after having my bike sit in the garage for more than 3 years I've
decided to make a psecial out of it.  So keep a look out on ebay soon
for parts such as wheels, forks, swing arm, shock, plastics tank etc.

Most parts need some work beacuase I t-boned a tray ute and I haven't
seen the bike and bits since 2001, but the person who's house it is in
will hopefully give some more details.

99% complete. 20,000 original kilometers garaged for last ten years.

Tamworth NSW Australia, Ask for Rob 67623853

Make an offer, looking for a bigger bike will swap.

Guys, can anyone tell me the standard gearing for the GF 250.
As bought mine had  engine 13, rear wheel 45.
My dealer told me it should be 14 / 48 , which is a bit higher.
Does anyone know please?
thanks
Mark

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Subject: RE: [suzuki250fours] 82 GS250FWD

Hey Chris,

Where are you located?  I'd be interested in a few things :)


Cheers,


Carl

On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 19:55 +0200, CHRIS STEWART wrote:
> im breaking down an 82 gs250fw if anyones interested in parts
>
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> From: "casper05james"
> To: suzuki250fours@...
> Cc:
> Subject: [suzuki250fours] 82 GS250FWD
>
> Hey found a GS 250 garaged for the last 13 years.
> Owner says it was good when it went in but it won't start now!
>
> Any advise? Asking $300
>
> Missing left side muffler???
>
> last registered in 1992 but appears immaculate.
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Hi Carl

ah the Choke, yeah I've used plenty of that. I'll chance the leads and check the
coils. I'll try and do that next week.

I let you know how I go.

Thanks again.

Mal

Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
Hey Malcolm,

That's a good plug for Pete - If I get stuck on something I'll give him
a call :)

In the service manual it states resistances for the coil primary and
secondary circuits (page 5-16 at the back) - It might pay to check them
all with a meter.  Changing the leads over would be quick too (if
they're stuffed).

The easy out sounds like a winner - if you can get one that small..

The enrichment system is the choke.  It's two little cable driven,
spring loaded plungers that screw into the back of both the
carburettors; you'd know if you didn't hook it up.


Cheers,


Carl


On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 14:47 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> Thanks Carl
>
> Pete was good he did the valve clearances very quikly. The other carbies on
the other bike have 2 jammed up air jet screws. So no luke there.
>
> Spark seems good, but I will try the other coils and leads off the other bike.
> I was thinking easy out will be the only option it is fused stuck.
> The Enrichment system, now that sounds good. Where is that located?
>
> When I finally did get it going and warmed up it sounded great. It was slow to
rev up to around 5 but then once warm it was smooth reving from 5-11k
>
> It is starting to become promising.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Mal
>
>
>
> Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
> Hey Malcolm,
>
> Glad to hear that it's almost working :)
>
> There'd be a few things I'd look at:
> - Enrichment system
> - Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
> - Air jet (as you mentioned)
>
> If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
> connect it :)
>
> I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
> bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
> lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).
>
> I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
> others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
> others.  If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
> around - or you could try one from your other bike..
>
> Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
> stock?
>
> As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic.  The carburettor's
> pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it.  You might
> find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
> to somebody else to do :P
>
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
> On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> > Hey Guys
> >
> >
> >
> > I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got  the valuve clearances
set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
> >
> >
> >
> > One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll
get it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you
suggest I do.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
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Hey Malcolm,

That's a good plug for Pete - If I get stuck on something I'll give him
a call :)

In the service manual it states resistances for the coil primary and
secondary circuits (page 5-16 at the back) - It might pay to check them
all with a meter.  Changing the leads over would be quick too (if
they're stuffed).

The easy out sounds like a winner - if you can get one that small..

The enrichment system is the choke.  It's two little cable driven,
spring loaded plungers that screw into the back of both the
carburettors; you'd know if you didn't hook it up.


Cheers,


Carl


On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 14:47 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> Thanks Carl
>
> Pete was good he did the valve clearances very quikly. The other carbies on
the other bike have 2 jammed up air jet screws. So no luke there.
>
> Spark seems good, but I will try the other coils and leads off the other bike.
> I was thinking easy out will be the only option it is fused stuck.
> The Enrichment system, now that sounds good. Where is that located?
>
> When I finally did get it going and warmed up it sounded great. It was slow to
rev up to around 5 but then once warm it was smooth reving from 5-11k
>
> It is starting to become promising.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Mal
>
>
>
> Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
> Hey Malcolm,
>
> Glad to hear that it's almost working :)
>
> There'd be a few things I'd look at:
> - Enrichment system
> - Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
> - Air jet (as you mentioned)
>
> If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
> connect it :)
>
> I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
> bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
> lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).
>
> I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
> others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
> others.  If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
> around - or you could try one from your other bike..
>
> Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
> stock?
>
> As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic.  The carburettor's
> pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it.  You might
> find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
> to somebody else to do :P
>
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
> On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> > Hey Guys
> >
> >
> >
> > I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got  the valuve clearances
set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
> >
> >
> >
> > One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll
get it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you
suggest I do.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
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Thanks Carl

Pete was good he did the valve clearances very quikly. The other carbies on the
other bike have 2 jammed up air jet screws. So no luke there.

Spark seems good, but I will try the other coils and leads off the other bike.
I was thinking easy out will be the only option it is fused stuck.
The Enrichment system, now that sounds good. Where is that located?

When I finally did get it going and warmed up it sounded great. It was slow to
rev up to around 5 but then once warm it was smooth reving from 5-11k

It is starting to become promising.

Thanks for all your help.

