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#158 From: "joleencarden" <joleencarden@...>
Date: Sat Aug 5, 2006 5:10 am
Subject:: Re: gf250s electics
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What kind of problems are you getting now?  Spark int he wrong place
at the wrong time?  Weak spark?  No spark?

I may have some other suggestions...

cheers
Scott

--- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> joleencarden <joleencarden@y...> wrote:        thanks heaps scott,
>
>   got the coils in the correct place now. still have ignition
problems which suggest ignitor fault or short circiut.
>
>   Will follow wiring
>
>   thanks again your help has canceled some unknowns!
>
>   Cheers
>   Luke
>
>
>
>   OK.  With the coils, running from left to right.  Coil 1 (left)
>   Orange/White trace, White.  This coil runs cyl 4, 1.  Coil 2
(right)
>   Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace.  This coil runs cyl 2, 3.
>
>   Igniter.  Now this is harder to describe.  If we take the clip
part of
>   the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows.
For the
>   small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace.  Second row is
>   Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from the
>   missing black).  Bigger plug top row is White, Blank,
Orange/White
>   trace.  Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White
trace.
>
>   From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive
feed to
>   both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
>   Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2.  The others
would be
>   grounds, feeds and crank signal.
>
>   hope this helps
>   Scott
>
>   --- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
>   <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
>   >
>   > I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now
to
>   > compare.  I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I
will
>   have
>   > a good old look for you.  If they are way wrong I'll take some
pics
>   >
>   > cheers
>   > Scott
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#157 From: Luke Ferguson <frogsdancing@...>
Date: Sat Aug 5, 2006 3:57 am
Subject:: Re: Re: gf250s electics
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joleencarden <joleencarden@...> wrote:        thanks heaps scott,

   got the coils in the correct place now. still have ignition problems which
suggest ignitor fault or short circiut.

   Will follow wiring

   thanks again your help has canceled some unknowns!

   Cheers
   Luke



   OK.  With the coils, running from left to right.  Coil 1 (left)
   Orange/White trace, White.  This coil runs cyl 4, 1.  Coil 2 (right)
   Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace.  This coil runs cyl 2, 3.

   Igniter.  Now this is harder to describe.  If we take the clip part of
   the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows.  For the
   small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace.  Second row is
   Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from the
   missing black).  Bigger plug top row is White, Blank, Orange/White
   trace.  Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White trace.

   From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive feed to
   both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
   Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2.  The others would be
   grounds, feeds and crank signal.

   hope this helps
   Scott

   --- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
   <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
   >
   > I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now to
   > compare.  I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I will
   have
   > a good old look for you.  If they are way wrong I'll take some pics
   >
   > cheers
   > Scott
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#156 From: "joleencarden" <joleencarden@...>
Date: Sat Aug 5, 2006 2:41 am
Subject:: Re: gf250s electics
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OK.  With the coils, running from left to right.  Coil 1 (left)
Orange/White trace, White.  This coil runs cyl 4, 1.  Coil 2 (right)
Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace.  This coil runs cyl 2, 3.

Igniter.  Now this is harder to describe.  If we take the clip part of
the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows.  For the
small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace.  Second row is
Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from the
missing black).  Bigger plug top row is White, Blank, Orange/White
trace.  Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White trace.

From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive feed to
both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2.  The others would be
grounds, feeds and crank signal.

hope this helps
Scott

--- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
<joleencarden@y...> wrote:
>
> I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now to
> compare.  I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I will
have
> a good old look for you.  If they are way wrong I'll take some pics
>
> cheers
> Scott
>

#155 From: "joleencarden" <joleencarden@...>
Date: Sat Aug 5, 2006 1:59 am
Subject:: Re: gf250s electics
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I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now to
compare.  I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I will have
a good old look for you.  If they are way wrong I'll take some pics

cheers
Scott

#154 From: "joleencarden" <joleencarden@...>
Date: Sat Aug 5, 2006 1:48 am
Subject:: Re: Just Wondering
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I have a GS250FW too.  I have had the same probs with hard starting.
It all comes down to the idle jets (4 of them).  As these engines are
quite small but have fairly big carbs the jets especially on idle have
to be tiny.  Any gunk will block them in a matter of days.  Make sure
once they are cleaned to have a filter installed.  Also flush out your
tank. I can almost guarantee that there is rust in there.

