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Re: Hello Bo

Hi Bo<br>I agree with your description of how the
MOQ kicks the chair from under other, conventional
philosophy, i see RP as giving the beautiful framework for a
new, all- inclusive way of dealing with life. <br>As I
said earlier: I have always had problems 'judging'
things - i.e. trying to figure out if 'this' is better
than 'that'... and consequently often come to a 'brick
wall' whilelooking at my life and making decisions:
whether it is study, work, plans, people around me, love
life, it seems like everything sometimes! <br>This lack
of ability to judge situations and people,has meant
my feeling unable to continue my projects/jobs in
life, with the ultimate result in a serious personal
breakdown recently, resulting from my self-image reaching
bottom. <br>I felt like a total failure despite having
refused to set up my own 'success' to judge myself by, by
relying on others to support and direct me and living in
an 'all or nothing' outlook. My adult life has all
been about 'dynamic' bursts of energy in several
directions (from Fine Art,to wooden schooner restoration and
sailing for the last 5 years), but I seem to lack the
skills to make the necessary 'static latching' to get me
to build on my creative experiences and
achievements!<br>I guess what I'm saying is Pirsig's approach and
writing style has encouraged me to personally see the
psychological repercussions of dynamic and static quality, and
am trying to use VALUE to heal myself!<br>Anyway,I'm
now believe in the positive power of practising calm
'quality' judgement in all spheres, and am trying to get on
with living a positive, constructive life. Not at all
easy, for someone who can always find an excuse for
themselves or others around them as to why things are
happenning.<br>I FEEL that you and RP are right in saying that we
all know what is quality innately, but I'm finding it
hard to access that instinctual nature. Too much
bourgeois 'civilisation' getting in the way, probably.
<br>I'm looking for tips on how to implememt MOQ on a day
to day level. <br><br>HELP!/any ideas or thoughts
anyone?/<br><br>lots of positive vibes (as the hippies used to
say)<br><br>from Sara (alias Caledonia)




Wed Apr 11, 2001 11:04 am

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Hi Geoff and Pirsig fans.<br>Thanks for the welcome words, the "Balasoglou" name struck a note with me so now I remember your presence at the moq.discuss site...
bo34no
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Apr 9, 2001
8:47 am

Hi Bo<br>I agree with your description of how the MOQ kicks the chair from under other, conventional philosophy, i see RP as giving the beautiful framework for...
caledonia1963
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Apr 11, 2001
11:04 am

Hi Sara and all Pirsigeans.<br>Holland seems to be Pirsig's most fertile ground beside Scandinavia, wonder why. It looks like a pioneer country in many ...
bo34no
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Apr 13, 2001
12:28 pm

Hi Pirsig Club members.<br>As no-one else posts I have to start talking to myself (a sure sign of old age). In my reply to Sara (Caledonia) I touched upon ...
bo34no
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Apr 25, 2001
8:15 am

Hi Bo<br>Sorry to have remained unresponsive. I enjoyed reading and thinking about your message. I have also been reading your personal philosophical notes... ...
caledonia1963
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Apr 25, 2001
4:47 pm

Hi Bo, Sara and other lurkers,<br><br>I read both of your posts found them both interesting. <br><br>Bo, I find how you said that society and technology has...
enlightenedphilosopher
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Apr 27, 2001
6:16 am

Hi Geoff<br>Good to 'hear' your voice again! No 'thanks' necessary, anyway, I'm enjoying taking part in this site, and its not yours alone anyway, so dont get ...
caledonia1963
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Apr 27, 2001
9:56 am

Hi Sara and Geoff and all.<br>Thanks for the response. My messages aren't much of a dialogue rather like a Moses down from the mountain so I understand that ...
bo34no
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Apr 27, 2001
7:54 pm

(continued)<br>The rise of the euthanasia question I see as a manifestation of the collective (social) value and the uncanny feeling we experience in its wake...
bo34no
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Apr 27, 2001
7:56 pm

Yes, it seems I am reading ZMM again. <br>I think I missed out a whole lot things the first way through and I am now to years older.<br>So I'll give it another...
enlightenedphilosopher
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May 3, 2001
10:45 am