Mal



Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
Hey Malcolm,

Glad to hear that it's almost working :)

There'd be a few things I'd look at:
- Enrichment system
- Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
- Air jet (as you mentioned)

If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
connect it :)

I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).

I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
others.  If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
around - or you could try one from your other bike..

Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
stock?

As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic.  The carburettor's
pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it.  You might
find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
to somebody else to do :P


Good Luck!



Carl


On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> Hey Guys
>
>
>
> I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got  the valuve clearances
set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
>
>
>
> One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll get
it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you suggest I
do.
>
>
>
> When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Mal
>
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Hey Malcolm,

Glad to hear that it's almost working :)

There'd be a few things I'd look at:
  - Enrichment system
  - Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
  - Air jet (as you mentioned)

If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
connect it :)

I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).

I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
others.  If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
around - or you could try one from your other bike..

Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
stock?

As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic.  The carburettor's
pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it.  You might
find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
to somebody else to do :P


Good Luck!



Carl


On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> Hey Guys
>
>
>
> I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got  the valuve clearances
set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
>
>
>
> One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll get
it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you suggest I
do.
>
>
>
> When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Mal
>
>
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Hey Guys



I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got  the valuve clearances set,
thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.



One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll get
it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you suggest I
do.



When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to finally
get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully revs the
clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the exhaust
remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets going
all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.



Any ideas?



Thanks



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Hey Chris,

Where are you located?  I'd be interested in a few things :)


Cheers,


Carl

On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 19:55 +0200, CHRIS STEWART wrote:
> im breaking down an 82 gs250fw if anyones interested in parts
>
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> Message Received: Jun 27 2005, 12:56 PM
> From: "casper05james"
> To: suzuki250fours@...
> Cc:
> Subject: [suzuki250fours] 82 GS250FWD
>
> Hey found a GS 250 garaged for the last 13 years.
> Owner says it was good when it went in but it won't start now!
>
> Any advise? Asking $300
>
> Missing left side muffler???
>
> last registered in 1992 but appears immaculate.
>
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Message Received: Jun 27 2005, 12:56 PM
From: "casper05james"
To: suzuki250fours@...
Cc:
Subject: [suzuki250fours] 82 GS250FWD

Hey found a GS 250 garaged for the last 13 years.
Owner says it was good when it went in but it won't start now!

Any advise? Asking $300

Missing left side muffler???

last registered in 1992 but appears immaculate.






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Thanks John. i'll try it  out. thanks a million.

:)


--- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis" <john_avis@h...>
wrote:
> Jeremy,
>
> I guess it must be a break in one of the wires running to the
handlebars or
> a bad connection at the ignition or kill switch.
>
> It may help to isolate the problem to a smaller area by getting the
engine
> started then moving or pulling cables until the engine stops.
>
> I would start by checking the cables for anywhere where the
insulation might
> have worn through. Next I would pull apart the right-hand handlebar
switch
> and look for broken or nearly-broken connections. Lastly I would get
the
> bike into a state where it won't start then using the wiring diagram
and a
> continuity tester or multimeter, check each of the wires that has
something
> to do with the ignition and kill switches.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -John Avis
>
> >From: "ariel_mermaid40" <jeremsevic@h...>
> >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> >To: suzuki250fours@...
> >Subject: [suzuki250fours] problem
> >Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:07:36 -0000
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >This is embrassing.... but i have got another problem with my gf250.
> >
> >This morning when i went out to the city for a haircut, everytime when
> >i attempt to a left turn and i make a full lock to the left, the
> >engine is killed off. i ignored the problem and had my haircut and
> >think i would be better to sort out the problem back home. when i
> >reach home, i went to take a bath, and afterwards decided to go
> >school. i find that i cannot start the bike. there's no electricity
> >when the ignator key is put at "on" position. however, if i turn the
> >handlebar to a full lock position to the left, there will be
> >elctricity, and i can start the bike with no problem. the problem is
> >that when i return the handlebar to it's normal straight postion, the
> >engine is killed off.
> >
> >any idea what's the problem? i've checked the cables. but not to sure
> >what to do.
> >
> >regards
> >jeremy
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> >
> >
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Jeremy,

I guess it must be a break in one of the wires running to the handlebars or
a bad connection at the ignition or kill switch.

It may help to isolate the problem to a smaller area by getting the engine
started then moving or pulling cables until the engine stops.

I would start by checking the cables for anywhere where the insulation might
have worn through. Next I would pull apart the right-hand handlebar switch
and look for broken or nearly-broken connections. Lastly I would get the
bike into a state where it won't start then using the wiring diagram and a
continuity tester or multimeter, check each of the wires that has something
to do with the ignition and kill switches.

Good luck.

-John Avis

>From: "ariel_mermaid40" <jeremsevic@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] problem
>Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:07:36 -0000
>
>Hi,
>
>This is embrassing.... but i have got another problem with my gf250.
>
>This morning when i went out to the city for a haircut, everytime when
>i attempt to a left turn and i make a full lock to the left, the
>engine is killed off. i ignored the problem and had my haircut and
>think i would be better to sort out the problem back home. when i
>reach home, i went to take a bath, and afterwards decided to go
>school. i find that i cannot start the bike. there's no electricity
>when the ignator key is put at "on" position. however, if i turn the
>handlebar to a full lock position to the left, there will be
>elctricity, and i can start the bike with no problem. the problem is
>that when i return the handlebar to it's normal straight postion, the
>engine is killed off.
>
>any idea what's the problem? i've checked the cables. but not to sure
>what to do.
>
>regards
>jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi,

This is embrassing.... but i have got another problem with my gf250.

