#1332 From: Super Jamie <jamie@...>
Date: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:03 am
Subject:: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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> Thanx Jamie.
> I'm interested in a bit more zap to go with my MS but I haven't yet
> made up my mind on which way to go. I'll download that file and have
> a bit of a read. Anyone got any opinions on what setup is the best
> option using stock points for switching.
> Brett.

stewart will say megasquirt'n'spark because it's programmable ;) any
know what msns uses to trigger the coil? imagine programmable CDI, that
makes even my mouth water!

J

#1331 From: Super Jamie <jamie@...>
Date: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:51 am
Subject:: Re: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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yes jaycar still sell their hei kit, for about 50 bucks, i actually have
one on the desk now. but that is what's called "transistor assisted
ignition", it passes a small trigger current through the points and
handles the spark duration and coil switching itself. this is great, but
you're still limited to coil charging, and most importantly, maximum
coil power, 12V into 20KV or so. with CDI, no current is stored in the
coil, it is merely used as a step up transformer, changing ~350V into
40KV or so, with a proper coil such as an MSD blaster 2. this allows you
to run a much larger spark gap for better burn. i also like the multiple
sparking capability of the CDI kit, from all reports it gives a smoother
idle if not smoother response across the whole rev range, and improves
emissions (which is but a coincidental advantage)

cheers
Jamie

#1330 From: "thechucksterra40" <thebigchuckster@...>
Date: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:31 am
Subject:: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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hi all,

DSE used to have a cheaper (approx $25) HEI kit that used your points (or hall
effect
sensor) to trigger a simple constant dwell circuit that drove your coil - you
got a solid
spark, regardless of engine speed and to a lesser extent, supply V+

It came with a smaller die-cast box (than the universal HEI kits on DSE and
jaycar)

On my old cruddy celica (refused to rev over 4k, buggered rings, more bog than
paint, etc) it always had a good spark - so it could cope with all the neglect i
threw at
it. Also meant that even with points, you got a stable/reliable/unshifting
advance as
the points were only swithing severla hundred milliamps, not arcing into
oblivion.

unfortunately i've dumped the paperwork it had and my kit went to the wreckers a
while back.

but if anyone's got some older DSE catalogs, it might be listed with a EA or
Silicon
Chip kit number? its simpler that the HEI unit your probably talking about but
for
reliabel spark it seem passable.

regards,
charles.

--- In oz_ms@..., "Brett Calvert" <bacalv61@y...>
wrote:
> --- In oz_ms@..., Super Jamie <jamie@s...> wrote:
> > i'm currently getting some parts together to build a Capacitor
> Discharge
> > Ignition kit like in the September 97 Silicon Chip mag, as
<snip>
> > if you want to learn more about cdi and the kit, see here
> > http://www.squirrelpf.com/msavr/files/Cap-dis-ignit-CDI.pdf

> I'm interested in a bit more zap to go with my MS but I haven't yet
> made up my mind on which way to go. I'll download that file and
have
> a bit of a read. Anyone got any opinions on what setup is the best
> option using stock points for switching.

#1329 From: "Brett Calvert" <bacalv61@...>
Date: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:30 am
Subject:: Re: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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--- In oz_ms@..., Super Jamie <jamie@s...> wrote:
> hi all
>
> i'm currently getting some parts together to build a Capacitor
Discharge
> Ignition kit like in the September 97 Silicon Chip mag, as
altronics,
> dick smith and jaycar have all discontinued their kit for this.
price is
> currently looking to be around 80 bucks for parts, plus metal case,
plus
> postage. i'll be using the professionally made PCB from RCS radio,
so
> it'd not going to be dodgy home crap. is anyone interested? if i
don't
> go ahead with a group buy, i'll make my parts list and order
details
> available, so all the leg work is done for people who are keen
>
> if you want to learn more about cdi and the kit, see here
> http://www.squirrelpf.com/msavr/files/Cap-dis-ignit-CDI.pdf
>
> cheers,
> Jamie

Thanx Jamie.
I'm interested in a bit more zap to go with my MS but I haven't yet
made up my mind on which way to go. I'll download that file and have
a bit of a read. Anyone got any opinions on what setup is the best
option using stock points for switching.
Brett.

