Ok Boys and Girls of the dog World,
You want your voice to be heard, after the BBC has decided not to air
Crufts unless under their terms(banning 14 breeds from the show) , I
think its time we do what the animal activists do A BOYCOTT of all
English Products remember BP is British Petroleum
Regards
Leanne
I for one am very happy ACES has been ratified. I cannot understand why anyone would want to use any other shceme, when this schem stops all the various forgeries that have been taking place for many years.
I have had quite in depth discusssions with Dr Roberston, and I understand the scheme will over time become more user friendly, but as it stands I would not even consider an eye test unless by an ACES member.
And for those that do not know, I have already had one of these ACES tests re-examined by Dr Robertson himself and had it overturned. But at least, this is a true test of the system, and not just a second opinion, or a thord, until I get the reading I want!!
Cheers
Robyn Bennett
Kilgarrin Lowchen - Exporting quality Lowchen to the world.
To: ozeyescheme@... From: roughsandsmooths@... Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:14:41 +0000 Subject: [ozeyescheme] ACES UPDATE
Sorry that my message came through twice. When I first came into this list today, I sent through a number of replies only to have them not appear. I then discovered that I had been bounced (as the owner of the list I had not been expecting that) and it took me forever to get it but up and running so I could post again.......and then I managed to get in two.......
Anyway back to the important stuff:
This is a quick update for those that haven't already caught up with the October ANKC conference outcomes.
Even though I put forward a petition to have ACES abolished (which by the way was sent to the TCA to be included with other letters from the Tas Collie and Shetland Sheepdog Club to go to the ANKC conference) the real problem was the documents that support and are attached to this this Scheme.
(For those that want a refresher you can find all the relevant stuff in our files on this site) A summary of the ANKC minutes state: 3.6 Australian Canine Eye Scheme (ACES) It was resolved for the ANKC to request further changes to the wording of the ACES documents.
These changes together with other concerns are to be addressed by the ANKC President at a meeting with the AVA Ophthalmologists Panel.
I am not sure exactly what or which "requested changes" will be asked for – however The Tasmanian Collie and Shetland Sheepdog club will be chasing this up through our Tas Delegate and the Tas Health Committee and we will also be awaiting to hear the results of the meeting of the ANKC president and the AVA Oph. Panel.
But at least the ANKC has noted and obviously agrees that there are issues with the documentation to this scheme.
Cheers Mim
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Sorry that my message came through twice. When I first came into this list today, I sent through a number of replies only to have them not appear. I then discovered that I had been bounced (as the owner of the list I had not been expecting that) and it took me forever to get it but up and running so I could post again.......and then I managed to get in two.......
Anyway back to the important stuff:
This is a quick update for those that haven't already caught up with the October ANKC conference outcomes.
Even though I put forward a petition to have ACES abolished (which by the way was sent to the TCA to be included with other letters from the Tas Collie and Shetland Sheepdog Club to go to the ANKC conference) the real problem was the documents that support and are attached to this this Scheme.
(For those that want a refresher you can find all the relevant stuff in our files on this site)
A summary of the ANKC minutes state:
3.6 Australian Canine Eye Scheme (ACES)
It was resolved for the ANKC to request further changes to the wording of the ACES documents.
These changes together with other concerns are to be addressed by the ANKC President at a meeting with the AVA Ophthalmologists Panel.
I am not sure exactly what or which "requested changes" will be asked for – however The Tasmanian Collie and Shetland Sheepdog club will be chasing this up through our Tas Delegate and the Tas Health Committee and we will also be awaiting to hear the results of the meeting of the ANKC president and the AVA Oph. Panel.
But at least the ANKC has noted and obviously agrees that there are issues with the documentation to this scheme.
OK, OK. I am the owner of this list, but it has be an unmoderated list
as I wanted it to be easily accessible to everyone. However I have now
changed it so that only members can send to the list and you have to
now apply for membership if you don't already have it.
I also admit it has been a while since I looked at this site and I
apologise for an inconvenience anyone may have suffered due to this. I
will be more vigilant in checking and trying to keep it spam free in
future.
I will be posting an update re ACES shortly.
In the meantime please feel free to use this list to communicate any
relevant "dog world" news or issues.
Cheers Mim
OK, OK. I am the owner of this list, but it has be an unmoderated list
as I wanted it to be easily accessible to everyone. However I have now
changed it so that only members can send to the list and you have to
now apply for membership if you don't already have it.