This morning when i went out to the city for a haircut, everytime when
i attempt to a left turn and i make a full lock to the left, the
engine is killed off. i ignored the problem and had my haircut and
think i would be better to sort out the problem back home. when i
reach home, i went to take a bath, and afterwards decided to go
school. i find that i cannot start the bike. there's no electricity
when the ignator key is put at "on" position. however, if i turn the
handlebar to a full lock position to the left, there will be
elctricity, and i can start the bike with no problem. the problem is
that when i return the handlebar to it's normal straight postion, the
engine is killed off.

any idea what's the problem? i've checked the cables. but not to sure
what to do.

regards
jeremy

Maybe I cant send an attachment to the group.

Instead, I have uploaded the file to the group page:
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/suzuki250fours/files/gf-oil-change.pdf

-John Avis


>From: "ariel_mermaid40" <jeremsevic@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] Re: oil filter
>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:35:54 -0000
>
>Hi John,
>
>Did you forget to attach the file? i dunn see any attachment.
>
>Jeremy
>
>--- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis"
><john_avis@h...> wrote:
> > Hi Jeremy,
> >
> > I wrote a short procedure for oil change on a GF250 a long time
>ago. I have
> > attached it, hopefully it is of some use.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Avis
> >
> >
> > >From: "ariel_mermaid40" <jeremsevic@h...>
> > >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> > >To: suzuki250fours@...
> > >Subject: [suzuki250fours] oil filter
> > >Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:12:07 -0000
> > >
> > >hi,
> > >
> > >i have being reading the manual about changing the oil filter.
>but i'm
> > >little confused with the mention of oil pressure valve and stuff.
> > >what's the big deal about the presure valve and all the mention
>of oil
> > >pressure in the manual? can anyone give me a simple protocol on
>oil
> > >filter change and what to look out for. thanks heaps!!!
> > >
> > >by the way, what is the routine maintenance you guys do for your
>bike?
> > >
> > >Jeremy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi John,

Did you forget to attach the file? i dunn see any attachment.

Jeremy

--- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis"
<john_avis@h...> wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> I wrote a short procedure for oil change on a GF250 a long time
ago. I have
> attached it, hopefully it is of some use.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Avis
>
>
> >From: "ariel_mermaid40" <jeremsevic@h...>
> >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> >To: suzuki250fours@...
> >Subject: [suzuki250fours] oil filter
> >Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:12:07 -0000
> >
> >hi,
> >
> >i have being reading the manual about changing the oil filter.
but i'm
> >little confused with the mention of oil pressure valve and stuff.
> >what's the big deal about the presure valve and all the mention
of oil
> >pressure in the manual? can anyone give me a simple protocol on
oil
> >filter change and what to look out for. thanks heaps!!!
> >
> >by the way, what is the routine maintenance you guys do for your
bike?
> >
> >Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Jeremy,

I wrote a short procedure for oil change on a GF250 a long time ago. I have
attached it, hopefully it is of some use.

Regards,

John Avis


>From: "ariel_mermaid40" <jeremsevic@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] oil filter
>Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:12:07 -0000
>
>hi,
>
>i have being reading the manual about changing the oil filter. but i'm
>little confused with the mention of oil pressure valve and stuff.
>what's the big deal about the presure valve and all the mention of oil
>pressure in the manual? can anyone give me a simple protocol on oil
>filter change and what to look out for. thanks heaps!!!
>
>by the way, what is the routine maintenance you guys do for your bike?
>
>Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hi,

i have being reading the manual about changing the oil filter. but i'm
little confused with the mention of oil pressure valve and stuff.
what's the big deal about the presure valve and all the mention of oil
pressure in the manual? can anyone give me a simple protocol on oil
filter change and what to look out for. thanks heaps!!!

by the way, what is the routine maintenance you guys do for your bike?

Jeremy

May have access to GS250FW parts please email me if you are interested!

Location: Tamworth NSW

Parts: Near complete bike.

Thanks for the advise, handy to know!

SV650 that's exactly what i was thinking of.... For cutting in half!
No seriously as a reverse Trike!

I take it you own one what are they like?

Good tip, swiss watches, I'll take note of that.!

4th gear in town, 6th on the highway but 3rd to eccellerate.
By gosh I think I got it.