As for no reving out all the way.  The air box is a good suggestion
but it could also be the slides not moving freely.  On my GS some kids
came around and toppled my bike while playing on it.  This was enough
to bend the brass alignment rod that the slides move up on (if you
remove the top of the cab it has a brass protrusion).  Just a small
bend of this will restrict the slide and no matter what throttle
application you give if the slide can't move you wont rev out.

cheers
Scott

#153 From: "Mark" <fiandme@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 8:25 pm
Subject:: GS250FW side cover pics
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Hey Jobert, I have just posted some pics of the side cover you were
after. They are not very clear but I hope it helps. Regards, Mark.

#152 From: florentino jobert <jobertflorentino@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 4:58 am
Subject:: picture for the GS250FW logo
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hey guys, i have done a paint job for my bike.
   could somebody please take a close up picture of the GS250FW design logo
(located at the bottom cover for the reservoir of the engine cololant) so that i
could scan it and take it to the shop so my friend could make me a designed
sticker for my bike..

   thanks.

   jobert


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#151 From: Luke Ferguson <frogsdancing@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2006 11:44 pm
Subject:: Re: Re: Engine Rebuild Gaskets and rings
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Hey mark,

   the local suzuki dealer (newcastle) had all but the cylinder gasket which took
a week or so from japan. Had tried sourcing from japan and after market but had
no luck. The rings are really expensive, around $100 each piston while the head
gasket wasn't too bad from memory. The kit costing just under $500. Other things
to consider is the wear on the cylinders (do you need to upsize pistons) and the
condition of the valves ie do they need to be replaced. I didn't touch the
bottom end.... famous last words.

   Good luck
   Luke



Mark <fiandme@...> wrote:
   Hey frogs, just wondering if you were able to get your gasket set? did
you get new rings and bearing too! If you were able to source them,
where did you get them from, how much and do you know if they are the
same as a GS250FW. I am thinking about a full rebuild for my bike.
Thanks, Mark
>








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#150 From: "Mark" <fiandme@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2006 7:55 pm
Subject:: Re: Engine Rebuild Gaskets and rings
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Hey frogs, just wondering if you were able to get your gasket set? did
you get new rings and bearing too! If you were able to source them,
where did you get them from, how much and do you know if they are the
same as a GS250FW. I am thinking about a full rebuild for my bike.
Thanks, Mark
>

#149 From: Luke Ferguson <frogsdancing@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2006 9:26 am
Subject:: RE: gf250s electics
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G'day all,
   I've posted some photos of the rebuild and of my electricals. You can find the
in the photo section of use this link
   http://au.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/suzuki250fours/photos/browse/c6ca

   Kind regards,

   LUke

John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote:        Hi Luke,

   I just checked the settings of the photo section of the Yahoo group page and
   it seems that members weren't allowed to upload photos. I have changed the
   setting so you should be able to upload now.

   I dont't have my GF250 anymore so I can't help you with a photo of the
   wiring. However, I have been told by a Suzuki dealer (who borrowed my old
   bike once to help him fix another customer's) that the ignitor is a common
   problem.

   Incidently I am in the market for a cheap bike and wouldn't mind another
   GF250. If anyone has a working one for sale in NSW please let me know.

   Thanks.

