Hi Grant,
What year's your Katana? You might find that it's similar to the
GSX250F (Across), which I think was around since '91. The GS250FW and
GF250 have early variations on this engine - from what I understand.
Cheers,
Carl
--- In suzuki250fours@..., "grant" <ozguy_01b@y...> wrote:
>
> hey guys!! i reckon you must have bikes rarer than rocking horse
> shit .
> i owned one for a very short time-it was stolen-back in 1983
> blew the door off my old gt250 and gave the "new "rz250 a fright
>
> my question-is the motor the same as that in the "newish"250 katanas?
> i have 3 pop up headlight 750s and the boys in the club have several
> 250's between them but we cant locate a workshop manual.
>
> i have only just though of looking to see if there was aa user group
> for this rare model and bingo here you are!!
>
> cheers guys
> grant truman melbourne australia
hey guys!! i reckon you must have bikes rarer than rocking horse
shit .
i owned one for a very short time-it was stolen-back in 1983
blew the door off my old gt250 and gave the "new "rz250 a fright
my question-is the motor the same as that in the "newish"250 katanas?
i have 3 pop up headlight 750s and the boys in the club have several
250's between them but we cant locate a workshop manual.
i have only just though of looking to see if there was aa user group
for this rare model and bingo here you are!!
cheers guys
grant truman melbourne australia
There is a GS250FW on eBay that somebody might be interested in for
parts or for repair. Presently $300.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=32625&item=2495884703&rd=1
Hi Gary, I have the same problem with my bike. A friend has put me onto a
ex-mechanic who for 14 years worked for porche and ferrari and he fix's
cars/bikes for pure enjoyment, for a small fee of course. Hoping to take my bike
to him in about a week so once he finds the prob I can email you if you like.
Regards,
Anthony
garrym_au <garrym@...> wrote:
I have a problem. My motor runs very well, that is as long as it's
kept above 2800 rpm. I have looked for air leaks, but not found any. I
am not a carb expert, but they look OK. Any help would be appreciated.
GarryM
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Hi Garry,
I see your concern...the carbs do seem to be a nightmare at times..I've had
problems myself were as it would start perfect then i would try ride and would
not get up and go till after about 5500 rpm...so my discovery which I'm sure is
going to be yours...check the choke needles and see if there is carbon build-up
around them if so use 1200 grit waterproof sand paper and clean them till they
are like goldish looking.. also so that you know make sure that the Diaphragms
rubbers have no cracks...you never mentioned how you know the carbie is OK you
sure the floats height is correct ( example 20mm +/- 1mm) and make sure that the
Pilot jet ( 30 marked ) is not slightly blocked and the Pilot air jet is clean
too ( marked 160) on the jet the two main one's either side of the float..Note:
it wouldn't harm to actually clean the Plunger Pistons connected to Diaphragms
with 1200 grit sand paper.. also you mentioned idling idling screw is
between the carbs adjust so its about 1250 -1300
rpm ...hope this is some help
Safe riding
Brendon.
I have a problem. My motor runs very well, that is as long as it's
kept above 2800 rpm. I have looked for air leaks, but not found any. I
am not a carb expert, but they look OK. Any help would be appreciated.
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I have a problem. My motor runs very well, that is as long as it's
kept above 2800 rpm. I have looked for air leaks, but not found any. I
am not a carb expert, but they look OK. Any help would be appreciated.
GarryM
Hi Malcom, send me your postal address and ill send
you one, iv a couple kicking about here which are
spare, no worries mate, all the best, Craig.
--- wallacemalcolm <wallacemalcolm@...>
wrote:
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Hi
I am still trying to get my 83 gs250fwd going. I have
it in a gokart.
I am currently missing a spring out of a carbie that
pushes the
diaphram up. The part is not made anymore by Suzuki, I
have
called lots of places in Melbourne but still no luck.
Any ideas??
Malcolm
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Hi
I am still trying to get my 83 gs250fwd going. I have it in a gokart.
I am currently missing a spring out of a carbie that pushes the
diaphram up. The part is not made anymore by Suzuki, I have
called lots of places in Melbourne but still no luck. Any ideas??
Malcolm
Hi I am John I have just aquired a 85 gf, are they suposed to be as
flat. the gsfw I had in the 80s didnt feel as flat.how are these for
spares in he uk.
thanks Psycho
I don't know much about them at all. I just recently bought one [not running
for various reasons] and I am trying to get it going. Do you have a manual?