--- In suzuki250fours@..., "Jim Richardson"
<jimr@o...> wrote:
> I used to own a GF250 previously. I can only say that I actually
found that it would happily putt around town in 5th, though I found
4th in town a bit more flexible...Its months since I rode it, so I
can't remember the relevant revs - perhaps 4000? The really useable
POWER kicks in over 8000, but the torque (what there is of
it...*LOL*), is a bit lower down. My GF had a flat spot between 7000
and 8000, though I understand the earlier GS had a different power
spread. If it's like the GF, you'll find you can happily cruise along
in 6th at 80kph...except when you encounter a hill ( or a strong
headwind!!), when you'll have to drop back into 3rd!
> Being a four, though, you'll find it very smooth, even if you are
making it lug. To be honest  given the age of the bike I wouldn't be
thrashing it too much , nor making it labour in too high a gear at
low revs - a happy medium will make you and it happy! Rely on the
brakes and nifty handling rather than power to avoid accidents!!
> Check a wreckers for someting that'll do the tailight job - you'll
probably find something that you can squeeze in - even if it's off a
Honda 50. Doesn't have to be flash as long as it's cheap, 'cos you
can track down a genuine one later at your leisure.
> Those motors are like swiss watches - that's why they need good
oil/foam filters. The oil attracts and traps the dust as it flies
past.
> Have fun on your 'L's, enjoy your P's , and when you graduate, try
a Suzuki SV650 - you won't regret it!
>
>
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I used to own a GF250 previously. I can only say that I actually found that it
would happily putt around town in 5th, though I found 4th in town a bit more
flexible...Its months since I rode it, so I can't remember the relevant revs -
perhaps 4000? The really useable POWER kicks in over 8000, but the torque (what
there is of it...*LOL*), is a bit lower down. My GF had a flat spot between 7000
and 8000, though I understand the earlier GS had a different power spread. If
it's like the GF, you'll find you can happily cruise along in 6th at
80kph...except when you encounter a hill ( or a strong headwind!!), when you'll
have to drop back into 3rd!
Being a four, though, you'll find it very smooth, even if you are making it lug.
To be honest  given the age of the bike I wouldn't be thrashing it too much ,
nor making it labour in too high a gear at low revs - a happy medium will make
you and it happy! Rely on the brakes and nifty handling rather than power to
avoid accidents!!
Check a wreckers for someting that'll do the tailight job - you'll probably find
something that you can squeeze in - even if it's off a Honda 50. Doesn't have to
be flash as long as it's cheap, 'cos you can track down a genuine one later at
your leisure.
Those motors are like swiss watches - that's why they need good oil/foam
filters. The oil attracts and traps the dust as it flies past.
Have fun on your 'L's, enjoy your P's , and when you graduate, try a Suzuki
SV650 - you won't regret it!


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6-8000 rpm putting ?

My car redlines at 6krpm !

So if I tried to ride my bike at 3krpm it would just stall?

This must be why they aren't so good on fuel?

What rpm is considered flogging?

What is the life expectancy of such a bike km?



--- In suzuki250fours@..., "tiamay" <tiamay@b...>
wrote:
> Hi, not sure on you revs but my 250gf red lines at 13,000..and is
good for putting about at around 6 to 8 thousand revs. It has a dead
spot between 8 and 8,700 but after that hang on. They are set up to
giv best performance at around 10./11. thou. I just give my bike a
mid life paint job and i used a high temp black paint ( in a spray
can ) that i got from bunnings, its desined for manifolds and headers.
> Good luck with you bike they are a lot of fun...
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: casper05james
>   To: suzuki250fours@...
>   Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:51 AM
>   Subject: [suzuki250fours] Re: 84 GS250FW-S
>
>
>   My bike reads 11,500rpm redline, but I read somewhere that they
are
>   10% out which makes it 10,350rpm redline.
>
>   I am not a speed demon and for that matter am partially afraid of
>   riding the bike in the first place!
>
>   So they run best at 5000rpm but will they put around town at
lower
>   rpm's, if so what is the lowest rpm at what speed, will they do
>   60km/h in top gear? I weigh only 50-60kg
>
>   I also found on another site that someone ran a dyno test and
found
>   less than a 5% change by fiting a high flow exhaust system, in NM
>   that is. So I won't worry about any fancy exhaust setups.
>
>   Does anyone know why they use a oil bathed air filter?
>
>   Apart from being incredibly restrictive I can only denote that
its
>   for catching fine dust particles. Is this a big problem anyway?
>
>   My old mower had a similar setup but it's stiring up large
amounts of
>   dust all of the time.
>
>   I will have the exhaust repaired and converted into 4/1 and run a
>   single 2" chromed Turbo muffler with silencer @$99 it's cheaper
than
>   a bike muffler and will offer a softer note!
>
>   I also need the rear stop lamp!
>
>   Does anybody know what will fit or what I can use for rego
purposes?
>
>
>
>
>
>   --- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis"
>   <john_avis@h...> wrote:
>   > The GF250 (and presumably the GS250FW) has a 13000 redline..
Like
>   many 4
>   > cylinder 250s they operate best at higher revs, usually above
>   5000rpm. The
>   > gearing encourages riding at higher speeds anyway.
>   >
>   > I doubt any exhaust changes you make would make a noticable
>   difference to
>   > power or torque.
>   >
>   > If I was in your shoes I would ring around every motorcycle
wrecker
>   in
>   > Australia and try and get a second hand exhaust system. Its
been a
>   while
>   > since I looked but I used to see wreckers advertising wrecked
>   GS250FW's in
>   > the motorcycle trader magazines on occasions.
>   >
>   > -John Avis
>
>
>
>
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Once again thankyou.

I should imagine that I will have to rejet as the exhaust will not be
standard anyway. Also I can only fit 2 filters not 4, and the K&N pod
filter was the one i was refering to. So it looks like I may have
been on the right path.?

So for safety reasons 5,000rpm is recomended!
I will be a "L" plater meaning top speed of 80km/h @ 4,000rpm
will the bike do this or is 6th gear for freeway use only?
At what point does the motor labour, rpm?

I read that turbo motors need to be fuel injected otherwise by by
valves! So the cost outweighs the benefit for a 250 I would imagine.

Also what tyre pressures are recomended and what preload?

What's the deal with cv carbs, what benefits do they have and what
disadvantages do thay have?? K&N said that more advantages can be
found with standard carburettors than the cv type?


