Hi Sara and Pirsig readers.<br>This small "club"
is such an relaxing place compared to the bedlam of
the Lila Squad and I should beware of introducing any
controversial matter, but Pirsig's Quality Metaphysics is
revolution. Most revolutions brings one 180 degree, but this
has so great momentum that it carries one full
circle. Nothing has changed but everything has. May I use
(our common) Colin Wilson as an point of departure.
<br><br>Yes, his "Outsider" ....!! This was in way back (1959)
and the - then young - Bo was deeply hooked. My early
admiration for CW was as an philosopher, but his stories
were great too because his ideas were never far off. I
won't say one negative thing about him (still buy
whatever he writes)it was only that with Pisig something
even bigger hit. You (all) know that Pirsig in his
Quality Metaphysics (QM) rejects the so-called
SubjectObject Metaphysics (SOM) but Wilson never made THAT step
(even if he hovers on the brink) and keeps up the
mind/matter division (which is SOM's main off-shoot). Of late
he has delved into UFOs, abduction, cattle
mutilations and in his last book "Alien Dawn" he comes close
to the QM again, but at 70 and aspiring to be a
metaphysical innovator you don't give credit to other
thinkers. Like this old hand who seldom enters any
dialogue, but merely lectures :-). <br><br>This piece is to
be continued in which I hope to return to the
"end-of-the-world-idea" in a quality perspective ..for the benefit of
Diana who found it intriguing. <br>Bo
Hi all!<br>Diana - yes, I like your description about how pain helps us. I too am rather vague about the process, as this is the first time in my life I am...
Hi Sara and Pirsig readers.<br>This small "club" is such an relaxing place compared to the bedlam of the Lila Squad and I should beware of introducing any ...
OK it may be relaxed here Bo, but i dont mind a bit of controversy to stir the cobwebs in my brain!<br>What is the particular shocker you were aluding to in ...
Hi all! <br><br>May I come in? <br><br>I'm glad to enter this small club. I'd say it's relaxing, as I'm used to the crowded *agora* of MD and MF. Someone of...
Hi "deadlytoy" and Club.<br>Quite a password you have chosen for yourself Marco, but warmly welcome to this recreation home for us wounded on the battlefields...
HI all<br>Wll done for the mammoth task of starting an Italian site,Marco. I hope it is fun as well as serious hard work!<br>I thought I'd follow on on the...
Hallo is there anybody there? All on holiday.<br>i hope my mail was not so dull it put anybody off commenting on this forum!<br>im off for a spin on my ...
Hallo is there anybody there? All on holiday.<br>i hope my mail was not so dull it put anybody off commenting on this forum!<br>im off for a spin on my ...
Hi Sara and Group.<br>Your "trannies" message was directed mainly to Marco, but as he seems to be away discovering China (Marco Polo!) and everyone else away...
Hello, I’m here too. In the last three days I read some consequent parts of Lila. I found some similar points with phenomenology. Phenomenology is a ...
I have a fascination with the tacky, kitsch, souvenirs we human collect from holidays and trips in an attempt to fix those events in our minds through looking ...
Nowadays people prefer to live on the move: they want to travel, to explore new places. They want more freedom, more options in life. <br><br>Is this an...
Bo: << is that Husserl or Heidegger or ..? >><br><br>Yes, exactly. I’m not too much familiar with it myself. But it seems to me that they...
Hi Club! <br><br>Here again, sorry if I can stumble across this place just once a month... anyway, I've seen very good posts, so maybe you don't need me ... ...
.... PART II<br><br>** Language, Rituals and the MOQ **<br><br>How many time did we discuss language Bo? Dozens? Hundreds? Well, we used to agree, but lately...
(I had to post this separately for the lencth of the previous message)<br><br><br>Diana:<br>Nowadays people prefer to live on the move: they want to travel, to...
Sara wrote:<br>> The books are monuments to the beautiful<br>> search for higher meaning in life, beyond earthly successes, and try<br>> to form a...
Bo <br>I was first annoyed, then disappointed and finally slightly cynically amused inreaction to your previous comment:<br><br>"I am a bit reluctant to speak ...
Sara and All.<br>God, this is the misunderstanding of the year, but entirely my fault. The <br>opening paragraph was meant to be slightly ironic ....we are...
What a relief Bo!<br>I may be prone to negative, paranoid thinking, but I really didn't guess your cinicism in that paragraph. Context context...<br>I have...
Dear Sara and Club<br>you wrote:<br>> HI All, especially those I talked to earlier this year. <br>> We all been doing other things, and this site remains...
Dear Sara! <br>I come from Slovenia and I like philosophy. Currently I was reading Pirsig's book Zen and the Art of the motorcycle maintenance and I kind of ...