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Re: DQ

Dear Discoverylover, Sara and all.<br><br>Disco.
wrote in a previous message):<br>&gt; Hello, I’m here
too. In the last three days I read some
consequent<br>&gt; parts of Lila. I found some similar points with
phenomenology.<br>&gt; Phenomenology is a reaction against the natural
scientific way of<br>&gt; explaining the reality. As Pirsig
says, “Should reality be something<br>&gt; that only a
handful of the world’s most advanced physicists<br>&gt;
understand?”<br><br>Agreement about the last line. Over at the Pirsig/MoQ
discuss/focus forums there are so many who want to demonstrate
how complex (their understanding of) Pirsig's system
is and of philosophy in general is (maybe I have
sinned too:) but I have often referred to the said
passage about small children. The MoQ is <br>the simplest
possible view of reality. About phenomenology I am a bit
rusty at the moment, is that Husserl or Heidegger or
..? <br> <br>&gt; An implication of the above problem
comes to mind. It seems that<br>&gt; people, who
believe in the might of science, become less certain
in<br>&gt; their own ability to understand reality. That is,
if only a handful of<br>&gt; experts can know the
reality, then the ordinary people would have to<br>&gt;
rely on those experts’ knowledge. <br><br>I was once
an avid reader of science magazines (still subscribe
to Scientific American) but I have stopped believing
that they speak about any ultimate truth. There is
however a great respect for titles and positions;
Doctorates, professors, "chairs" at this or that University,
bah!. The most rigid minds are the university
"philosophologists". They don't recognize an idea unless it's at least
<br>two hundred years old, but as Pirsig has
demonstrated; Social value play a <br>major role, so its part
of the game. <br>Thanks from the eternal amateur
...whatever.<br>Bo<br><br>PS for Sara.<br>To do your input justice I must
return to it in a separate post.




Wed Jul 25, 2001 7:18 am

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Nowadays people prefer to live on the move: they want to travel, to explore new places. They want more freedom, more options in life. <br><br>Is this an...
discoverylover
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Jul 24, 2001
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Dear Discoverylover, Sara and all.<br><br>Disco. wrote in a previous message):<br>&gt; Hello, I’m here too. In the last three days I read some ...
bo34no
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Jul 25, 2001
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Bo: &lt;&lt; is that Husserl or Heidegger or ..? &gt;&gt;<br><br>Yes, exactly. I’m not too much familiar with it myself. But it seems to me that they...
discoverylover
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Jul 27, 2001
7:13 am

Hi Club! <br><br>Here again, sorry if I can stumble across this place just once a month... anyway, I've seen very good posts, so maybe you don't need me ... ...
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Jul 28, 2001
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.... PART II<br><br>** Language, Rituals and the MOQ **<br><br>How many time did we discuss language Bo? Dozens? Hundreds? Well, we used to agree, but lately...
deadlytoy
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Jul 28, 2001
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(I had to post this separately for the lencth of the previous message)<br><br><br>Diana:<br>Nowadays people prefer to live on the move: they want to travel, to...
deadlytoy
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Jul 28, 2001
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Sara wrote:<br>&gt; The books are monuments to the beautiful<br>&gt; search for higher meaning in life, beyond earthly successes, and try<br>&gt; to form a...
bo34no
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Aug 1, 2001
7:29 pm

Bo <br>I was first annoyed, then disappointed and finally slightly cynically amused inreaction to your previous comment:<br><br>"I am a bit reluctant to speak ...
caledonia63
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Aug 8, 2001
10:19 am

Sara and All.<br>God, this is the misunderstanding of the year, but entirely my fault. The <br>opening paragraph was meant to be slightly ironic ....we are...
bo34no
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Aug 12, 2001
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What a relief Bo!<br>I may be prone to negative, paranoid thinking, but I really didn't guess your cinicism in that paragraph. Context context...<br>I have...
caledonia63
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Aug 12, 2001
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HI All, especially those I talked to earlier this year. <br>We all been doing other things, and this site remains as a graveyard in the memory of ...
caledonia63
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Oct 2, 2001
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Dear Sara and Club<br>you wrote:<br>&gt; HI All, especially those I talked to earlier this year. <br>&gt; We all been doing other things, and this site remains...
bo34no
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Oct 25, 2001
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Dear Sara! <br>I come from Slovenia and I like philosophy. Currently I was reading Pirsig's book Zen and the Art of the motorcycle maintenance and I kind of ...
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