I also admit it has been a while since I looked at this site and I
apologise for an inconvenience anyone may have suffered due to this. I
will be more vigilant in checking and trying to keep it spam free in
future.
I will be posting an update re ACES shortly.
In the meantime please feel free to use this list to communicate any
relevant "dog world" news or issues.
Cheers Mim
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Hi Peter,
> There are a number of sections in the agenda and attachements that
> cover CEA/ACES in a variety of ways. In particular two attachements
> from Karen Hedburg that relate to control of CEA are of huge
> significance to those of us with CEA affected breeds and should be
> read and digested by all! If I get confirmation of the public nature
> of these documents I will attempt to provide them here.
Yes, the BBPs (Best Breeding Practice) documents are dynamite. These
documents are actually more or less what was submitted to the Victorian Govt
dept as the suggested Code of Practice in order for Dogs Victoria breeders
to gain exemption from the legislation. They need to be stripped down to
their bare bones and discussed by all breeders that have a stake in any
breeds affected by the proposals; diseases referred to include CEA, PRA,
vWD, HC.
> In relation to concern in VIC that CEA affected breeds should have
> all litters checked I personally cannot see why this is a problem.
> Frankly anyone breeding with a CEA affected breed who is not breeding
> DNA Clear to DNA Clear (and that possibility does not exist for most
> of us!) should test all pups? Most of us do already as collie rough
> breeders? Let's fight the big battles we need to and not the ones
> that are not winable?
I totally agree that all collie breeders should be litter screening, however
the concern regarding the proposed Code of Practice in regard to the
Victorian State legislation is that the use of the word "must" makes it an
offence under the Act to not have all puppies screened prior to 8 weeks of
age by an ACES authorised ophthalmologist. As stated in the Dogs Victoria
response, it appears to be a restraint of trade to dictate that only one
particular group of specialists are authorised to litter screen under the
Act. I also believe that due to the low number of ACES authorised
practitioners available, it may be physically impossible to fulfill these
proposed requirements within the time frame allowable.
Regards,
Sylvia
Thanks Slyvia
Your are NOT poking your nose in! Many thanks. Like you it seems I
have also been given access to the full agenda of the ANKC/NBC
meeting in June from which you have added a file here. I am currently
seeking confirmation that the document is not confidential althouigh
I cannot see why it should be and I am pleased to hear your advice
that it is public.
There are a number of sections in the agenda and attachements that
cover CEA/ACES in a variety of ways. In particular two attachements
from Karen Hedburg that relate to control of CEA are of huge
significance to those of us with CEA affected breeds and should be
read and digested by all! If I get confirmation of the public nature
of these documents I will attempt to provide them here.
In relation to concern in VIC that CEA affected breeds should have
all litters checked I personally cannot see why this is a problem.
Frankly anyone breeding with a CEA affected breed who is not breeding
DNA Clear to DNA Clear (and that possibility does not exist for most
of us!) should test all pups? Most of us do already as collie rough
breeders? Let's fight the big battles we need to and not the ones
that are not winable?
Best wishes
Peter
Balinfern Collies
--- In ozeyescheme@..., "Sylvia Power" <zenchel@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Peter and all,
>
> Please forgive me for poking my nose in at this point, however I
was just
> sitting at the computer trying to condense, sort out and type up a
document
> to send out to our state breed clubs in order to answer just the
questions
> you are asking, in time for their response prior to the National
Breed
> Council Conference June 28.
>
> I will put it down in point form so it's as clear as can be for
everyone.
>
> (1) Yes, there have been sustantial amendments to the original
Information
> For Owners and Rules And Procedures documents.
>
> (2) However, there are still several issues that have previously
been listed
> in several places by many different groups as "points of concern".
>
> (3) Earlier in April Dogs Victoria ran an information seminar for
people
> that had concerns about ACES. Following this seminar Dogs Victoria
wrote the
> letter that I have uploaded into the files - this letter has been
sent to
> all state canine councils and the ANKC. It is listed in
correspondence for
> the NBC Conference and will also be on the agenda of the full ANKC
> conference in October. I believe there have been similar concerns
voiced by
> Dogs NSW, CCCQ and TCA.
>
> (4) I have also uploaded the motion for the NBC Conference in
relation to
> ACES that the National Labrador Retriever Council has moved. As you
can see,
> this motion contains very specific points, however there are more
general
> concerns that will probably still exist, even if the motion is
carried and
> achieves its aims eventually. As a Labrador person, I would really
> appreciate anybody and everybody informing their NBC Conference
delegates of
> their views on this motion, so there can be a knowledgeable and
constructive
> debate on it at the Conference.