   John Avis


   >From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@...>
   >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
   >To: suzuki250fours@...
   >Subject: [suzuki250fours] gf250s electics
   >Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:21:06 -0000
   >
   >G'day all,
   >
   >I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
   >people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
   >questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
   >me. I hope that I can return the favour.
   >
   >I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
   >since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
   >set and I have compression.
   >I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
   >am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
   >either....
   >
   >    1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
   >running  because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
   >"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
   >friend said, "its an unknown"
   >
   >2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
   >this as much as possible.
   >
   >3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
   >the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
   >a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
   >coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
   >does not show which wires plug in where.
   >I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
   >place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
   >the rebuild which I would like to post.)
   >
   >4. Something else that I haven't thought about.
   >
   >
   >thanks heaps,
   >
   >luke
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >





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#148 From: Luke Ferguson <frogsdancing@...>
Date: Thu Aug 3, 2006 8:56 am
Subject:: RE: gf250s electics
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Cheers John,
   I'll post my photos ASAP
   If anyone could cross reference their bike with my photos i would be grateful
   Or if anyone is wrecking a bike with ignitor

   Muchly appreciated.

   Luke


John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote:        Hi Luke,

   I just checked the settings of the photo section of the Yahoo group page and
   it seems that members weren't allowed to upload photos. I have changed the
   setting so you should be able to upload now.

   I dont't have my GF250 anymore so I can't help you with a photo of the
   wiring. However, I have been told by a Suzuki dealer (who borrowed my old
   bike once to help him fix another customer's) that the ignitor is a common
   problem.

   Incidently I am in the market for a cheap bike and wouldn't mind another
   GF250. If anyone has a working one for sale in NSW please let me know.

   Thanks.

   John Avis


   >From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@...>
   >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
   >To: suzuki250fours@...
   >Subject: [suzuki250fours] gf250s electics
   >Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:21:06 -0000
   >
   >G'day all,
   >
   >I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
   >people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
   >questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
   >me. I hope that I can return the favour.
   >
   >I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
   >since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
   >set and I have compression.
   >I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
   >am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
   >either....
   >
   >    1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
   >running  because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
   >"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
   >friend said, "its an unknown"
   >
   >2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
   >this as much as possible.
   >
   >3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
   >the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
   >a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
   >coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
   >does not show which wires plug in where.
   >I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
   >place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
   >the rebuild which I would like to post.)
   >
   >4. Something else that I haven't thought about.
   >
   >
   >thanks heaps,
   >
   >luke
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >





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#147 From: "John Avis" <john_avis@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:37 am
Subject:: RE: gf250s electics
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Hi Luke,

I just checked the settings of the photo section of the Yahoo group page and
it seems that members weren't allowed to upload photos. I have changed the
setting so you should be able to upload now.

I dont't have my GF250 anymore so I can't help you with a photo of the
wiring. However, I have been told by a Suzuki dealer (who borrowed my old
bike once to help him fix another customer's) that the ignitor is a common
problem.

Incidently I am in the market for a cheap bike and wouldn't mind another
GF250. If anyone has a working one for sale in NSW please let me know.

Thanks.

John Avis


>From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] gf250s electics
>Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:21:06 -0000
>
>G'day all,
>
>I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
>people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
>questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
>me. I hope that I can return the favour.
>
>I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
>since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
>set and I have compression.
>I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
>am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
>either....
>
>    1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
>running  because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
>"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
>friend said, "its an unknown"
>
>2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
>this as much as possible.
>
>3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
>the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
>a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
>coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
>does not show which wires plug in where.
>I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
>place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
>the rebuild which I would like to post.)
>
>4. Something else that I haven't thought about.
>
>
>thanks heaps,
>
>luke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

#146 From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 11:21 am
Subject:: gf250s electics
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G'day all,

I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
me. I hope that I can return the favour.

I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
set and I have compression.
I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
either....

    1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
running  because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
friend said, "its an unknown"

2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
this as much as possible.

3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
does not show which wires plug in where.
I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
the rebuild which I would like to post.)