--- In suzuki250fours@..., Carl Johnston
<cjohnston@b...> wrote:
> Hi There,
>
> You'll find that the bike has more usable power (for a 250) above
5krpm,
> I'd be keeping it above that - just in case you need to accelerate
away
> from someone, and to keep from lugging the motor.
>
> Turbo GS250FW!  If you've got the cash, then go for it :P
>
> As for the air-filter, the one in mine has a foam filter around a
> plastic cage, and it's supposed to be soaked in oil and squeezed
clean.
> This is so that fine dust can stick to the oil, and more dust
sticks to
> that dust - eventually it will restrict flow (as all air filters
do),
> but you can't clean a paper filter..
>
> If you're feeling adventurous, you could try fitting four small
filters
> (to each carb intake), or one big (onto the front half of the air
box)
> filter - but I bet that this will stuff the fueling, and you'll
have to
> get it tuned/jetted on a dyno/a.f. meeter, or stuff around with
needle
> positions:
>
> http://www.uniflow.com.au/universal_pod.asp
> http://www.showandgo.com.au/per/K&N.htm?K&N_bf.htm~mainFrame
>
> The air filters are VERY important for keeping your motor running
good.
> Just imagine what one sand grain is going to do to the inside of
your
> motor!
>
> As john said, the exhaust is not the limiting factor with this
bike, I'm
> pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong) that it's the 250cc part :P
>
> You'll have to call around wreckers for a tail light, if you want
it to
> match. You'll also probably get away with an after-market one (go
to the
> local bike shop) from a dirt bike or something - no idea about the
> legalities :)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Carl
>
> On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 23:51 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> > My bike reads 11,500rpm redline, but I read somewhere that they
are
> > 10% out which makes it 10,350rpm redline.
> >
> > I am not a speed demon and for that matter am partially afraid of
> > riding the bike in the first place!
> >
> > So they run best at 5000rpm but will they put around town at
lower
> > rpm's, if so what is the lowest rpm at what speed, will they do
> > 60km/h in top gear? I weigh only 50-60kg
> >
> > I also found on another site that someone ran a dyno test and
found
> > less than a 5% change by fiting a high flow exhaust system, in NM
> > that is. So I won't worry about any fancy exhaust setups.
> >
> > Does anyone know why they use a oil bathed air filter?
> >
> > Apart from being incredibly restrictive I can only denote that
its
> > for catching fine dust particles. Is this a big problem anyway?
> >
> > My old mower had a similar setup but it's stiring up large
amounts of
> > dust all of the time.
> >
> > I will have the exhaust repaired and converted into 4/1 and run a
> > single 2" chromed Turbo muffler with silencer @$99 it's cheaper
than
> > a bike muffler and will offer a softer note!
> >
> > I also need the rear stop lamp!
> >
> > Does anybody know what will fit or what I can use for rego
purposes?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis"
> > <john_avis@h...> wrote:
> > > The GF250 (and presumably the GS250FW) has a 13000 redline..
Like
> > many 4
> > > cylinder 250s they operate best at higher revs, usually above
> > 5000rpm. The
> > > gearing encourages riding at higher speeds anyway.
> > >
> > > I doubt any exhaust changes you make would make a noticable
> > difference to
> > > power or torque.
> > >
> > > If I was in your shoes I would ring around every motorcycle
wrecker
> > in
> > > Australia and try and get a second hand exhaust system. Its
been a
> > while
> > > since I looked but I used to see wreckers advertising wrecked
> > GS250FW's in
> > > the motorcycle trader magazines on occasions.
> > >
> > > -John Avis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Hi, not sure on you revs but my 250gf red lines at 13,000..and is good for
putting about at around 6 to 8 thousand revs. It has a dead spot between 8 and
8,700 but after that hang on. They are set up to giv best performance at around
10./11. thou. I just give my bike a mid life paint job and i used a high temp
black paint ( in a spray can ) that i got from bunnings, its desined for
manifolds and headers.
Good luck with you bike they are a lot of fun...
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: casper05james
   To: suzuki250fours@...
   Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:51 AM
   Subject: [suzuki250fours] Re: 84 GS250FW-S


   My bike reads 11,500rpm redline, but I read somewhere that they are
   10% out which makes it 10,350rpm redline.

   I am not a speed demon and for that matter am partially afraid of
   riding the bike in the first place!

   So they run best at 5000rpm but will they put around town at lower
   rpm's, if so what is the lowest rpm at what speed, will they do
   60km/h in top gear? I weigh only 50-60kg

   I also found on another site that someone ran a dyno test and found
   less than a 5% change by fiting a high flow exhaust system, in NM
   that is. So I won't worry about any fancy exhaust setups.

   Does anyone know why they use a oil bathed air filter?

   Apart from being incredibly restrictive I can only denote that its
   for catching fine dust particles. Is this a big problem anyway?

   My old mower had a similar setup but it's stiring up large amounts of
   dust all of the time.

   I will have the exhaust repaired and converted into 4/1 and run a
   single 2" chromed Turbo muffler with silencer @$99 it's cheaper than
   a bike muffler and will offer a softer note!

   I also need the rear stop lamp!

   Does anybody know what will fit or what I can use for rego purposes?





   --- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis"
   <john_avis@h...> wrote:
   > The GF250 (and presumably the GS250FW) has a 13000 redline.. Like
   many 4
   > cylinder 250s they operate best at higher revs, usually above
   5000rpm. The
   > gearing encourages riding at higher speeds anyway.
   >
   > I doubt any exhaust changes you make would make a noticable
   difference to
   > power or torque.
   >
   > If I was in your shoes I would ring around every motorcycle wrecker
   in
   > Australia and try and get a second hand exhaust system. Its been a
   while
   > since I looked but I used to see wreckers advertising wrecked
   GS250FW's in
   > the motorcycle trader magazines on occasions.
   >
   > -John Avis




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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi There,

You'll find that the bike has more usable power (for a 250) above 5krpm,
I'd be keeping it above that - just in case you need to accelerate away
from someone, and to keep from lugging the motor.