#1328 From: Super Jamie <jamie@...>
Date: Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:00 am
Subject:: EOI: Silicon Chip CDI group buy?
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hi all

i'm currently getting some parts together to build a Capacitor Discharge
Ignition kit like in the September 97 Silicon Chip mag, as altronics,
dick smith and jaycar have all discontinued their kit for this. price is
currently looking to be around 80 bucks for parts, plus metal case, plus
postage. i'll be using the professionally made PCB from RCS radio, so
it'd not going to be dodgy home crap. is anyone interested? if i don't
go ahead with a group buy, i'll make my parts list and order details
available, so all the leg work is done for people who are keen

if you want to learn more about cdi and the kit, see here
http://www.squirrelpf.com/msavr/files/Cap-dis-ignit-CDI.pdf

cheers,
Jamie

#1327 From: "vx255" <vx255@...>
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 2:50 am
Subject:: Re: GB4 open for business?
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Yeah, got that thanks Luke,  Sam, no rush mate, have a chat to Stew,
he'll steer you right on what you'll need (noticed your toymods
email addy).

regards Eddie


--- In oz_ms@..., "slow_hemi6" <slow_hemi6@y...>
wrote:
> Hey Eddie did you get my email of what I was after? Or should I
> resend it.
> Cheers Luke (slow_hemi6 at yahoo dot com dot au)
>
> --- In oz_ms@..., "slow_hemi6" <slow_hemi6@y...>
> wrote:
> > --- In oz_ms@..., "vx255" <vx255@y...> wrote:
> > > Guys, wishlist sent to vx255 at yahoo dot com, not on the list!
> > >
> > > If you havent emailed me, you aint included!
> > >
> > > sorry to be a pain, but its easier for everyone.
> > >
> > > rgds Eddie
> > >
> > > --- In oz_ms@..., "vx255" <vx255@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Guys, I've discussed this with Stewie, and if its ok with
> you
> > > > guys, I'll be taking down some details for the next GB.
> > > >
> > > > What I require for those that are interested, is your name,
> > email
> > > > address and what you're looking at getting sent to (vx255 at
> > yahoo
> > > > dot com) my email address.
> > > >
> > > > I'll compile the info, and by the time we have everyones
> > details,
> > > > hopefully, Stew will have completed his dreaded thesis and
> will
> > be
> > > > in a position to transact the group buy again.
> > > >
> > > > We'll also need to sweet talk Gareth into putting his
ordering
> > and
> > > > electus expertise into full swing again.
> > > >
> > > > Me, I'll sit back, Take names and details, drink beer and
tell
> > > Stew
> > > > and Gareth to hurry up until they call me names and stop
> talking
> > > to
> > > > me! (AGAIN)  :D
> > > >
> > > > Also, would anyone be interested in participating in a
> DELTAMAX
> > > > ignition controller group buy? for those who are unfamiliar
> with
> > > > one, there is a PDF in the files section, this thing
> > will "speak"
> > > to
> > > > points, reluctor, hall effect etc, and will reference to a
map
> > > > sensor so it will respond to boost etc, also has dual maps,
> > which
> > > > could be handy for some of us, who use lpg, or premium fuel
> when
> > > > available etc.  it currently retails for $330, is engine bay
> > > > mountable, pc programmable, and ready made.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know what you guys think?
> > > >
> > > > Any questions please post to the list, any ordering, send
off
> > the
> > > > above mentioned details to me.
> > > >
> > > > rgds Eddie

#1326 From: Sam De Francesco <sam@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:15 am
Subject:: Re: just joined oz_ms
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Thanks, I'll quickly sort out exactly what I'm after and email Eddie.

sam

Luke wrote:

>Your in luck as Group buy 4 (GB4) is taking orders now.You have to send what
you will be after and email address to Eddie (vx255 at yahoo dot com).I will
suggest you read post 1319.
>You will probably only want a complete MS kit and stimulator kit.Some get the
relay booard gear but I made my own.
>Cheers Luke.
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#1325 From: "slow_hemi6" <slow_hemi6@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:00 am
Subject:: Re: GB4 open for business?
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Hey Eddie did you get my email of what I was after? Or should I
resend it.
Cheers Luke (slow_hemi6 at yahoo dot com dot au)