4. Something else that I haven't thought about.


thanks heaps,

luke

#145 From: "Fi and Me" <fiandme@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 6:19 am
Subject:: Re: Just Wondering
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Hey Mal,
Just got off the phone with a bike mechanic and told him the symptoms of my bike
and when I told him that I didn't have the air cleaner and box on it he
suggested that that could be the problem with it not revving. He said that these
engines need to have that restriction in place to get the full revs or it runs
way too lean. Thought that might be the problem with yours too!
Mark Cowling
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   From: Fi and Me
   To: suzuki250fours@...
   Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:18 PM
   Subject: Re: [suzuki250fours] Just Wondering



     From: malcolm wallace
     To: suzuki250fours@...
     Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:20 PM
     Subject: Re: [suzuki250fours] Just Wondering


     Hi Mark
       I may not be the best person to answer this as i can still not make mine
go. however the times that it did go it was very limited with the revs, it was
hard to start and only reved to 5500. then after getting advise to check the
valvue clearances, I got those set and when it was next started it reved great
all they way, The only reason the valvue clearances were out was because i
changed the head gasket and mixed 2 up. The next time i could only run it by
spraying areo start into the carbiles and could not even make it rev, so the
nice running motor was short lived.
       mal




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#144 From: "Fi and Me" <fiandme@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 3:18 am
Subject:: Re: Just Wondering
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Thanks Mal, But since I cleaned the carbies it starts first go now and I think
the problem may be the mixture screws. I have been informed that the valve
clearance is correct but I'm not sure on how to double check this myself.
Mark Cowling
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   From: malcolm wallace
   To: suzuki250fours@...
   Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:20 PM
   Subject: Re: [suzuki250fours] Just Wondering


   Hi Mark
     I may not be the best person to answer this as i can still not make mine go.
however the times that it did go it was very limited with the revs, it was hard
to start and only reved to 5500. then after getting advise to check the valvue
clearances, I got those set and when it was next started it reved great all they
way, The only reason the valvue clearances were out was because i changed the
head gasket and mixed 2 up. The next time i could only run it by spraying areo
start into the carbiles and could not even make it rev, so the nice running
motor was short lived.
     mal

   cowlingmark <fiandme@...> wrote:
     Hi Guys, Just wondering if these pages are still current as the last
   post was quite awhile ago. I have just bought a GS250FW that wasn't
   running and after looking at these pages and the info given I was able
   to get it started (thanks) but since then I have encounted a few more
   probs,I.E it won't rev out properly and is still hard to start, but
   Idles well. To get it going I had to strip the carbies down and clean
   them out, 1 was completely blocked with junk. All the jets are now
   clean and the diaphrams are in good condition. I don't know much about
   the carbies so when I cleaned them I put everything back as it was. Are
   the mixture screws the little one on the top front of each inlet port?
   What should they be set at? The manual that came with the bike
   (download copy) stated they should be out 1+1/4 turns. Is this correct
   or does it change as the mileage increases? This bike has done over
   70,000 km. There are no undue noises coming from the engine while its
   running and the previous owner said that the valve clearences had been
   checked and adjusted already. The spark is strong and the compression
   seems good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark.






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#143 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 2:20 am
Subject:: Re: Just Wondering
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Hi Mark
   I may not be the best person to answer this as i can still not make mine go.
however the times that it did go it was very limited with the revs, it was hard
to start and only reved to 5500. then after getting advise to check the valvue
clearances, I got those set and when it was next started it reved great all they
way, The only reason the valvue clearances were out was because i changed the
head gasket and mixed 2 up. The next time i could only run it by spraying areo
start into the carbiles and could not even make it rev, so the nice running
motor was short lived.
   mal

cowlingmark <fiandme@...> wrote:
   Hi Guys, Just wondering if these pages are still current as the last
post was quite awhile ago. I have just bought a GS250FW that wasn't
running and after looking at these pages and the info given I was able
to get it started (thanks) but since then I have encounted a few more
probs,I.E it won't rev out properly and is still hard to start, but
Idles well. To get it going I had to strip the carbies down and clean
them out, 1 was completely blocked with junk. All the jets are now
clean and the diaphrams are in good condition. I don't know much about
the carbies so when I cleaned them I put everything back as it was. Are
the mixture screws the little one on the top front of each inlet port?
What should they be set at? The manual that came with the bike
(download copy) stated they should be out 1+1/4 turns. Is this correct
or does it change as the mileage increases? This bike has done over
70,000 km. There are no undue noises coming from the engine while its
running and the previous owner said that the valve clearences had been
checked and adjusted already. The spark is strong and the compression
seems good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark.