Not that it's going to change anything, but were Chris Pirsig's killers ever "brought to justice"? I've not been able to find anything about that on the...
yah_me
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May 5, 2001
8:32 pm

Geoff said:<br><br>&gt;Bo, I find how you said that society and &gt;technology has advanced interesting. <br>&gt;Vegetable-like Humans without the technoloy...
bo34no
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May 7, 2001
5:49 am

A brief, first reply to your interesting, but confusing mail! Call me thick, but I found it difficult to follow your point! A few initial points and ...
caledonia1963
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May 8, 2001
10:41 am

Halooo...<br>Is there anybody out there?<br>Was it something I wrote, or is it holiday time for everyone?<br>Has noone anything to say or discuss about ...
caledonia1963
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May 17, 2001
11:04 am

Sorry for not posting lately.<br><br>The reason is that I have exams approaching next week so I have been hard at study.<br><br>After next week and a bit, I...
enlightenedphilosopher
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May 18, 2001
6:01 am

Hi Pirsig Club.<br>We suddenly got relatives visiting from the USA and I had to act the host, but now things are back to normal.<br><br>For Geoff.<br>Stay with...
bo34no
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May 18, 2001
9:23 am

GOOOD LUCK with your studies Geoff - what's your subject(s)?<br>You didn't mention how you got on with ZMM the 2nd time around - any flashy, quick comments in...
caledonia1963
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May 18, 2001
5:48 pm

Hi KA<br>You did not get any response to your question about the murder of Chris Pirsig, but I'm afraid that I have no new information on the matter other than...
bo34no
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May 23, 2001
6:59 am

Update,<br><br>I have now completed 2 of my 5 exams.<br>English and Economics have been completed,<br>Accounting, Math with Stats and Classical Studies ...
enlightenedphilosopher
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May 25, 2001
11:41 pm

Pirsig fans.<br>Internet discussions seem to have only two modes: full ahead and dead stop. I participate in another site (Colin Wilson) which is overflowing...
bo34no
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May 31, 2001
6:57 pm

HI Bo and all (all 2 of us regulars!!??? say something, anything , someone else, PLEASE!!!)<br><br>Im back from a sailing week (as mate, and singing ...
caledonia1963
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Jun 1, 2001
11:27 am

Hi Bo, Sara & all,<br><br>I agree that Pirsig needs a popularizer. The brutal volume of advertising that hits people every day makes it difficult for them to...
joao_csilva
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Jun 1, 2001
5:27 pm

Hallo Joao<br>Nice to here another voice here - where are you writing from - Brazil? <br>(I have a fascination with Bahia as I co-own a saveiro buiklt in ...
caledonia1963
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Jun 2, 2001
10:22 am

Hello Sara, Bo, Joao & all,<br><br>I’ve been keeping away from potential discussions, as I really need to reread both Lila and ZMM. <br><br>Sara, I like ...
discoverylover
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Jun 2, 2001
3:23 pm

Joao and Club.<br>I thought we had met before - at the Lila Squad perhaps - but see that you are a Wilson club member too. OK that's fine, you'll perhaps have...
bo34no
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Jun 3, 2001
8:21 am

I think a popularizer of Pirsig are in fact his many readers. My brother's friend recommended that I read 'ZMM'. This 'word of mouth' allowed me to discover...
enlightenedphilosopher
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Jun 3, 2001
8:27 am

Yes Geoff, and what I was trying to add in my mailings was that, it is by being affected by Pirsig and seeing how quality can be achieved in every day in our ...
caledonia1963
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Jun 3, 2001
11:43 am

Bo, I find what you wrote interesting; I’m waiting for a continuation....
discoverylover
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Jun 3, 2001
12:22 pm

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joao_csilva
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Jun 3, 2001
4:13 pm

Hallo Clubbers... & Wow Joao!<br>A lot of words, and ethusiasm, and desperation about the state of the world - but I'm not clear about your message or question...
caledonia1963
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Jun 4, 2001
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