--- In oz_ms@..., "slow_hemi6" <slow_hemi6@y...>
wrote:
> --- In oz_ms@..., "vx255" <vx255@y...> wrote:
> > Guys, wishlist sent to vx255 at yahoo dot com, not on the list!
> >
> > If you havent emailed me, you aint included!
> >
> > sorry to be a pain, but its easier for everyone.
> >
> > rgds Eddie
> >
> > --- In oz_ms@..., "vx255" <vx255@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi Guys, I've discussed this with Stewie, and if its ok with
you
> > > guys, I'll be taking down some details for the next GB.
> > >
> > > What I require for those that are interested, is your name,
> email
> > > address and what you're looking at getting sent to (vx255 at
> yahoo
> > > dot com) my email address.
> > >
> > > I'll compile the info, and by the time we have everyones
> details,
> > > hopefully, Stew will have completed his dreaded thesis and
will
> be
> > > in a position to transact the group buy again.
> > >
> > > We'll also need to sweet talk Gareth into putting his ordering
> and
> > > electus expertise into full swing again.
> > >
> > > Me, I'll sit back, Take names and details, drink beer and tell
> > Stew
> > > and Gareth to hurry up until they call me names and stop
talking
> > to
> > > me! (AGAIN)  :D
> > >
> > > Also, would anyone be interested in participating in a
DELTAMAX
> > > ignition controller group buy? for those who are unfamiliar
with
> > > one, there is a PDF in the files section, this thing
> will "speak"
> > to
> > > points, reluctor, hall effect etc, and will reference to a map
> > > sensor so it will respond to boost etc, also has dual maps,
> which
> > > could be handy for some of us, who use lpg, or premium fuel
when
> > > available etc.  it currently retails for $330, is engine bay
> > > mountable, pc programmable, and ready made.
> > >
> > > Let me know what you guys think?
> > >
> > > Any questions please post to the list, any ordering, send off
> the
> > > above mentioned details to me.
> > >
> > > rgds Eddie

#1324 From: "slow_hemi6" <slow_hemi6@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:51 am
Subject:: Re: GB4 open for business?
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--- In oz_ms@..., "vx255" <vx255@y...> wrote:
> Guys, wishlist sent to vx255 at yahoo dot com, not on the list!
>
> If you havent emailed me, you aint included!
>
> sorry to be a pain, but its easier for everyone.
>
> rgds Eddie
>
> --- In oz_ms@..., "vx255" <vx255@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Guys, I've discussed this with Stewie, and if its ok with you
> > guys, I'll be taking down some details for the next GB.
> >
> > What I require for those that are interested, is your name,
email
> > address and what you're looking at getting sent to (vx255 at
yahoo
> > dot com) my email address.
> >
> > I'll compile the info, and by the time we have everyones
details,
> > hopefully, Stew will have completed his dreaded thesis and will
be
> > in a position to transact the group buy again.
> >
> > We'll also need to sweet talk Gareth into putting his ordering
and
> > electus expertise into full swing again.
> >
> > Me, I'll sit back, Take names and details, drink beer and tell
> Stew
> > and Gareth to hurry up until they call me names and stop talking
> to
> > me! (AGAIN)  :D
> >
> > Also, would anyone be interested in participating in a DELTAMAX
> > ignition controller group buy? for those who are unfamiliar with
> > one, there is a PDF in the files section, this thing
will "speak"
> to
> > points, reluctor, hall effect etc, and will reference to a map
> > sensor so it will respond to boost etc, also has dual maps,
which
> > could be handy for some of us, who use lpg, or premium fuel when
> > available etc.  it currently retails for $330, is engine bay
> > mountable, pc programmable, and ready made.
> >
> > Let me know what you guys think?
> >
> > Any questions please post to the list, any ordering, send off
the
> > above mentioned details to me.
> >
> > rgds Eddie

#1323 From: Luke <slow_hemi6@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:42 am
Subject:: Re: just joined oz_ms
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Your in luck as Group buy 4 (GB4) is taking orders now.You have to send what you
will be after and email address to Eddie (vx255 at yahoo dot com).I will suggest
you read post 1319.
You will probably only want a complete MS kit and stimulator kit.Some get the
relay booard gear but I made my own.
Cheers Luke.



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#1322 From: Sam De Francesco <sam@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:24 am
Subject:: just joined oz_ms
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Hey all,

Just a quick note to say hi, as I just joined this mailing list.

I own a 4AGE sprinter, currently running standard computer but with Toda
cams (264/256). I'm looking at replacing the standard ECU with a MS. Not
sure what to do about ignition yet, I'll have a read through the
archives before asking any dumb questions.

I'm also interested in a group buy, so put my name down for one also.

rgrds
sam


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