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#142 From: "cowlingmark" <fiandme@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 11:12 pm
Subject:: Just Wondering
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Hi Guys, Just wondering if these pages are still current as the last
post was quite awhile ago. I have just bought a GS250FW that wasn't
running and after looking at these pages and the info given I was able
to get it started (thanks) but since then I have encounted a few more
probs,I.E it won't rev out properly and is still hard to start, but
Idles well. To get it going I had to strip the carbies down and clean
them out, 1 was completely blocked with junk. All the jets are now
clean and the diaphrams are in good condition. I don't know much about
the carbies so when I cleaned them I put everything back as it was. Are
the mixture screws the little one on the top front of each inlet port?
What should they be set at? The manual that came with the bike
(download copy) stated they should be out 1+1/4 turns. Is this correct
or does it change as the mileage increases? This bike has done over
70,000 km. There are no undue noises coming from the engine while its
running and the previous owner said that the valve clearences had been
checked and adjusted already. The spark is strong and the compression
seems good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark.

#141 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:44 am
Subject:: 4 sale gs250
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I am selling my GS250FWD
   84 mod not running

   $400

   has been sitting in a garage since 98 and now will not start.
   i have removed carbies and and cleaned them and hoped this will make it go,
but i had no luck. My engine skills are very limited.


   pictures are attached. if you are interested
   i can be contacted on 0407 869 785
   fell free to come and check it out.

   i am located in Mount Waverley, Melb eastern suburbs.

   cheers
   Malcolm

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#140 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:53 am
Subject:: GS250fwd in gokart. Please Please fix it or buy it.
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Please please make it go, or buy it.

   Ok I have been building a off road go kart for years now and it just doest
look like it is going to go. my let down is i dont know enough about bike motors
and have hade a bad run with mechanics.

   I have a Gs250fwd i got from the wreckers in my go kart i built. long story
short i cant make it go. Why i dont know, first the valuve clearances, paid got
those fixed then a second cdi unit and still cant start it, on the one occation
i can start it, I got it to run great, It has good spark and compression but
damm hard to start often just doesnt. $$ is not so much the prob but the amount
of time i have spent on it is killing me. Last year also purchased another
GS250f 83 model complet bike aswell. It had been in a garage for a while and
does not run either, has spark compression and 2x jammed airjets on the carbies
like my other set. I thought i would get it for parts or spares since these
bikes are kind of rare. I have had a quick go at getting the bike going, not
much luck there either but didnt try much. I really would prefer to get the one
in the go kart going first since i have actully had it running.

   Well if anyone would like to have a go at getting it going please please!! do.
I'll pay you.

   otherwise if anyone wants to buy my bike and extra motor and parts please do.

   thanks

   Malcolm




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#139 From: florentino jobert <jobertflorentino@...>
Date: Mon Jul 3, 2006 1:00 pm
Subject:: (No subject)
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guys,

   to whom who could ever read this message, i am having a difficult time in
fixing my bike. does anybody have a spare set of overhauling gasket for a
GS250FW bike.
   let me know your address.

   please notify me so i could make up my mind on how i could purchase the item.

   i need it a.s.a.p.


   tnx.

   -jobert florentino


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#138 From: "Brendan Konings" <konings_brendan@...>
Date: Sat Jul 1, 2006 5:23 am
Subject:: FW: guys need your help
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Jobert,

First thing I would do is remove the spark plugs and check those for
exccesive wear or junk. While the plugs are out, do a dry compression test
and record your findings. Then do a wet compression check. If any of the
values increase SIGNIFIGANTLY then it would indicate that you likely have
damaged ring(s) in that cylinder.

