Hi Peter
I have a litter of 5 to be tested in about 5 weeks time, I rang Jeff
Smith to find out when he was coming to Canberra and the costs. Here
is the break up:
$10 ACES Certificate
$150 for the first 1 - 3 pups
$37 per pup after that.
I asked if I could have individual certificates and got told yes, we
will wait and see how much info I get and if I get individual
certificates or not.

Jacqui
Eridor Smooth Collies

--- In ozeyescheme@..., "Peter Cook , Patrick
Migliaccio" <balinfern.collies@...> wrote:
>
> Just thought it might be of general interest to tell you my
> experience of seeking eye testing with Mike Bernays a ACES
registered
> eye specialist in Brisbane.
>
> I have only ever used him and we have had a somewhat strained
> relationship at times in the past. I travel from Lismore to
Brisbane
> to see him.
>
> I have two pups to test shortly when they are six weeks of age. I
> rang to ask whether I could get individual certificates and to
> confirm that I could get full details of the level of affect of
any
> problems.
>
> It took a few days for his assistant to get back to me to say if
they
> had the standard ACES litter test it would cost $49.50 per pup but
> the results would be on one form and would only identify whether
they
> were affected by CEA or not. Yes I could have separate forms but
they
> would cost $66 but would not show the degree of affectation of any
> CEA problem or otherwise. I said this was not satisfactory for a
> breed like collie rough as the vast majority were affected so in
> effect the certificate was worthless. I needed full details for
each
> pup for new owners and to decide how they should be registered and
if
> they could be used in my future breeding program.
>
> Mike Bernays then rang back to ask what I wanted and I explained
> again. He said his assistant misunderstood me and that if I paid
$66
> per pup I could get an individual certificate per pup which had
full
> details of the degree of affectation of any problem. I said I was
was
> very pleased to hear this because I was concerned that I would not
> get this because the ACES doumcntaion says clearly that the ACES
eye
> specialist would not discuss the results or details? He chose not
to
> specifically answer this point and I let it be.
>
> He was very business like and said 'you are the one who had
> discussions with Bruce Robertson sometime ago about CEA testing
> scheme'. This was in 2000/1 so how he knew and remembered that I
> don't know. Robertson cut all communication with me in 2001 when I
> tried to suggest to him that he needed to work with long term
> experienced breeders who had testing results and breeding outcomes
> over many years(not me!) to work out the details of his ACES
scheme.
> He was not interested and his ideas at that time are not
particularly
> different to what his final piece of work details! In essence if
> affected don't use in a breeding program!
>
> Anyway I will get what I need dispite it not being in accord with
the
> written word of the ACES! Seems there is the ACES scheme and then
> there is what they actually do!
>
> I'd be interested in what others are getting from ACES registered
eye
> specialists in Sydney for example? That is what information you
are
> getting on your certificates (apart from CEA affected or not) and
the
> less important issue of how much you are being charged?
>
> Best wishes
> Peter
> Balinfern
>