If not follow the link below and d/load it - be patient though it could take
some time. Hope this helps.
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/suzuki250fours/files/
ps. you may have to register to gain access.
GarryM
0403070899
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brendan K" <konings_brendan@...>
To: <suzuki250fours@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:20 PM
Subject: [suzuki250fours] My newly purchased GS250FW
> Howdy, I have just recently picked up a GS250FW that runs, but not
> all that well, it only starts with full choke and keeps dying, It
> turns out that one of the cylanders only has 24 psi and a second, has
> next to nothing,
>
> We are hoping that its just the valves out of place as we thought it
> was the carbie but when we took it into get reconed, the guy told us
> that its commonly the valves going out of place and not sealing
> properly causing the bike not to run properly, And I was just wanting
> to know if anyone had any idea on how to adjust these?
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
>
>
Howdy, I have just recently picked up a GS250FW that runs, but not
all that well, it only starts with full choke and keeps dying, It
turns out that one of the cylanders only has 24 psi and a second, has
next to nothing,
We are hoping that its just the valves out of place as we thought it
was the carbie but when we took it into get reconed, the guy told us
that its commonly the valves going out of place and not sealing
properly causing the bike not to run properly, And I was just wanting
to know if anyone had any idea on how to adjust these?
Hi John, thanks for that mate, the picture is OK but I
wonder if the 1987 spec was different, mine is the
GF250S model. Like I said, I have a spark, good
compresion, fuel in the carbs, timing is bang on but
it just wont fire up!!!!! This is the only thing I can
think of what is wrong as when I got the bike it was
missing both coils. Any thing I may have missed or a
procedure I should follow would be great. The picture
may help if its a bit more clear, cheers, Craig.
--- John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote:
---------------------------------
Craig,
I no longer have my GF250 or the original workshop
manual, so I can't verify
the position.
Is the picture unclear in the downloaded workshop
manual? If so, I also have
a PDF version of the manual which may be of better
quality. Let me know what
page it's on and I'll check.
Regards,
John Avis
>From: Craig Williams <rcjwilliams@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: RE: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
>Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:47:42 +1200 (NZST)
>
>Hi John, I downloaded it fine but it took a couple of
>times. I have a question though, one of the file
>pictures shows the layout of the HT leads from the
>coils to plugs. It would appear after checking my
>timing which is all good that the leads are infact
not
>correct. Do you have a proper picture you could email
>me so I can copy on mine. I have a great spark & fuel
>but its a no go when I set the leads in the
>configuration of the drawing. Any help is much
needed.
>Thanks for your help, Craig.
>
> --- John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote:
>---------------------------------
>I just tried downloading the manual and had no
>problems. What happenned when
>you tried?
>
>-John Avis
>
> >From: "garrym_au" <garrym@...>
> >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> >To: suzuki250fours@...
> >Subject: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
> >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:04:13 -0000
> >
> >I tried d/loading the manual without success. does
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> >wiring diag. they can email me please.
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Craig,
I no longer have my GF250 or the original workshop manual, so I can't verify
the position.
Is the picture unclear in the downloaded workshop manual? If so, I also have
a PDF version of the manual which may be of better quality. Let me know what
page it's on and I'll check.
Regards,
John Avis
>From: Craig Williams <rcjwilliams@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: RE: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
>Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:47:42 +1200 (NZST)
>
>Hi John, I downloaded it fine but it took a couple of
>times. I have a question though, one of the file
>pictures shows the layout of the HT leads from the
>coils to plugs. It would appear after checking my
>timing which is all good that the leads are infact not
>correct. Do you have a proper picture you could email
>me so I can copy on mine. I have a great spark & fuel
>but its a no go when I set the leads in the
>configuration of the drawing. Any help is much needed.
>Thanks for your help, Craig.
>
> --- John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote:
>---------------------------------
>I just tried downloading the manual and had no
>problems. What happenned when
>you tried?
>
>-John Avis
>
> >From: "garrym_au" <garrym@...>
> >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> >To: suzuki250fours@...
> >Subject: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
> >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:04:13 -0000
> >
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> >wiring diag. they can email me please.