>
> (5) People from other states may not realise that ACES has a lot
more
> implications for Victorians than previously - the following phrase
is
> written in the suggested Code of Practice to be attached to the
State Govt
> legislation covering breeding from dogs that can suffer from CEA
(amongst
> other diseases).
>
> "With Collie Eye Anomaly (CEA) the approved breeding program must
submit
> all litters before 8 weeks of age for certification by
ophthalmologists
> appointed to the AVA-ANKC ACES Panel, to identify and remove any
puppy that
> is adversely affected by the condition."
>
> This Code of Practice has not yet been finalised and the eventual
outcome is
> anybody's guess, however this is a quote from the relevant section
in the
> response from Dogs Victoria.
>
> "DOGS Victoria strongly opposes the inclusion of the requirement
that all
> litters must be submitted before 8 weeks of age for certification
by
> ophthalmologists appointed to the AVA/ANKC ACES Panel; to identify
and
> remove any puppy that is adversely affected by CEA.
>
>
>
> We believe it to be an unnecessary restraint to require litter
screening, or
> any other screening, to be performed exclusively by any particular
group of
> specialists."
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or comments about all
of this.
> By the way, I have obtained advice that putting the documents that
I have
> uploaded into the public domain is perfectly acceptable, as the
entire
> agenda of the NBC Conference (which includes these documents)
should be in
> the process of being distributed to all state clubs (and their
members) by
> the National Breed Council secretaries.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sylvia Power
>
>
>
>
> > Dear Mim and Leah
> >
> > May I impose upon you both to give me/list members an update on
where
> > we are at with ACES?
> >
> > When you live in the country and don't get to mix in person with
> > those involved/informed you only get 'bits' of the current
situation.
> >
> > I have heard Roberston has amended his documentation to
remove/amend
> > ALL the text we were concerned about? Is that true and has the
> > revised ACES documentation been subseqeuently endorsed by the
ANKC?
> > (That would mean I assume it would have had to be put to all breed
> > clubs and their NBCs which I have seen no evidence of).
> >
> > As there is an ANKC Combined NBC Meeting in June in Sydney it
would
> > be good for all of us that have an interest in this matter to
ensure
> > that our NBC is fully aware of what is happening and are being
> > proactive in ensuring that our concerns are being addressed.
> >
> > My email may show my lack current understanding of what is
happening
> > and for those who are better informed please accept my apologies.
> > However for those of us who remain concerned but 'in the dark'
may I
> > ask you to let us know what you know of the situation?
> >
> > With best wishes
> > Peter Cook
> > Balinfern Collies
> > balinfern.com
> >
>
Hi Peter and all,
Please forgive me for poking my nose in at this point, however I was just
sitting at the computer trying to condense, sort out and type up a document
to send out to our state breed clubs in order to answer just the questions
you are asking, in time for their response prior to the National Breed
Council Conference June 28.
I will put it down in point form so it's as clear as can be for everyone.
(1) Yes, there have been sustantial amendments to the original Information
For Owners and Rules And Procedures documents.
(2) However, there are still several issues that have previously been listed
in several places by many different groups as "points of concern".
(3) Earlier in April Dogs Victoria ran an information seminar for people
that had concerns about ACES. Following this seminar Dogs Victoria wrote the
letter that I have uploaded into the files - this letter has been sent to
all state canine councils and the ANKC. It is listed in correspondence for
the NBC Conference and will also be on the agenda of the full ANKC
conference in October. I believe there have been similar concerns voiced by
Dogs NSW, CCCQ and TCA.
(4) I have also uploaded the motion for the NBC Conference in relation to
ACES that the National Labrador Retriever Council has moved. As you can see,
this motion contains very specific points, however there are more general
concerns that will probably still exist, even if the motion is carried and
achieves its aims eventually. As a Labrador person, I would really
appreciate anybody and everybody informing their NBC Conference delegates of
their views on this motion, so there can be a knowledgeable and constructive
debate on it at the Conference.
(5) People from other states may not realise that ACES has a lot more
implications for Victorians than previously - the following phrase is
written in the suggested Code of Practice to be attached to the State Govt
legislation covering breeding from dogs that can suffer from CEA (amongst
other diseases).
