I have received the following email from Picture trail where we have
the Australian scrollsawing photos, after being ripped off by
Photopoint before Christmas in exactly the same manner I have decided
against paying any fees or searching for free web space again. It
would be nice if some of our members posted more photos of their
projects in the club photo galleries.
Tom.
*****************************//*************************************

(Dear Picture Trail Member,

As you may know, online photo sharing services have been migrating
from a free ad supported model to some variation of a paid model.
This is because revenue generated from banner ads and site sponsors
have proved to be inadequate to support the high cost of running and
maintaining such operations.

PictureTrail has operated as a free photo sharing service since 1998.
But finally we too must migrate to a paid model with free accounts
still supported for low use members. The added revenue from this will
help fund site operations and support ongoing development projects to
evolve and enhance the PictureTrail service. )
(FREE USE IS NOW LIMITED TO 8 PHOTOS, AFTER THAT MEMBERSHIP IS
REQUIRED) Tom.

Mike   I asked at our club meeting on Tues night. No known problems
with PVA glueing. Not toxit but some people have allergy but no one
knew of anyone showing this.
Main problem is fumes while you are working it.espcially when turning
and machine sanding. Believe me it can make your eyes water and make
you catch your breath.I have never used for fretwork but have friend
who uses for intarsia
Ted

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., coffenup <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> what sort of glue do you for the timber campour laurel. As I
believe
> that it is to oily for aquadere(PVA)
> regards Michael

Hi Mike, I've never really heard of any wood that PVA wont bond, but
I'm thinking if you have a couple of scrap test pieces, glue them
together and try breaking the joint next day. Another last resort
standby if you can use it is "Araldite" but be careful of squeeze out.
Somehow I keep thinking that Camphor Laurel sawdust is highly Toxic
or Allergenic, could someone add some more substantial info on this
suspicion.
Tommy.

what sort of glue do you for the timber campour laurel. As I believe
that it is to oily for aquadere(PVA)
regards Michael

Our message board seems to have come to a dead stop. No one has
posted anything now for over a month, chat numbers on wednesdays have
also fallen off and the past few weeks it has only been Mike
(coffenup) and myself in the room. C'mon scrollers, lets see some
action. Tom.

As I mentioned last week I have now uploaded a pile of my FREE
patterns to this club. If you click  [ Files ] on the left yellow bar
it will lead to them. Please check the HOW TO instruction file on how
to print them on your printer. Anyone wishing to upload more patterns
please check with me first by email thomasrjm@... to
discuss any copyright issues, file size and file format.
Make more dust, Tom.

This Ozscrollsaw thing is getting a lil confusing, but hey, i'm working on it! 
Dee.
   Dee H <woodworks_works@...> wrote:

   thomasrjm <no_reply@...> wrote:
Thank you for all of the help, but if you ar eon please go on yahoo messenger so
we can talk about this wonderful group.
                         Many Thanks, Dee.Me again, how many others have been
confused with this new groooop
thingo. I went to change the link to our photo collection now on
picture trail and thought they had done away with LINKS, nope it's
now Bookmarks. Go to reply to a message and confonted by joining and
adding to a thread. Some good news though, I found a FILES 'gizmo'
and with a bit of luck we can use it as a free patterns folder.
Another plus is the SEARCH ARCHIVES 'wotnot' at the bottom of
messages on the home page, this will let you search for post's on a
particular subject. Database? can't figure out a use for that as yet
but I'm working on it.
Tommy.


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thomasrjm <no_reply@...> wrote:
Thank you for all of the help, but if you ar eon please go on yahoo messenger so
we can talk about this wonderful group.
                         Many Thanks, Dee.Me again, how many others have been
confused with this new groooop
thingo. I went to change the link to our photo collection now on
picture trail and thought they had done away with LINKS, nope it's
now Bookmarks. Go to reply to a message and confonted by joining and
adding to a thread. Some good news though, I found a FILES 'gizmo'
and with a bit of luck we can use it as a free patterns folder.
Another plus is the SEARCH ARCHIVES 'wotnot' at the bottom of
messages on the home page, this will let you search for post's on a
particular subject. Database? can't figure out a use for that as yet
but I'm working on it.
Tommy.