Turbo GS250FW!  If you've got the cash, then go for it :P

As for the air-filter, the one in mine has a foam filter around a
plastic cage, and it's supposed to be soaked in oil and squeezed clean.
This is so that fine dust can stick to the oil, and more dust sticks to
that dust - eventually it will restrict flow (as all air filters do),
but you can't clean a paper filter..

If you're feeling adventurous, you could try fitting four small filters
(to each carb intake), or one big (onto the front half of the air box)
filter - but I bet that this will stuff the fueling, and you'll have to
get it tuned/jetted on a dyno/a.f. meeter, or stuff around with needle
positions:

http://www.uniflow.com.au/universal_pod.asp
http://www.showandgo.com.au/per/K&N.htm?K&N_bf.htm~mainFrame

The air filters are VERY important for keeping your motor running good.
Just imagine what one sand grain is going to do to the inside of your
motor!

As john said, the exhaust is not the limiting factor with this bike, I'm
pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong) that it's the 250cc part :P

You'll have to call around wreckers for a tail light, if you want it to
match. You'll also probably get away with an after-market one (go to the
local bike shop) from a dirt bike or something - no idea about the
legalities :)


Cheers,


Carl

On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 23:51 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> My bike reads 11,500rpm redline, but I read somewhere that they are
> 10% out which makes it 10,350rpm redline.
>
> I am not a speed demon and for that matter am partially afraid of
> riding the bike in the first place!
>
> So they run best at 5000rpm but will they put around town at lower
> rpm's, if so what is the lowest rpm at what speed, will they do
> 60km/h in top gear? I weigh only 50-60kg
>
> I also found on another site that someone ran a dyno test and found
> less than a 5% change by fiting a high flow exhaust system, in NM
> that is. So I won't worry about any fancy exhaust setups.
>
> Does anyone know why they use a oil bathed air filter?
>
> Apart from being incredibly restrictive I can only denote that its
> for catching fine dust particles. Is this a big problem anyway?
>
> My old mower had a similar setup but it's stiring up large amounts of
> dust all of the time.
>
> I will have the exhaust repaired and converted into 4/1 and run a
> single 2" chromed Turbo muffler with silencer @$99 it's cheaper than
> a bike muffler and will offer a softer note!
>
> I also need the rear stop lamp!
>
> Does anybody know what will fit or what I can use for rego purposes?
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis"
> <john_avis@h...> wrote:
> > The GF250 (and presumably the GS250FW) has a 13000 redline.. Like
> many 4
> > cylinder 250s they operate best at higher revs, usually above
> 5000rpm. The
> > gearing encourages riding at higher speeds anyway.
> >
> > I doubt any exhaust changes you make would make a noticable
> difference to
> > power or torque.
> >
> > If I was in your shoes I would ring around every motorcycle wrecker
> in
> > Australia and try and get a second hand exhaust system. Its been a
> while
> > since I looked but I used to see wreckers advertising wrecked
> GS250FW's in
> > the motorcycle trader magazines on occasions.
> >
> > -John Avis
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

My bike reads 11,500rpm redline, but I read somewhere that they are
10% out which makes it 10,350rpm redline.

I am not a speed demon and for that matter am partially afraid of
riding the bike in the first place!

So they run best at 5000rpm but will they put around town at lower
rpm's, if so what is the lowest rpm at what speed, will they do
60km/h in top gear? I weigh only 50-60kg

I also found on another site that someone ran a dyno test and found
less than a 5% change by fiting a high flow exhaust system, in NM
that is. So I won't worry about any fancy exhaust setups.

Does anyone know why they use a oil bathed air filter?

Apart from being incredibly restrictive I can only denote that its
for catching fine dust particles. Is this a big problem anyway?

My old mower had a similar setup but it's stiring up large amounts of
dust all of the time.

I will have the exhaust repaired and converted into 4/1 and run a
single 2" chromed Turbo muffler with silencer @$99 it's cheaper than
a bike muffler and will offer a softer note!

I also need the rear stop lamp!

Does anybody know what will fit or what I can use for rego purposes?





--- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis"
<john_avis@h...> wrote:
> The GF250 (and presumably the GS250FW) has a 13000 redline.. Like
many 4
> cylinder 250s they operate best at higher revs, usually above
5000rpm. The
> gearing encourages riding at higher speeds anyway.
>
> I doubt any exhaust changes you make would make a noticable
difference to
> power or torque.
>
> If I was in your shoes I would ring around every motorcycle wrecker
in
> Australia and try and get a second hand exhaust system. Its been a
while
> since I looked but I used to see wreckers advertising wrecked
GS250FW's in
> the motorcycle trader magazines on occasions.
>
> -John Avis

The GF250 (and presumably the GS250FW) has a 13000 redline.. Like many 4
cylinder 250s they operate best at higher revs, usually above 5000rpm. The
gearing encourages riding at higher speeds anyway.

I doubt any exhaust changes you make would make a noticable difference to
power or torque.

If I was in your shoes I would ring around every motorcycle wrecker in
Australia and try and get a second hand exhaust system. Its been a while
since I looked but I used to see wreckers advertising wrecked GS250FW's in
the motorcycle trader magazines on occasions.

-John Avis

BUGGER!

I forgot to check the diaphrams!- They did look good though jammed
with babypoo coloured crap!

I was wondering if another suzuki 4 would fit??-ACROSS-GF???

Due to a lack of patience I will have to rig up, another filter
system! Perhaps a pod filter from a car would work??