If doing the wet test does not increase the compression drastically, then
the compression leak is either through your head gasket or your valves.  The
next step would be to check the valve clearances. Refer to the manual for
that, it's a bit of a lengthy process.

If the compression is fine across the board, then the only thing I can think
of is to check your timing.


>From: "jobertflorentino" <jobertflorentino@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] guys need your help
>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:12:23 -0000
>
>i own a gs250fw bike. but i cant make a rev on upto 12000 rpm.. .. what
>could be wrong in my bike? help me please..
>
>tnx.
>
>-Jobert
>
>
>

#137 From: "jobertflorentino" <jobertflorentino@...>
Date: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:12 am
Subject:: guys need your help
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i own a gs250fw bike. but i cant make a rev on upto 12000 rpm.. .. what
could be wrong in my bike? help me please..

tnx.

-Jobert

#136 From: "mark_backshall" <mark_backshall@...>
Date: Sun May 14, 2006 10:28 pm
Subject:: Re: GF250
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--- In suzuki250fours@..., "slayersdeathkiller"
<slayersdeathkiller@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi there friends, I would like to know if anybody has any
information
> about the cluch setup in the GF250, any info would be appreciated,
> thanks
>What is the problem with the clutch.
Bit hard to answer without knowing  the fault--- but they are not that
hard
regards
Mark

#135 From: "mccurds1" <stephen.mccurdy@...>
Date: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:14 pm
Subject:: Early GF 250
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Does anybody out there in GB have a petrol tank for an early GF 250.
(The one without the front fairing) Stephen

#134 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:46 pm
Subject:: carbie jets??????????????stuckkkkkk
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Hi

   iu have 2 x 83 model GS250f's
   on both sets of carbies 2 jet screws are stuck. I cannot adjust at all. Is
there anyway I can free these without killing the carbies. Otherwise does anyone
have a set of carbies.

   thanks

   Mal

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#133 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:21 pm
Subject:: Re: Re: GS250FW PARTS!!!
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Hi
   Do you happen to have the carbies for the GS250FW

   thanks

   Mal

drovershill <drovershill@...> wrote:
   --- In suzuki250fours@..., "casper05james"
<casper.james@g...> wrote:
>
> May have access to GS250FW parts please email me if you are
interested!
>
> Location: Tamworth NSW
>
> Parts: Near complete bike.

Hi

Do you still have access to the parts?  I have just bought a 1984
model and need some bits.

Clyde Graham
WA
>






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#132 From: "slayersdeathkiller" <slayersdeathkiller@...>
Date: Mon Apr 3, 2006 10:46 am
Subject:: GF250
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Hi there friends, I would like to know if anybody has any information
about the cluch setup in the GF250, any info would be appreciated,
thanks

#131 From: "is13uki" <is13uki@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 10:11 am
Subject:: Re: I bought the GF250 yesterday!!!!!!!
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--- In suzuki250fours@..., "yuraom" <yuraom@y...> wrote:
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> I am in shock till yesterday morning!!!!!
> Yesterday-I bought Suzuki GF 250!!!!!My first japan bike!!!
> Take new member!!!!!
>
Hy! Congratulations!! I wish you good luck and long many trips!

#130 From: "is13uki" <is13uki@...>
Date: Sat Apr 1, 2006 9:48 am
Subject:: Suzuki GSF250 Bandit Manual
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Hy everybody!
I'm new here am I hope that I'll find a Suzuki GSF250 Bandit Manual.
The   "little beast" is 1990 production and now I've some problem.
Tkank you very much!

#129 From: "garrym_au" <garrym@...>
Date: Thu Mar 2, 2006 7:06 am
Subject:: Sell 250 four
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I have a 250 four I am putting on ebay in the next few days. It all
works and is complete --- EXCEPT, it won't idle below about 2500rpm
and won't start without assistance from aerostart.
Once running rides OK, runs OK --- needs minor work.
Will place pics on ebay --- suitable for spares or restore --- I gave
up trying to make it run properly  ...

GarryM


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