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Me again, how many others have been confused with this new groooop
thingo. I went to change the link to our photo collection now on
picture trail and thought they had done away with LINKS, nope it's
now Bookmarks. Go to reply to a message and confonted by joining and
adding to a thread. Some good news though, I found a FILES 'gizmo'
and with a bit of luck we can use it as a free patterns folder.
Another plus is the SEARCH ARCHIVES 'wotnot' at the bottom of
messages on the home page, this will let you search for post's on a
particular subject. Database? can't figure out a use for that as yet
but I'm working on it.
Tommy.

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., coffenup <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> O.K. members I have one queston to ask????
> What do you want from the open chat room??
> Can you suggest something then please let me know I've now waited 6
> weeks in a row in the chat room I've got so many questions to ask
> about scrolling & woodworking in general but no-one to ask. I
thought
> the IDEA of this group was to help each other so please come & help
> answer my questions PLEASE!! There are only soo much you can get
from
> books. The knowledge you all hold in your heads can not be that
great
> a secret that you won't share.
> Please help me.
> See you next wednesday night
> signed Michael member name coffenup

Well guys, I don't know what to say on this one but I do apologise
for my absence. Much of my time the last few months has been taken up
with festival commitees and ever changing work hours, to the point
that I hardly know what day it is. The chat worked great a year ago
but as you say it has declined into "noddy land". How about a few
replies here and a show of members next wednesday, we may need to
change days or time slot.
Tommy.
PS:- Michael if you have technical queries anytime post them here,
hopefully you will get replies.

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., Dee H <woodworks_works@y...> wrote:
> Hello thomasrjm's homepage doesn't seem to be working full progress
when I went to view Free scrollsaw patterns it said Folder is
currently empty?
>
>
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Welcome Dee, The Free patterns are definitely there but Yahoo
briefcases have all had a problem since before Easter, basically they
wont public share any files. I personally think this is Yahoo's way
of cutting bandwidth along with the new "clubs to groups" cut back,
if you have been following the news they posted a big loss on the
sharemarket today. Just email me thomasrjm@... with Yahoo
ID and I will enable access as a friend, which still works. If you
would like to see the Australian scrollsaw photos check back through
the posts here for the link.
Tommy.

Hello thomasrjm's homepage doesn't seem to be working full progress when I went
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---To coffenup
Michael
I also do not know what is happening to chat room
I come home to-night and went to chat aprox 9.00pm. My screen showed
no one home.
Tom if you read this please post if anything wrong with chat-room
ted

O.K. members I have one queston to ask????
What do you want from the open chat room??
Can you suggest something then please let me know I've now waited 6
weeks in a row in the chat room I've got so many questions to ask
about scrolling & woodworking in general but no-one to ask. I thought
the IDEA of this group was to help each other so please come & help
answer my questions PLEASE!! There are only soo much you can get from
books. The knowledge you all hold in your heads can not be that great
a secret that you won't share.
Please help me.
See you next wednesday night
signed Michael member name coffenup

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., tiddbitt17 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In ozscrollsaw@y..., thomasrjm <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Yahoo groups has not met with a lot of enthusiasm here or in USA.
It
> > seems a lot of the American clubs are losing members rapidly due
to
> a
> > Y! incentive program of selling members photos from group photo
> > galleries. We have lost one member today due to this fear. The
> > following is a message from Scrollsawing for prevention of this
new
> > practice if you follow it up there will be no need for anyone to
> > unsubscribe here:-   ...........................................
> > Can I prevent people from ordering pictures from my album?
> > You can disable the Order Prints option in an album collection
while
> > still sharing your album.
> > To disable this option, Click List to display your photo albums
as a
> > list. Click the Edit icon (a pencil) for the album that you want
to
> > modify. In the Share Your Album section, you'll see a checkbox
> > labeled Order restriction. If you check this box, the album will
> > still be displayed, but other people won't be able to order
prints.
> > OTHER NEWS :- Seems we will have to brush up our typing tonite
and
> > spend some time discussing an alternative chat room to use voice
> > until the software here is sorted out. It will probably be easier
to
> > form a conference room, so if you are lost send thomasrjm an
instant
> > message for directions.
> > Regards, Tommy.
>
> Sorry, the info is somewhat incorrect. The only albums that can be
> edited by the owner are the ones made after the change. The albums
> transferred here by Yahoo are somehow locked to the owners. The
club
> founder is the only one that can edit or delete them. In two other
> groups that I belong to, the founder has deleted everyone's album
so
> they may re-make them so they can edit them. Others have just
started
> new clubs at MSN and Community Zero.
>
> Tidd

