Please please make it go, or buy it.
Ok I have been building a off road go kart for years now and it just doest
look like it is going to go. my let down is i dont know enough about bike motors
and have hade a bad run with mechanics.
I have a Gs250fwd i got from the wreckers in my go kart i built. long story
short i cant make it go. Why i dont know, first the valuve clearances, paid got
those fixed then a second cdi unit and still cant start it, on the one occation
i can start it, I got it to run great, It has good spark and compression but
damm hard to start often just doesnt. $$ is not so much the prob but the amount
of time i have spent on it is killing me. Last year also purchased another
GS250f 83 model complet bike aswell. It had been in a garage for a while and
does not run either, has spark compression and 2x jammed airjets on the carbies
like my other set. I thought i would get it for parts or spares since these
bikes are kind of rare. I have had a quick go at getting the bike going, not
much luck there either but didnt try much. I really would prefer to get the one
in the go kart going first since i have actully had it running.
Well if anyone would like to have a go at getting it going please please!! do.
I'll pay you.
otherwise if anyone wants to buy my bike and extra motor and parts please do.
thanks
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guys,
to whom who could ever read this message, i am having a difficult time in
fixing my bike. does anybody have a spare set of overhauling gasket for a
GS250FW bike.
let me know your address.
please notify me so i could make up my mind on how i could purchase the item.
i need it a.s.a.p.
tnx.
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Jobert,
First thing I would do is remove the spark plugs and check those for
exccesive wear or junk. While the plugs are out, do a dry compression test
and record your findings. Then do a wet compression check. If any of the
values increase SIGNIFIGANTLY then it would indicate that you likely have
damaged ring(s) in that cylinder.
If doing the wet test does not increase the compression drastically, then
the compression leak is either through your head gasket or your valves. The
next step would be to check the valve clearances. Refer to the manual for
that, it's a bit of a lengthy process.
If the compression is fine across the board, then the only thing I can think
of is to check your timing.
>From: "jobertflorentino" <jobertflorentino@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] guys need your help
>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:12:23 -0000
>
>i own a gs250fw bike. but i cant make a rev on upto 12000 rpm.. .. what
>could be wrong in my bike? help me please..
>
>tnx.
>
>-Jobert
>
>
>
--- In suzuki250fours@..., "slayersdeathkiller"
<slayersdeathkiller@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi there friends, I would like to know if anybody has any
information
> about the cluch setup in the GF250, any info would be appreciated,
> thanks
>What is the problem with the clutch.
Bit hard to answer without knowing the fault--- but they are not that
hard
regards
Mark
Hi
iu have 2 x 83 model GS250f's
on both sets of carbies 2 jet screws are stuck. I cannot adjust at all. Is
there anyway I can free these without killing the carbies. Otherwise does anyone
have a set of carbies.
thanks
Mal
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Hi
Do you happen to have the carbies for the GS250FW
thanks
Mal
drovershill <drovershill@...> wrote:
--- In suzuki250fours@..., "casper05james"
<casper.james@g...> wrote:
>
> May have access to GS250FW parts please email me if you are
interested!
>
> Location: Tamworth NSW
>
> Parts: Near complete bike.
Hi
Do you still have access to the parts? I have just bought a 1984
model and need some bits.
Clyde Graham
WA
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> I am in shock till yesterday morning!!!!!
> Yesterday-I bought Suzuki GF 250!!!!!My first japan bike!!!
> Take new member!!!!!
>
Hy! Congratulations!! I wish you good luck and long many trips!
Hy everybody!
I'm new here am I hope that I'll find a Suzuki GSF250 Bandit Manual.
The "little beast" is 1990 production and now I've some problem.
Tkank you very much!
I have a 250 four I am putting on ebay in the next few days. It all
works and is complete --- EXCEPT, it won't idle below about 2500rpm
and won't start without assistance from aerostart.
Once running rides OK, runs OK --- needs minor work.
Will place pics on ebay --- suitable for spares or restore --- I gave
up trying to make it run properly ...
GarryM
Hi Clyde,
The pdf file for the GS250fw is 26mb so i can't email it through hotmail and
i don't have anywhere to store it online. I'm not sure its much better than
the jpg version already online.
-John Avis
From: "drovershill" <drovershill@...>
To: "John Avis" <john_avis@...>
Subject: GS250FW manual
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 01:59:06 -0000
Hi John
You mentioned that you have a PDF version of the manual for this bike;
may I have a copy, please? I have just bought a 1984 model.
Clyde Graham
--- In suzuki250fours@..., "casper05james"
<casper.james@g...> wrote:
>
> May have access to GS250FW parts please email me if you are
interested!
>
> Location: Tamworth NSW
>
> Parts: Near complete bike.
Hi
Do you still have access to the parts? I have just bought a 1984
model and need some bits.