"With Collie Eye Anomaly (CEA) the approved breeding program must submit
all litters before 8 weeks of age for certification by ophthalmologists
appointed to the AVA-ANKC ACES Panel, to identify and remove any puppy that
is adversely affected by the condition."
This Code of Practice has not yet been finalised and the eventual outcome is
anybody's guess, however this is a quote from the relevant section in the
response from Dogs Victoria.
"DOGS Victoria strongly opposes the inclusion of the requirement that all
litters must be submitted before 8 weeks of age for certification by
ophthalmologists appointed to the AVA/ANKC ACES Panel; to identify and
remove any puppy that is adversely affected by CEA.
We believe it to be an unnecessary restraint to require litter screening, or
any other screening, to be performed exclusively by any particular group of
specialists."
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments about all of this.
By the way, I have obtained advice that putting the documents that I have
uploaded into the public domain is perfectly acceptable, as the entire
agenda of the NBC Conference (which includes these documents) should be in
the process of being distributed to all state clubs (and their members) by
the National Breed Council secretaries.
Regards,
Sylvia Power
> Dear Mim and Leah
>
> May I impose upon you both to give me/list members an update on where
> we are at with ACES?
>
> When you live in the country and don't get to mix in person with
> those involved/informed you only get 'bits' of the current situation.
>
> I have heard Roberston has amended his documentation to remove/amend
> ALL the text we were concerned about? Is that true and has the
> revised ACES documentation been subseqeuently endorsed by the ANKC?
> (That would mean I assume it would have had to be put to all breed
> clubs and their NBCs which I have seen no evidence of).
>
> As there is an ANKC Combined NBC Meeting in June in Sydney it would
> be good for all of us that have an interest in this matter to ensure
> that our NBC is fully aware of what is happening and are being
> proactive in ensuring that our concerns are being addressed.
>
> My email may show my lack current understanding of what is happening
> and for those who are better informed please accept my apologies.
> However for those of us who remain concerned but 'in the dark' may I
> ask you to let us know what you know of the situation?
>
> With best wishes
> Peter Cook
> Balinfern Collies
> balinfern.com
>
Dear Mim and Leah
May I impose upon you both to give me/list members an update on where
we are at with ACES?
When you live in the country and don't get to mix in person with
those involved/informed you only get 'bits' of the current situation.
I have heard Roberston has amended his documentation to remove/amend
ALL the text we were concerned about? Is that true and has the
revised ACES documentation been subseqeuently endorsed by the ANKC?
(That would mean I assume it would have had to be put to all breed
clubs and their NBCs which I have seen no evidence of).
As there is an ANKC Combined NBC Meeting in June in Sydney it would
be good for all of us that have an interest in this matter to ensure
that our NBC is fully aware of what is happening and are being
proactive in ensuring that our concerns are being addressed.
My email may show my lack current understanding of what is happening
and for those who are better informed please accept my apologies.
However for those of us who remain concerned but 'in the dark' may I
ask you to let us know what you know of the situation?
With best wishes
Peter Cook
Balinfern Collies
balinfern.com
Sorry everyone, I hit the wrong button and sent this email to the wrong list.
Jenny Tolley
Congratulations to Sue & Karen Lishman for Louanda Forbidden Dream becoming eligible for entry into the Register of Merit Australia as the dam of 5 Champions.
As soon as the titles of her progeny have been verified she will formally be entered and a Certificate will be sent to commemorate this achievement.
Congratulations to Sue & Karen Lishman for Louanda Forbidden Dream becoming eligible for entry into the Register of Merit Australia as the dam of 5 Champions.
As soon as the titles of her progeny have been verified she will formally be entered and a Certificate will be sent to commemorate this achievement.
Hi Cath
I havent seen the ammendments, are they published online any where?
Hopefully we should see them in our next club newsletters.
Jacqui
Eridor Smooth Collies
--- In ozeyescheme@..., "Cath Hess" <wyliebcs1@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> Has anyone seen the amendments to the ACES Scheme from Robertson.
>
> This from a guy who cant even diagnose CEA in a Border Collie.
>
> Calls himself a specialist vet!!
>
> And he is going to be the head of ACES.
>
> UGHHHH!!!!
>
> I pity the Victorians with there new legislation why doesnt it hit
the
> Designer Dog Breeders and not the registered breeders that are
doing
> the right thing.
>
> Cath and the crew
> Wylie Border Collies and Australian Shepherds
> www.wyliekennels.com
>
Hi All
Has anyone seen the amendments to the ACES Scheme from Robertson.