You are 50% right Tidd, I can delete albums but not lock them, just
tried it. Okay this has been a disaster in US clubs but the problem
is not solved by going to MSN etc, photos can be poached there too by
right clicking them without even joining the club. My advice to
members concerned with their photos being used is to copy them to a
folder on their desktop, delete their album here, then reload the
photos to a new album and apply the safeguard I mentioned in my last
post.
Tom.

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., thomasrjm <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Yahoo groups has not met with a lot of enthusiasm here or in USA. It
> seems a lot of the American clubs are losing members rapidly due to
a
> Y! incentive program of selling members photos from group photo
> galleries. We have lost one member today due to this fear. The
> following is a message from Scrollsawing for prevention of this new
> practice if you follow it up there will be no need for anyone to
> unsubscribe here:-   ...........................................
> Can I prevent people from ordering pictures from my album?
> You can disable the Order Prints option in an album collection while
> still sharing your album.
> To disable this option, Click List to display your photo albums as a
> list. Click the Edit icon (a pencil) for the album that you want to
> modify. In the Share Your Album section, you'll see a checkbox
> labeled Order restriction. If you check this box, the album will
> still be displayed, but other people won't be able to order prints.
> OTHER NEWS :- Seems we will have to brush up our typing tonite and
> spend some time discussing an alternative chat room to use voice
> until the software here is sorted out. It will probably be easier to
> form a conference room, so if you are lost send thomasrjm an instant
> message for directions.
> Regards, Tommy.

Sorry, the info is somewhat incorrect. The only albums that can be
edited by the owner are the ones made after the change. The albums
transferred here by Yahoo are somehow locked to the owners. The club
founder is the only one that can edit or delete them. In two other
groups that I belong to, the founder has deleted everyone's album so
they may re-make them so they can edit them. Others have just started
new clubs at MSN and Community Zero.

Tidd

Yahoo groups has not met with a lot of enthusiasm here or in USA. It
seems a lot of the American clubs are losing members rapidly due to a
Y! incentive program of selling members photos from group photo
galleries. We have lost one member today due to this fear. The
following is a message from Scrollsawing for prevention of this new
practice if you follow it up there will be no need for anyone to
unsubscribe here:-   ...........................................
Can I prevent people from ordering pictures from my album?
You can disable the Order Prints option in an album collection while
still sharing your album.
To disable this option, Click List to display your photo albums as a
list. Click the Edit icon (a pencil) for the album that you want to
modify. In the Share Your Album section, you'll see a checkbox
labeled Order restriction. If you check this box, the album will
still be displayed, but other people won't be able to order prints.
OTHER NEWS :- Seems we will have to brush up our typing tonite and
spend some time discussing an alternative chat room to use voice
until the software here is sorted out. It will probably be easier to
form a conference room, so if you are lost send thomasrjm an instant
message for directions.
Regards, Tommy.

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., garybrowning20002000 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I am giving this a try for myself.I would also like to ask Tom if I
> can post a link to your Australian scroll art pictures.I'm sure all
> scrollers will want to take a look at what you have to offer.
> Thanks for your time,
> Gary Browning
>
> http://communities.msn.com/scrollsawportraits/_whatsnew.msnw

Good luck with the new portraits club Gary, our picture trail photos
are linked by several sites and are there to be seen. I have sent
email permission seperately.
Regards, Tom Manley.