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Hi John, I downloaded it fine but it took a couple of
times. I have a question though, one of the file
pictures shows the layout of the HT leads from the
coils to plugs. It would appear after checking my
timing which is all good that the leads are infact not
correct. Do you have a proper picture you could email
me so I can copy on mine. I have a great spark & fuel
but its a no go when I set the leads in the
configuration of the drawing. Any help is much needed.
Thanks for your help, Craig.
--- John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote:
---------------------------------
I just tried downloading the manual and had no
problems. What happenned when
you tried?
-John Avis
>From: "garrym_au" <garrym@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
>Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:04:13 -0000
>
>I tried d/loading the manual without success. does
someone have a
>wiring diag. they can email me please.
>
>
>
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I just tried again - it said document unavailable, group exceeded d/load
limit - try later --- I'll try later
GarryM
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Avis" <john_avis@...>
To: <suzuki250fours@...>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
> I just tried downloading the manual and had no problems. What happenned
when
> you tried?
>
> -John Avis
>
> >From: "garrym_au" <garrym@...>
> >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> >To: suzuki250fours@...
> >Subject: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
> >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:04:13 -0000
> >
> >I tried d/loading the manual without success. does someone have a
> >wiring diag. they can email me please.
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Thanks for your reply - It came up 'forbidden' - I was using an FTP client,
maybe that was the trouble
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0403070899
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Avis" <john_avis@...>
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Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
> I just tried downloading the manual and had no problems. What happenned
when
> you tried?
>
> -John Avis
>
> >From: "garrym_au" <garrym@...>
> >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> >To: suzuki250fours@...
> >Subject: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
> >Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:04:13 -0000
> >
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I just tried downloading the manual and had no problems. What happenned when
you tried?
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>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] GS250FW - Wiring
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I have just bought a well used GS250FW. The wiring has been fiddled
and so the start button does not work - any suggestions would help. I
am also looking for some parts, Airbox and inlet tubes.
Hope someone can help
Hi Malcom, you do need the battery connected as it
needs power from this to the CDI or(signal generator)
in order to power the CDI up which send the coils into
action which then should give you the spark your
after. If you take a look ar the wiring diagram you
will see the orange & white wire which is the positive
or live wire, it goes from the ignitor up to both the
coils, then splits off to the engine stop swithes,
then goes to the lighting block where it eventually
gets power from the battery but it requires this
positive feed in order to run. Sounds complicated but
realy quite simple. It maybe an idea (not too sure if
it will work) but link your kill switches together and
see if you have a spark, as it maybe the switches that
are not connecting good. I had a similar problem here
on my project and it was all the switches has corroded
up after been stood for a year. Best regards, Craig.
--- malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
wrote:
---------------------------------
Thanks very much
Malcolm
--- Craig Williams <rcjwilliams@...> wrote:
---------------------------------
Hi Malcom, will take a look at mine for ya mate and
mail you as soon as poss, it sounds like you need a
power feed to the ignition side but like I say, ill
check for ya, cheers, Craig.
--- wallacemalcolm <wallacemalcolm@...>
wrote:
---------------------------------
Thanks Craig for your last reply.
Still no spark.
I have carefully followed the wiring diagram and
removed all
unwanted wires from my loom. I now have the plug from
the
engine (I assume is the signal generator) into the
igniter and the
other plug from the igniter to the coils. I do not
have any + cables
connected to the Battery except the starter motor
cable when I
turn over.
Q: When I turn over the engine buy connecting the
starter cable to
the +, Should the signal generator send out power
created by the
engine to the igniter. Or do I need a separate power
source to
the igniteror engine.
Note: I do not have a regulator rectifier connected.
The 3 yellow
cables from the engine (alternator I'm guessing) are
not
connected to a rectifier.
I hope I have made sense.
Thanks in advance
Malcolm
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Thanks very much
Malcolm
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Hi Malcom, will take a look at mine for ya mate and
mail you as soon as poss, it sounds like you need a
power feed to the ignition side but like I say, ill
check for ya, cheers, Craig.
--- wallacemalcolm <wallacemalcolm@...>
wrote:
---------------------------------
Thanks Craig for your last reply.
Still no spark.
I have carefully followed the wiring diagram and
removed all
unwanted wires from my loom. I now have the plug from
the
engine (I assume is the signal generator) into the
igniter and the
other plug from the igniter to the coils. I do not
have any + cables
connected to the Battery except the starter motor
cable when I
turn over.