This from a guy who cant even diagnose CEA in a Border Collie.
Calls himself a specialist vet!!
And he is going to be the head of ACES.
UGHHHH!!!!
I pity the Victorians with there new legislation why doesnt it hit the
Designer Dog Breeders and not the registered breeders that are doing
the right thing.
Cath and the crew
Wylie Border Collies and Australian Shepherds
www.wyliekennels.com
I assume you have no problem with me forwarding this on to Sheltie lists that I’m on.
Cheers Julia,
Perth, Western Australia.
From:ozeyescheme@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:ozeyescheme@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Pauline Freeman Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 5:31 AM To:OzShow@yahoogroups.com; ozeyescheme@yahoogroups.com.au; rarergundogspanielclub@yahoogroups.com.au; cockertales@yahoogroups.com; gundog; margaret Joyce Subject: [ozeyescheme] Meeting last night
Good morning all - and keep up the letters to the pollies- A number of observers sat in on the meeting and a working party was formed from 2 of our observers - Sue Huebner and Jan Cooke as well as Doug Ford Peter Frost and John Cassar. This committee has the power to co opt people to help but the main thing now is that they have to meet again on monday and have everything ready . Various people have been assigned various part of the bill to ananlyse but his will not stop individuals helping- all correspondence to jansilk@alphalink.com.au . The Bruce Robinson letter is the sort of rebuttal and information we are looking for so if anyone has any scientific papers re inherited diseases in dogs and testing proceedures and what the clubs are doing could they please forward it to Jan asap.Similarly any other information re the dangerous dogs,the powers of the councils Tail docking debarking etc please send over.Gerri Greig has been in contact with the vets and there are nearly 200 Non AVA vets in Victoria who have never had a voice before - these vets deserve our support - more on this later as this Bill is our number one priority!The VCA is talking of hiring a lobbyist - I think the dog world as a whole needs a lobbyist and we also need a watchdog to warn us when bills llike this are being planned !
Pauline Freeman - and thanks to the people that came out last night and to all those who are supporting us in this fight to save Victorian dogdom .
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I assume you have no problem with me
forwarding this on to Sheltie lists that I’m on.
Cheers Julia,
Perth, Western Australia.
From:ozeyescheme@... [mailto:ozeyescheme@...] On Behalf Of Pauline Freeman Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007
5:31 AM To: OzShow@yahoogroups.com; ozeyescheme@...;
rarergundogspanielclub@...; cockertales@yahoogroups.com; gundog;
margaret Joyce Subject: [ozeyescheme] Meeting
last night
Good morning all - and keep up the letters to the pollies- A
number of observers sat in on the meeting and a working party was formed from 2
of our observers - Sue Huebner and Jan Cooke as well as Doug Ford Peter Frost
and John Cassar. This committee has the power to co opt people to help but the
main thing now is that they have to meet again on monday and have everything
ready . Various people have been assigned various part of the bill to ananlyse
but his will not stop individuals helping- all correspondence to jansilk@alphalink.com.au . The
Bruce Robinson letter is the sort of rebuttal and information we are looking
for so if anyone has any scientific papers re inherited diseases in dogs and
testing proceedures and what the clubs are doing could they please forward it
to Jan asap.Similarly any other information re the dangerous dogs,the powers of
the councils Tail docking debarking etc please send over.Gerri Greig has been
in contact with the vets and there are nearly 200 Non AVA vets in Victoria who
have never had a voice before - these vets deserve our support - more on this
later as this Bill is our number one priority!The VCA is talking of hiring a
lobbyist - I think the dog world as a whole needs a lobbyist and we also need a
watchdog to warn us when bills llike this are being planned !
Pauline Freeman - and thanks to the people that
came out last night and to all those who are supporting us in
this fight to save Victorian dogdom .
Thank you for the news, Pauline.
I have had a couple of people ask me privately if I knew about the
legislation coming into place considering my post RE: Can We Afford
to be Fence Sitters. No, I didn't know. This was just an unhappy co-
incidence. However I had been expecting something like this and so
have others - only we thought it would happen first in NSW and that
is where members have been checking to see if anything was on
parlimentary/council agendas etc. We were not looking in Victoria.
Pity as we might have found out about it a little earlier.
Does anyone know how this got to be a legislative issue in the first
place?