I am giving this a try for myself.I would also like to ask Tom if I
can post a link to your Australian scroll art pictures.I'm sure all
scrollers will want to take a look at what you have to offer.
Thanks for your time,
Gary Browning

http://communities.msn.com/scrollsawportraits/_whatsnew.msnw

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., ejhkiama <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In ozscrollsaw@y..., coffenup <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > --- In ozscrollsaw@y..., ejhkiama <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > Tom
> > > I just went to chat room.     No one else at home    Notice
says
> > that
> > > voice not available    is there a problem or do I have a problem
> > > Ted
> > no ted I had the same problem it was not you computer
> > regards michael
> Michael
> My computer did not show that you or any one else was in chat
room
> ted
You guys were lucky to find the chat room last week, I couldn't even
get into the club here. From what I can put together the groups page
thing is Yahoos idea of stripping bandwidth from clubs. Apparently
voice chat has bit the dust on the american clubs too and they have
formed chat rooms elsewhere on Y! until the gliche is resolved. Let's
suffer and see for a few weeks then make other arrangements such as
conferencing or eyeball chat if our voice still remains unavailable.
Tom Manley.

Just a note to let fellow scrollers know that the Albury/Wodonga
Woodgroup is staging a Scrollsaw weekend on 4th & 5th of May 2002 at
Wodonga Vic. People interested in attending and getting further
information can contact Ed Kilo on telephone 02 60242482 or write to
him at 2 Griffith St Wodonga Vic 3690.

Neil Schulz

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., coffenup <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> --- In ozscrollsaw@y..., ejhkiama <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > Tom
> > I just went to chat room.     No one else at home    Notice says
> that
> > voice not available    is there a problem or do I have a problem
> > Ted
> no ted I had the same problem it was not you computer
> regards michael
Michael
My computer did not show that you or any one else was in chat room
ted

--- In ozscrollsaw@y..., ejhkiama <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Tom
> I just went to chat room.     No one else at home    Notice says
that
> voice not available    is there a problem or do I have a problem
> Ted
no ted I had the same problem it was not you computer
regards michael

Tom
I just went to chat room.     No one else at home    Notice says that
voice not available    is there a problem or do I have a problem
Ted

Here is a great indian portrait pattern that I have designed for you.It is
Cochese<br>Enjoy,<br>Gary Browning<br><br><a
href=http://www.angelfire.com/md2/creativewood/freeart.htm
target=new>http://www.angelfire.com/md2/creativewood/freeart.htm</a>

Not so much a flying start Tommy - more like a supersonic blast! You're doing an
excellent job. Your work is appreciated. Thank you.<br>Christine

My day off today was spent uploading the photo
collection to its new home at.......
<a href=http://www.picturetrail.com/ozscrollsaw
target=new>http://www.picturetrail.com/ozscrollsaw</a> <br>183 pics up so far in
4 albums and quite
happy with this new host. There are more photos on
back-up zips and CD's which will be uploaded as I locate
them, but at least we are off to a flying start.<br>Be
good, Tommy.

Just picked up the hosting suggestions tonight
and checked them out. Hard to decide, Pix trail looks
good but no mention of album size limits and I would
like to upload at least 200 photos. They are all
reduced res and file size that would easily fit on Tripod
too, which also has photo page templates but unsure
about uploading process.<br>Further updates in a few
days after I sign up for them.<br>Thanks for the help,
Tom.

Another one is <a href=http://www.picturetrail.com
target=new>http://www.picturetrail.com</a><br>It
is free. You update to be able to add more albums.
Near as I can tell, you can have as many albums with
as many pics in the albums that you want. Worth a
look.<br>Tidd

Tom,<br><br>Here are a couple more free hosting
"template" sites you might want to check
into.<br><br>www.freewebspace.com<br>www.tripod.com<br><br>I'm not sure off hand
what the size limit is and also
suggest you read thier rules. Some free sites don't allow
you to use tham as a place to "store" your
photo's.<br><br>Good luck.<br><br>Linster