Clyde Graham
WA
>
The engine is rebuild is slowly taking place. Word of advice is to
shop around. I had a quote for rings @ $92per cylinder! A bit steep I
thought, so after some research and many emails I've found a set for
$147 colemans suzuki in NZ. They seem to be more stocked up and
knowlegdeable on the gf's then I've come across here in Aus.. Would
like to deal direct with Japan but finding the english link is difficult.
--- In suzuki250fours@..., "John Avis" <john_avis@h...>
wrote:
>
> A Suzuki motorcycle dealer should be able to order you a set, might
take a
> while if they have to get it from Japan though.
>
> -John Avis
>
>
> >From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@y...>
> >Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
> >To: suzuki250fours@...
> >Subject: [suzuki250fours] Engine Rebuild Gaskets and rings
> >Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:09:12 -0000
> >
> >G'day!
> >Need to rebuild my gf250 and was wondering if anyone could point me in
> >the direction of somewhere that I can buy the gaskets sets...
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>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] Engine Rebuild Gaskets and rings
>Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:09:12 -0000
>
>G'day!
>Need to rebuild my gf250 and was wondering if anyone could point me in
>the direction of somewhere that I can buy the gaskets sets...
>
>Thks
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I have a PDF version of the manual but its not much clearer. Its 26mb
though. Anyone have the original that can scan in a better copy?
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>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] Need wiring diagram!
>Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 04:07:50 -0000
>
>Please, somebody send me the wiring diagram of the GSX 250 across OR
>Gs250FW
>
>
>Thanks a lot!
>
>PS: The wiring diagram in the files secction is unreadable.
>
>PS2: sory about my english, im from Argentina.
>
>cya! tkns!
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Please, somebody send me the wiring diagram of the GSX 250 across OR
Gs250FW
Thanks a lot!
PS: The wiring diagram in the files secction is unreadable.
PS2: sory about my english, im from Argentina.
cya! tkns!
Please, somebody send me the wiring diagram of the GSX 250 across OR
Gs250FW
Thanks a lot!
PS: The wiring diagram in the files secction is unreadable.
PS2: sory about my english, im from Argentina.
cya! tkns!
after having my bike sit in the garage for more than 3 years I've
decided to make a psecial out of it. So keep a look out on ebay soon
for parts such as wheels, forks, swing arm, shock, plastics tank etc.
Most parts need some work beacuase I t-boned a tray ute and I haven't
seen the bike and bits since 2001, but the person who's house it is in
will hopefully give some more details.
99% complete. 20,000 original kilometers garaged for last ten years.
Tamworth NSW Australia, Ask for Rob 67623853
Make an offer, looking for a bigger bike will swap.
Guys, can anyone tell me the standard gearing for the GF 250.
As bought mine had engine 13, rear wheel 45.
My dealer told me it should be 14 / 48 , which is a bit higher.
Does anyone know please?
thanks
Mark
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Message Received: Sep 28 2005, 12:12 AM
From: "Carl Johnston"
To: suzuki250fours@...
Cc:
Subject: RE: [suzuki250fours] 82 GS250FWD
Hey Chris,
Where are you located? I'd be interested in a few things :)
Cheers,
Carl
On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 19:55 +0200, CHRIS STEWART wrote:
> im breaking down an 82 gs250fw if anyones interested in parts
>
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> To: suzuki250fours@...
> Cc:
> Subject: [suzuki250fours] 82 GS250FWD
>
> Hey found a GS 250 garaged for the last 13 years.
> Owner says it was good when it went in but it won't start now!
>
> Any advise? Asking $300
>
> Missing left side muffler???
>
> last registered in 1992 but appears immaculate.
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Hi Carl
ah the Choke, yeah I've used plenty of that. I'll chance the leads and check the
coils. I'll try and do that next week.
I let you know how I go.
Thanks again.
Mal
Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
Hey Malcolm,
That's a good plug for Pete - If I get stuck on something I'll give him
a call :)
In the service manual it states resistances for the coil primary and
secondary circuits (page 5-16 at the back) - It might pay to check them
all with a meter. Changing the leads over would be quick too (if
they're stuffed).
The easy out sounds like a winner - if you can get one that small..
The enrichment system is the choke. It's two little cable driven,
spring loaded plungers that screw into the back of both the
carburettors; you'd know if you didn't hook it up.
Cheers,
Carl
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 14:47 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> Thanks Carl
>
> Pete was good he did the valve clearances very quikly. The other carbies on
the other bike have 2 jammed up air jet screws. So no luke there.
>
> Spark seems good, but I will try the other coils and leads off the other bike.
> I was thinking easy out will be the only option it is fused stuck.
> The Enrichment system, now that sounds good. Where is that located?
>
> When I finally did get it going and warmed up it sounded great. It was slow to
rev up to around 5 but then once warm it was smooth reving from 5-11k
>
> It is starting to become promising.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Mal
>
>
>
> Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
> Hey Malcolm,
>
> Glad to hear that it's almost working :)
>
> There'd be a few things I'd look at:
> - Enrichment system
> - Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
> - Air jet (as you mentioned)
>
> If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
> connect it :)
>
> I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
> bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
> lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).