As for options as to what pipe i can use there is nothing in
tamworth, so maybe someone can suggest somewhere within Sydney to
brisbane area???

Otherwise I was thinking of refabricating the headers......
"4 into 1 into 2"
And using twin 2" turbo mufflers from a car!

In theory this would allow greater torque, but.... I can't be sure as
to what factors affect these engines.

Someone (not from this site) suggested TURBO!???
And I just shat!

As I needed a new set of headers anyway and was looking for more down
low torque he thought it was an option,

The thought just scares me!

I read on the internet that these bikes have no power below 5,000rpm
and the torque does not arrive untill 9,000rpm.

I was wanting to ride at about 3-4000rpm will they do it?

The carbs are back in the bike and the headers are off awaiting reply
from you guys thanks heaps, you saved me heaps-so far $300


--- In suzuki250fours@..., Carl Johnston
<cjohnston@b...> wrote:
> Excellent :)
>
> Those air boxes are a PITA..  I found that I could pull the carbs
out
> before the air box with quite a bit of force, but it is hard :)
Someone
> else might have some tips for this.. ?
>
> While you're doing the carbs, make sure you check the rubber
diaphram's
> for the slides carefully for any holes or tears - you can use a
torch
> behind them and look through them for any light.. You might also
find
> this site worth the look:
>
> http://au.geocities.com/ozcross250/
>
> Specifically:
>
> http://au.geocities.com/ozcross250/holder.html and;
> http://au.geocities.com/ozcross250/needles.html
>
> As for paint, you could go to any hardware store (Bunnings) and you
> should be able to get some high-heat paint that's used on
engine's.. I
> think they call it engine paint, comes in a spray pack and in quite
a
> few colours..  Ask the sales person about any prep-work you might
have
> to do before spraying (undercoat/sanding/prepsol etc).
>
> As for the muffler, I think there'd be a few options there.  You
could:
> a) Go get some stock mufflers that aren't rusted (good luck!)
> b) Get some mufflers from a similar Suzuki (they might fit!) from a
>    wreckers
> c) Get the exhaust modified to a 4-into-1, and grab an after-market
can
>    from the wreckers/new or one from another 250..
> c2) You MIGHT find that the Across headers fit, they're already a
>    4-into-1, and you could just get a pipe/can custom fit on the
end.
>
> If you're still looking for an Across manual, try here:
>
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SuzukiAcross/files/
>
>
> Let us know how you go! :)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Carl
>
> On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 10:31 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> > Thanks, The carb cleaner worked so well it stripped the paint
clean
> > of the carbs!!!
> >
> > It took me almost 2 HRS to get the air filter box out???
> > Not sure how you are supposed to get those darn things out!
> >
> > All blockages have been cleaned out except for one seized piston
in
> > the carb, so I'll have to pull the darn thing apart! Luckily you
guys
> > were here to give me the PDF on how the carbs pull apart!
> >
> > Does anyone know the paint they use on the carbs/engine/headers???
> >
> > I am pretty sure that anything i try will just burn from the
heat...
> > Any suggestions???
> >
> > Any suggestions on cheap mufflers... preferably the quite kind???
> >
> > Thanks Heaps,
> >
> >  ROB
> >
> > --- In suzuki250fours@..., Carl Johnston
> > <cjohnston@b...> wrote:
> > > The Across has (what I believe to be) a later version of what's
in
> > the
> > > GS250FW, the manual won't help you with specifics (valve
clearances
> > > etc), but it will help with engine and carbs.  It's better
> > illustrated
> > > and quite useful when used with the GS250FW manual.  I've also
> > browsed
> > > the Across forums in search of some troubleshooting advice,
which
> > > carries over quite well.
> > >
> > > Carb cleaner you'll get from any auto parts store (SuperCheap,
> > Autobahn,
> > > Burson's etc) and usually runs at about $8 for a spray can.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 01:21 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> > > > Thankyou Carl,
> > > >
> > > > I downloaded the PDF's They were helpful!
> > > > Do you know if the Across has alot in commen or just the
carbs?
> > > > Also where would I find this carb cleaner it sounds like it
might
> > > > save my skin?
> > > >
> > > > --- In suzuki250fours@..., Carl Johnston
> > > > <cjohnston@b...> wrote:
> > > > > Assuming that you'll be doing this yourself, I'd recommend
you
> > > > download
> > > > > the workshop manual from this site - then go and look for a
> > GSX250F
> > > > > (Across) manual as the carbs are very similar (and the
diagrams
> > in
> > > > this
> > > > > manual are a lot better).
> > > > >
> > > > > Pulling them out of the bike is more difficult than
cleaning
> > them -
> > > > it's
> > > > > a rather tight squeeze in there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once you've got them out, just pull them down (one at a
time)
> > and
> > > > > methodically store all the pieces in separate trays,
cleaning
> > them
> > > > as
> > > > > you go - just make a mental note (or a digital camera comes
in
> > > > handy) of
> > > > > where everything goes, and how it goes together.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are three adjustments on these carbs - Syncing the
> > throttle
> > > > > between them, needle positions, and air jet positions.  You
> > > > shouldn't
> > > > > need to touch the carb sync screw (though I recommend
syncing
> > them
> > > > > afterward) or mess with the needle positions.  As for the
air
> > jets,
> > > > just
> > > > > count the number of turns it takes to screw each of them in
> > > > (softly!),
> > > > > and set them back to that when you're done.
> > > > >
> > > > > The rest of the cleaning is just a matter of either soaking
the
> > > > parts in
> > > > > carb-cleaner, or spraying the passages with carb-cleaner.
> > > > Everything
> > > > > should be blown dry with compressed air..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Either that, or you could just take them to a shop to do :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you end up getting exhaust pipes for your bike?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 09:01 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> > > > > > Got it for $300.
> > > > > > Needs carbs rebuilt due to fuel blokage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The bike is near new, black in colour and only 20,000km.
> > > > > > Garaged since 1993.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another $500 and i'll have it registered.
> > > > > > On the road for meisly $800!
> > > > > > And I'll be able to sell it for $1500 easy- quoted $1999
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know a good way to clean out a fuel blockage?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Excellent :)

Those air boxes are a PITA..  I found that I could pull the carbs out
before the air box with quite a bit of force, but it is hard :)  Someone
else might have some tips for this.. ?