Q: When I turn over the engine buy connecting the
starter cable to
the +, Should the signal generator send out power
created by the
engine to the igniter. Or do I need a separate power
source to
the igniteror engine.
Note: I do not have a regulator rectifier connected.
The 3 yellow
cables from the engine (alternator I'm guessing) are
not
connected to a rectifier.
I hope I have made sense.
Thanks in advance
Malcolm
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Hi Malcom, will take a look at mine for ya mate and
mail you as soon as poss, it sounds like you need a
power feed to the ignition side but like I say, ill
check for ya, cheers, Craig.
--- wallacemalcolm <wallacemalcolm@...>
wrote:
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Thanks Craig for your last reply.
Still no spark.
I have carefully followed the wiring diagram and
removed all
unwanted wires from my loom. I now have the plug from
the
engine (I assume is the signal generator) into the
igniter and the
other plug from the igniter to the coils. I do not
have any + cables
connected to the Battery except the starter motor
cable when I
turn over.
Q: When I turn over the engine buy connecting the
starter cable to
the +, Should the signal generator send out power
created by the
engine to the igniter. Or do I need a separate power
source to
the igniteror engine.
Note: I do not have a regulator rectifier connected.
The 3 yellow
cables from the engine (alternator I'm guessing) are
not
connected to a rectifier.
I hope I have made sense.
Thanks in advance
Malcolm
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Thanks Craig for your last reply.
Still no spark.
I have carefully followed the wiring diagram and removed all
unwanted wires from my loom. I now have the plug from the
engine (I assume is the signal generator) into the igniter and the
other plug from the igniter to the coils. I do not have any + cables
connected to the Battery except the starter motor cable when I
turn over.
Q: When I turn over the engine buy connecting the starter cable to
the +, Should the signal generator send out power created by the
engine to the igniter. Or do I need a separate power source to
the igniteror engine.
Note: I do not have a regulator rectifier connected. The 3 yellow
cables from the engine (alternator I'm guessing) are not
connected to a rectifier.
I hope I have made sense.
Thanks in advance
Malcolm
Hi mate, the CDI unit should have two block connectors
to it, the white wire should be the live and the black
wire underside of it is earth (just check with the
meter) the other block should have three wires, one is
for the + side of the coils which actually serves both
coils, the other two are the - sides of each coil.
Check the power to both sides of the coils when the
ignition is on, use a bulb & wire if no tester, the
bulb should light on contact with either side. If you
have this you shoul have a spark unless the leads have
a problem like not contacting with the cap correctly.
Give us a shout if you get stuck, I used the similar
engine unit and had to wire the whole thing off the
wiring diagram off the 250four site, it did the job
great, all the best, Craig.
--- wallacemalcolm <wallacemalcolm@...>
wrote:
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Hello,
I have purchased a GS250FWD for a go kart I am
currently
building.
I am having troubles with getting a spark.
I don't have the complete wiring loom, so I am unsure
if power is
getting to the ignition unit.
I purchased the wire loom, ignition unit and coils
from a wreaker
and they said thats all I need to get it going.
Can anyone help? Is there a place that would be able
to put me
in the right direction what to do and what I need.
Any help would be greatly appriciated.
PS I have just got the wire diagram.
Thaks very much.
I will see what I can do.
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Hello,
I have purchased a GS250FWD for a go kart I am currently
building.
I am having troubles with getting a spark.
I don't have the complete wiring loom, so I am unsure if power is
getting to the ignition unit.
I purchased the wire loom, ignition unit and coils from a wreaker
and they said thats all I need to get it going.
Can anyone help? Is there a place that would be able to put me
in the right direction what to do and what I need.
Any help would be greatly appriciated.
PS I have just got the wire diagram.
Thaks very much.
I will see what I can do.
Hi Alex, sorry mate, all I have ever downloaded is the
wiring diagram, would love to help but im really not
too sure whats wrong, all the best in sorting it out,
kindest regards, Craig.
--- Alex Collins <elloway@...> wrote:
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i was able to download all but part 4 of the manual..
something wrong with the link?
Alex
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just bought a 1986 gs250fw getting some work done on it but need
tappet clerences for inlet outlet manafolds please reply this is
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