>
> I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
> others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
> others. If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
> around - or you could try one from your other bike..
>
> Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
> stock?
>
> As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic. The carburettor's
> pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it. You might
> find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
> to somebody else to do :P
>
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
> On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> > Hey Guys
> >
> >
> >
> > I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got the valuve clearances
set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
> >
> >
> >
> > One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll
get it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you
suggest I do.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Mal
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Hey Malcolm,
That's a good plug for Pete - If I get stuck on something I'll give him
a call :)
In the service manual it states resistances for the coil primary and
secondary circuits (page 5-16 at the back) - It might pay to check them
all with a meter. Changing the leads over would be quick too (if
they're stuffed).
The easy out sounds like a winner - if you can get one that small..
The enrichment system is the choke. It's two little cable driven,
spring loaded plungers that screw into the back of both the
carburettors; you'd know if you didn't hook it up.
Cheers,
Carl
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 14:47 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> Thanks Carl
>
> Pete was good he did the valve clearances very quikly. The other carbies on
the other bike have 2 jammed up air jet screws. So no luke there.
>
> Spark seems good, but I will try the other coils and leads off the other bike.
> I was thinking easy out will be the only option it is fused stuck.
> The Enrichment system, now that sounds good. Where is that located?
>
> When I finally did get it going and warmed up it sounded great. It was slow to
rev up to around 5 but then once warm it was smooth reving from 5-11k
>
> It is starting to become promising.
>
> Thanks for all your help.
>
> Mal
>
>
>
> Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
> Hey Malcolm,
>
> Glad to hear that it's almost working :)
>
> There'd be a few things I'd look at:
> - Enrichment system
> - Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
> - Air jet (as you mentioned)
>
> If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
> connect it :)
>
> I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
> bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
> lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).
>
> I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
> others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
> others. If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
> around - or you could try one from your other bike..
>
> Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
> stock?
>
> As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic. The carburettor's
> pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it. You might
> find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
> to somebody else to do :P
>
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
> On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> > Hey Guys
> >
> >
> >
> > I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got the valuve clearances
set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
> >
> >
> >
> > One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll
get it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you
suggest I do.
> >
> >
> >
> > When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Mal
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Thanks Carl
Pete was good he did the valve clearances very quikly. The other carbies on the
other bike have 2 jammed up air jet screws. So no luke there.
Spark seems good, but I will try the other coils and leads off the other bike.
I was thinking easy out will be the only option it is fused stuck.
The Enrichment system, now that sounds good. Where is that located?
When I finally did get it going and warmed up it sounded great. It was slow to
rev up to around 5 but then once warm it was smooth reving from 5-11k
It is starting to become promising.
Thanks for all your help.
Mal
Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
Hey Malcolm,
Glad to hear that it's almost working :)
There'd be a few things I'd look at:
- Enrichment system
- Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
- Air jet (as you mentioned)
If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
connect it :)
I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).
I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
others. If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
around - or you could try one from your other bike..
Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
stock?
As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic. The carburettor's
pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it. You might
find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
to somebody else to do :P
Good Luck!
Carl
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
> Hey Guys
>
>
>
> I have as GS250 FWD in a go kart. I have finally got the valuve clearances
set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
>
>
>
> One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll get
it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you suggest I
do.
>
>
>
> When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Mal
>
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Hey Malcolm,
Glad to hear that it's almost working :)
There'd be a few things I'd look at:
- Enrichment system
- Ignition system (for that plug/coil)
- Air jet (as you mentioned)
If you don't have the enrichment system connected, then I suggest you
connect it :)
I'd also see if you have a good spark on that plug, maybe the plug's
bad, maybe the lead is bad (I think you can change them with standard
lead wire), maybe the coil is bad (try swapping the coils).
I'd also see how far out the air jet for the cylinder is compared to the
others - get some calipers in the screw hole and compare it to the
others. If you need another jet, I might have a good one floating
around - or you could try one from your other bike..
Did the mechanic clean out the carburettor and re-set all the jets to
stock?
As for getting the screw out - I'd ask a mechanic. The carburettor's
pretty soft metal and you don't want to risk damaging it. You might
find an "Easy-out" small enough to do it, but that's something I'd give
to somebody else to do :P
Good Luck!
Carl
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 09:45 +1000, malcolm wallace wrote:
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set, thanks Carl now it revs. But it is a total pain in the but to start.
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> One of the air jet screws on the carbie is jammed and there is no way I'll get
it out. Has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what do you suggest I
do.
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> When I try to start it it can take me 20 mins or until a flat battery to
finally get it to rev and run without the starter moter. Up untill it actully
revs the clyinder with the jamed carbie air screw has not even tried to go, the
exhaust remains stone cold all the others begin to warm up. When It finnaly gets
going all clyinders run fine. and above 4000 rpm appears to rev smooth.
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