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Pirsig needs a popularizer.

Pirsig fans.<br>Internet discussions seem to have
only two modes: full ahead and dead stop. I
participate in another site (Colin Wilson) which is
overflowing while this one is dried up, but no problem it
gives me the opportunity to deliver another
monologue.<br><br>The said Colin Wilson (British born 1931 "The
Outsider" his first book) reminds me of Robert Pirsig
because he primarily writes to express ideas and is
perhaps a better writer in the sense that he have
received bad reviews and still go on writing. As an
original thinker, however, Pirsig is light-years ahead but
was too self-critical to publish anything after the
tepid reception of LILA. Yet, it was perhaps the wiser
thing to do - not to build a recluse reputation, but
from a deep quality sense. He has said it, no new
argument will persuade anyone who did not get the message
through ZAMM and LILA, and writing for the sake of
writing is not his thing. <br> Wilson has written about
many phenomena: mostly what one would call occult, his
last venture was about UFOs, while Pirsig has not
touched such stuff (except for the ghost story of ZMM and
the Dharmakaya Light of LILA). There are those who
don't like his "afterword" in (some editions)of ZAMM,
guess it is his wonderings about where Chris went
(after death) that was regarded unseemly. <br> But can a
metaphysics - which is supposed to cover everything there is
- avoid occultism? Or is it so that even the occult
is a subject/ object fallout? That they are observed
don't help - it's merely data. Over at the CW site I
have prayed for Wilson to "discover" Pirsig and start
popularizing his Quality Metaphysics; nobody beats Wilson in
that aspect, but can the MoQ be popularized?
<br>Enough question marks.<br>Bo




Thu May 31, 2001 6:57 pm

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enlightenedphilosopher
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May 25, 2001
11:41 pm

Pirsig fans.<br>Internet discussions seem to have only two modes: full ahead and dead stop. I participate in another site (Colin Wilson) which is overflowing...
bo34no
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May 31, 2001
6:57 pm

HI Bo and all (all 2 of us regulars!!??? say something, anything , someone else, PLEASE!!!)<br><br>Im back from a sailing week (as mate, and singing ...
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Jun 1, 2001
11:27 am

Hi Bo, Sara & all,<br><br>I agree that Pirsig needs a popularizer. The brutal volume of advertising that hits people every day makes it difficult for them to...
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Jun 1, 2001
5:27 pm

Hallo Joao<br>Nice to here another voice here - where are you writing from - Brazil? <br>(I have a fascination with Bahia as I co-own a saveiro buiklt in ...
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Jun 2, 2001
10:22 am

Hello Sara, Bo, Joao & all,<br><br>I’ve been keeping away from potential discussions, as I really need to reread both Lila and ZMM. <br><br>Sara, I like ...
discoverylover
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Jun 2, 2001
3:23 pm

Joao and Club.<br>I thought we had met before - at the Lila Squad perhaps - but see that you are a Wilson club member too. OK that's fine, you'll perhaps have...
bo34no
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Jun 3, 2001
8:21 am

I think a popularizer of Pirsig are in fact his many readers. My brother's friend recommended that I read 'ZMM'. This 'word of mouth' allowed me to discover...
enlightenedphilosopher
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Jun 3, 2001
8:27 am

Yes Geoff, and what I was trying to add in my mailings was that, it is by being affected by Pirsig and seeing how quality can be achieved in every day in our ...
caledonia1963
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Jun 3, 2001
11:43 am

Bo, I find what you wrote interesting; I’m waiting for a continuation....
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Jun 3, 2001
12:22 pm

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joao_csilva
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Jun 3, 2001
4:13 pm

Hallo Clubbers... & Wow Joao!<br>A lot of words, and ethusiasm, and desperation about the state of the world - but I'm not clear about your message or question...
caledonia1963
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Jun 4, 2001
8:53 am

Hi Bo<br>My version of ZMM did not have the afterword you mention here. I am curious, perhaps rather sensationally, and I know I should really concentrate on...
caledonia1963
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Jun 4, 2001
9:10 am

For Diana: <br>As said I launched this my "change-over-time" idea at another site but was informed that a science-writer, Robert A. Wilson, had anticipated it...
bo34no
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Jun 5, 2001
7:31 am

Hi Sara,<br>You can find the afterword here:<br><a href=http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/Quality/PirsigZen/afterword.html...
joao_csilva
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Jun 5, 2001
3:38 pm

Hey Jaoa<br>I checked out the Tao of Poo site a coupkle of days ago. Very sweet! I still have fond memories or being read Poo as a child in Scotland. ...
caledonia1963
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Jun 8, 2001
10:11 am

Thanks for this Jaoa...<br>I found it deeply sad, but beautifully written piece.<br>COndolences to him and all who have suffered the loss of a close loved ...
caledonia1963
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Jun 10, 2001
7:50 am

Sara, I think I understand what you are saying about pain. It seems to me that pain helps me ‘unlock’ myself; it opens a kind of sensitivity in me....
discoverylover
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Jun 10, 2001
10:25 pm

Hi all!<br>Diana - yes, I like your description about how pain helps us. I too am rather vague about the process, as this is the first time in my life I am...
caledonia1963
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Jun 12, 2001
7:55 am

Hi Sara and Pirsig readers.<br>This small "club" is such an relaxing place compared to the bedlam of the Lila Squad and I should beware of introducing any ...
bo34no
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Jun 13, 2001
7:46 am

OK it may be relaxed here Bo, but i dont mind a bit of controversy to stir the cobwebs in my brain!<br>What is the particular shocker you were aluding to in ...
caledonia1963
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Jun 15, 2001
8:53 am

Hi all! <br><br>May I come in? <br><br>I'm glad to enter this small club. I'd say it's relaxing, as I'm used to the crowded *agora* of MD and MF. Someone of...
deadlytoy
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Jun 22, 2001
6:00 pm

Hi "deadlytoy" and Club.<br>Quite a password you have chosen for yourself Marco, but warmly welcome to this recreation home for us wounded on the battlefields...
bo34no
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Jun 23, 2001
4:57 pm

HI all<br>Wll done for the mammoth task of starting an Italian site,Marco. I hope it is fun as well as serious hard work!<br>I thought I'd follow on on the...
caledonia1963
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Jun 25, 2001
3:06 pm

Hallo is there anybody there? All on holiday.<br>i hope my mail was not so dull it put anybody off commenting on this forum!<br>im off for a spin on my ...
caledonia63
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Jul 1, 2001
9:39 am

Hallo is there anybody there? All on holiday.<br>i hope my mail was not so dull it put anybody off commenting on this forum!<br>im off for a spin on my ...
caledonia63
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Jul 15, 2001
8:09 am

Where is everybody?<br>Calling all Pirsig readers - write down a line... someone! - and start this ghostly site again - I'm getting lonely here all...
caledonia63
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Jul 15, 2001
8:17 am

Hi Sara and Group.<br>Your "trannies" message was directed mainly to Marco, but as he seems to be away discovering China (Marco Polo!) and everyone else away...
bo34no
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Jul 17, 2001
6:59 pm

Hello, I’m here too. In the last three days I read some consequent parts of Lila. I found some similar points with phenomenology. Phenomenology is a ...
discoverylover
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Jul 18, 2001
1:25 am

I'm glad to be chatting again!<br>What were the 'consequent' pages you were reading Geoff? - Do let us know how your reading makes sense to you, ...
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Jul 20, 2001
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