Cheers mim
--- In ozeyescheme@..., "Pauline Freeman"
<sunfire@...> wrote:
>
> Good morning all - and keep up the letters to the pollies- A number
of observers sat in on the meeting and a working party was formed
from 2 of our observers - Sue Huebner and Jan Cooke as well as Doug
Ford Peter Frost and John Cassar. This committee has the power to co
opt people to help but the main thing now is that they have to meet
again on monday and have everything ready . Various people have been
assigned various part of the bill to ananlyse but his will not stop
individuals helping- all correspondence to jansilk@... . The Bruce
Robinson letter is the sort of rebuttal and information we are
looking for so if anyone has any scientific papers re inherited
diseases in dogs and testing proceedures and what the clubs are doing
could they please forward it to Jan asap.Similarly any other
information re the dangerous dogs,the powers of the councils Tail
docking debarking etc please send over.Gerri Greig has been in
contact with the vets and there are nearly 200 Non AVA vets in
Victoria who have never had a voice before - these vets deserve our
support - more on this later as this Bill is our number one priority!
The VCA is talking of hiring a lobbyist - I think the dog world as a
whole needs a lobbyist and we also need a watchdog to warn us when
bills llike this are being planned !
> Pauline Freeman - and thanks to the people that came out last
night and to all those who are supporting us in this fight to save
Victorian dogdom .
>
Good morning all - and keep up the letters to the pollies- A number of observers sat in on the meeting and a working party was formed from 2 of our observers - Sue Huebner and Jan Cooke as well as Doug Ford Peter Frost and John Cassar. This committee has the power to co opt people to help but the main thing now is that they have to meet again on monday and have everything ready . Various people have been assigned various part of the bill to ananlyse but his will not stop individuals helping- all correspondence to jansilk@... . The Bruce Robinson letter is the sort of rebuttal and information we are looking for so if anyone has any scientific papers re inherited diseases in dogs and testing proceedures and what the clubs are doing could they please forward it to Jan asap.Similarly any other information re the dangerous dogs,the powers of the councils Tail docking debarking etc please send over.Gerri Greig has been in contact with the vets and there are nearly 200 Non AVA vets in Victoria who have never had a voice before - these vets deserve our support - more on this later as this Bill is our number one priority!The VCA is talking of hiring a lobbyist - I think the dog world as a whole needs a lobbyist and we also need a watchdog to warn us when bills llike this are being planned !
Pauline Freeman - and thanks to the people that came out last night and to all those who are supporting us in this fight to save Victorian dogdom .
Any chance you can let us know what happen at the meeting tomorrow?
Cheers Mim
--- In ozeyescheme@yahoogroups.com.au, "Pauline Freeman" <sunfire@...> wrote: > > In case anyone has missed it there will be a public meeting - open to all - after the management meeting tonight at 7 pm approx - see you there Pauline Freeman >
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Any chance you can let us know what happen at the meeting tomorrow?
Cheers Mim
--- In ozeyescheme@yahoogroups.com.au, "Pauline Freeman" <sunfire@...> wrote: > > In case anyone has missed it there will be a public meeting - open to all - after the management meeting tonight at 7 pm approx - see you there Pauline Freeman >
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Subject: Fw: Please forward, it has been confirmed by Telstra
& Australia Police
Please pass this on, it has been confirmed
by Telstra & Australia Police.
I got a call last night from an individual identifying himself as an
AT&T Service technician who was conducting a test on our telephone
lines. He stated that to complete the test I should touch nine
(9),zero ( 0), hash (#) and then hang up.
Luckily, I was suspicious and refused. Upon contacting the telephone
company, I was informed that by pushing 90#, you give the requesting
individual full access to your telephone line, which allows them to
place long distance telephone calls billed to your home phone
number. I was further informed that this scam has been originating
from many of the local gaols/prisons.
DO NOT press 90# for ANYONE. PLEASE pass this on to your friends. If
you have mailing lists and/or newsletters from organisations you are
connected with, I encourage you to pass this on.
Stephen Cooper
Detective Senior Constable 29748
Victoria Police State Crime Squad
Level 12, 412 St. Kilda Road , Melbourne
(03) 9865 2663 or 0414644499
stephen.cooper@...
mailto:stephen.cooper@...
Hi Pauline
Any chance you can let us know what happen at the meeting tomorrow?
Cheers Mim
--- In ozeyescheme@..., "Pauline Freeman" <sunfire@...>
wrote:
>
> In case anyone has missed it there will be a public meeting - open to
all - after the management meeting tonight at 7 pm approx - see you
there Pauline Freeman
>
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