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Re: Re: [ozeyescheme] Good news

Hi again Jenny,
Yes but from what I have read of the scheme Dr Robertson envisions only CEA clear dog would be bred from so automatically that will reduce the gene pool so therefore it is a form of controlling the breeding. If only clear dogs were used and keeping in mind Dr Robertson would have set the criteria, how many stud dogs would that leave for people to use and I'm not just talking about Shelties. We all know how many valuable lines were lost in the UK after they wiped out any dogs that had mild CEA.
I don't want to sound mistrustful but how this scheme was bought in worries me and no matter how much assurance we receive will the powers that be change their minds at a future date. Once they have their data base set up how easy would it be to set what ever standards they want for breeding.
At the end of the day it is the breeders that are the guardians of the breed. They should be the ones that set the standard and they take a lot more in to consideration when breeding a litter than an eye test. It is only one factor in many when planning a mating.
Regards,
Rosemary
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New Zealand
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:13 PM
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Hi Leonie,
 
Yes Dr Robertson did say you only had one ACES eye vet, but they were negotiating for him to travel between both islands on a regular basis so that the scheme can start over there.
 
Christina Rafton who was representing the ANKC in the absence of Keith Irwin confirmed that the ANKC will NOT be bringing in any regulations whereby the the ANKC will dictate to the breeders which studs or dams breeders have to use.
 
regards
Jenny Tolley
Tolltoonie Shetland Sheepdogs
 
 
 
Hi Jenny,
 "What ever affects Aust. will surely affect us here in New Zealand."
"Dr Robertson did mention that they already had a ACES Ophthamologist in New Zealand and that the scheme would be taking effect over there and that indeed the scheme will eventually also be taken up in all of Southern Asia."
I think we have ONE 'ACES' Ophthalmologist for the both Islands, (the other canine Ophthalmologists do not qualify at this stage), and we haven't just a proposed ACES scheme  to contend with but also an Inherited Disorders Scheme in the pipeline.
The whole scene is overwhelming for such a small country and mind boggling to the extent that I envisage  in a few years our HOBBY of breeding our chosen breed may be eroded to the extent that a panel of vets with a vested interest and no idea of Standards will be deciding our breeds future.
I think there is also a danger of the schemes eventually becoming compulsory.
I'm thinking on the lines of the German Shepherd breeders in Germany and I think the sheltie breeders over there are also "told what to do with their breeding / especially breeding blue merles".!!
JMHO.
Leonie Clarke
Prosper Shelties
New Zealand



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Hi All, Thank you for setting up this list for a honest and frank discussion on ACES and I suspect more scheme's in the future. I look forward to some...
Rosemary Richards
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Apr 18, 2007
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Hi Rosemary What ever affects Aust. will surely affect us here in New Zealand. Dr Robertson did mention that they already had a ACES Ophthamologist in New...
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Apr 19, 2007
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Hi Jenny, "What ever affects Aust. will surely affect us here in New Zealand." "Dr Robertson did mention that they already had a ACES Ophthamologist in New...
Prosper
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Apr 19, 2007
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Hi Leonie, Yes Dr Robertson did say you only had one ACES eye vet, but they were negotiating for him to travel between both islands on a regular basis so that...
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Apr 19, 2007
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Hi Jenny, Now I am confused because I have been assured by a NZKC exec member that ACES will NOT be coming to New Zealand. Did Dr Robertson state that ACES...
Rosemary Richards
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Apr 19, 2007
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Jenny What Rosemary has said re ACES coming to NZ is correct - I've had it confirmed personally from two NZKC Executive Councillors (one being the chair of the...
Barbara Hearn
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Apr 19, 2007
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Hi again Jenny, Yes but from what I have read of the scheme Dr Robertson envisions only CEA clear dog would be bred from so automatically that will reduce the...
Rosemary Richards
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Apr 19, 2007
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Hi Rosemary Now I am confused because I have been assured by a NZKC exec member that ACES will NOT be coming to New Zealand. Did Dr Robertson state that ACES...
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Apr 19, 2007
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Hi Barbara and Rosemary, We can only report what was said at the meeting. IMHO Bruce Robertson is under the impression that some sort of eye scheme will be...
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