While you're doing the carbs, make sure you check the rubber diaphram's
for the slides carefully for any holes or tears - you can use a torch
behind them and look through them for any light.. You might also find
this site worth the look:

http://au.geocities.com/ozcross250/

Specifically:

http://au.geocities.com/ozcross250/holder.html and;
http://au.geocities.com/ozcross250/needles.html

As for paint, you could go to any hardware store (Bunnings) and you
should be able to get some high-heat paint that's used on engine's.. I
think they call it engine paint, comes in a spray pack and in quite a
few colours..  Ask the sales person about any prep-work you might have
to do before spraying (undercoat/sanding/prepsol etc).

As for the muffler, I think there'd be a few options there.  You could:
a) Go get some stock mufflers that aren't rusted (good luck!)
b) Get some mufflers from a similar Suzuki (they might fit!) from a
    wreckers
c) Get the exhaust modified to a 4-into-1, and grab an after-market can
    from the wreckers/new or one from another 250..
c2) You MIGHT find that the Across headers fit, they're already a
    4-into-1, and you could just get a pipe/can custom fit on the end.

If you're still looking for an Across manual, try here:

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SuzukiAcross/files/


Let us know how you go! :)


Cheers,


Carl

On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 10:31 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> Thanks, The carb cleaner worked so well it stripped the paint clean
> of the carbs!!!
>
> It took me almost 2 HRS to get the air filter box out???
> Not sure how you are supposed to get those darn things out!
>
> All blockages have been cleaned out except for one seized piston in
> the carb, so I'll have to pull the darn thing apart! Luckily you guys
> were here to give me the PDF on how the carbs pull apart!
>
> Does anyone know the paint they use on the carbs/engine/headers???
>
> I am pretty sure that anything i try will just burn from the heat...
> Any suggestions???
>
> Any suggestions on cheap mufflers... preferably the quite kind???
>
> Thanks Heaps,
>
>  ROB
>
> --- In suzuki250fours@..., Carl Johnston
> <cjohnston@b...> wrote:
> > The Across has (what I believe to be) a later version of what's in
> the
> > GS250FW, the manual won't help you with specifics (valve clearances
> > etc), but it will help with engine and carbs.  It's better
> illustrated
> > and quite useful when used with the GS250FW manual.  I've also
> browsed
> > the Across forums in search of some troubleshooting advice, which
> > carries over quite well.
> >
> > Carb cleaner you'll get from any auto parts store (SuperCheap,
> Autobahn,
> > Burson's etc) and usually runs at about $8 for a spray can.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 01:21 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> > > Thankyou Carl,
> > >
> > > I downloaded the PDF's They were helpful!
> > > Do you know if the Across has alot in commen or just the carbs?
> > > Also where would I find this carb cleaner it sounds like it might
> > > save my skin?
> > >
> > > --- In suzuki250fours@..., Carl Johnston
> > > <cjohnston@b...> wrote:
> > > > Assuming that you'll be doing this yourself, I'd recommend you
> > > download
> > > > the workshop manual from this site - then go and look for a
> GSX250F
> > > > (Across) manual as the carbs are very similar (and the diagrams
> in
> > > this
> > > > manual are a lot better).
> > > >
> > > > Pulling them out of the bike is more difficult than cleaning
> them -
> > > it's
> > > > a rather tight squeeze in there.
> > > >
> > > > Once you've got them out, just pull them down (one at a time)
> and
> > > > methodically store all the pieces in separate trays, cleaning
> them
> > > as
> > > > you go - just make a mental note (or a digital camera comes in
> > > handy) of
> > > > where everything goes, and how it goes together.
> > > >
> > > > There are three adjustments on these carbs - Syncing the
> throttle
> > > > between them, needle positions, and air jet positions.  You
> > > shouldn't
> > > > need to touch the carb sync screw (though I recommend syncing
> them
> > > > afterward) or mess with the needle positions.  As for the air
> jets,
> > > just
> > > > count the number of turns it takes to screw each of them in
> > > (softly!),
> > > > and set them back to that when you're done.
> > > >
> > > > The rest of the cleaning is just a matter of either soaking the
> > > parts in
> > > > carb-cleaner, or spraying the passages with carb-cleaner.
> > > Everything
> > > > should be blown dry with compressed air..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Either that, or you could just take them to a shop to do :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you end up getting exhaust pipes for your bike?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 09:01 +0000, casper05james wrote:
> > > > > Got it for $300.
> > > > > Needs carbs rebuilt due to fuel blokage.
> > > > >
> > > > > The bike is near new, black in colour and only 20,000km.
> > > > > Garaged since 1993.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another $500 and i'll have it registered.
> > > > > On the road for meisly $800!
> > > > > And I'll be able to sell it for $1500 easy- quoted $1999
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know a good way to clean out a fuel blockage?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>