Just found neat old GS250FW sitting in the corner of a warehouse out
of site, but looking pretty good for an olde. Needed a bike project.
Took a couple of days cleaning the carbs, put in a battery, and she
fired up and took off-runs really sweet for a little guy. Good
brakes, gear box and not whacked that I can feel. looking for front
fork seals and a rear shock. Not really familar with this model, or
Susies so don't know what is inter-changeable with other earlier
models. No one down here knows much either. She's small, quick, and
perfect for traffic in Accra, Ghana where I'm at for awhile. Any
suggestions much appreciated.
They are compressed. You need something like www.pkzip.com to decompress
them. Then you will have each page in jpg format.
>From: pedcogorden <no_reply@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] manual
>Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:25:11 -0000
>
>hi i tryed downloading the manual from the file page but i cant open
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--- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson Thanx Luke
for keeping me informed i hope that you have no more igniter probs
and your bike stays reliable. i will get my mate to order a new
igniter as it's his bike and seeing as he don't have a access to a
computer i searched around for him and found this group and thanx to
you he can now sort the bike.
Thanx again Luke.
Dave...<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
> Yes and Yes,
>
> Shipping took a little while
> but the unit fits straight on Same plugs and same colour wires!
>
> Bike fired and ran first time....
> go for it...
>
> Luke
>
> mdm820si <mdm820si@y...> wrote:
> Hi Luke did you recieve your new igniter from New Zealand and
does
> it do the job ?
> Dave... --- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
> <frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello there,
> >
> > My ignitor is "knackered" as well. I have just ordered an
> aftermarket one from a guy in New Zealand. Waiting for arrivial,
> you can wait to see if it works or check his website out....
> >
> > www.erd.co.nz
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Luke
> >
> >
> >
> > mdm820si <mdm820si@y...> wrote: Hello Can any of you
guys
> help with a Suzuki GF250 Igniter as i need
> > a replacement unit as the one i have is knackered, the code
is
> GF250
> > 32900 - 34A00 TR Igniter BB1217 - KOKUSAN - DENKO
1801535.GF250
> GJ7-
> > C if you have a spare 1 plz e mail me - mdm820si@y... with
how
> > much you want for it along with p&p and i will get back to you.
> > Thanks
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Yes and Yes,
Shipping took a little while
but the unit fits straight on Same plugs and same colour wires!
Bike fired and ran first time....
go for it...
Luke
mdm820si <mdm820si@...> wrote:
Hi Luke did you recieve your new igniter from New Zealand and does
it do the job ?
Dave... --- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> My ignitor is "knackered" as well. I have just ordered an
aftermarket one from a guy in New Zealand. Waiting for arrivial,
you can wait to see if it works or check his website out....
>
> www.erd.co.nz
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Luke
>
>
>
> mdm820si <mdm820si@y...> wrote: Hello Can any of you guys
help with a Suzuki GF250 Igniter as i need
> a replacement unit as the one i have is knackered, the code is
GF250
> 32900 - 34A00 TR Igniter BB1217 - KOKUSAN - DENKO 1801535.GF250
GJ7-
> C if you have a spare 1 plz e mail me - mdm820si@y... with how
> much you want for it along with p&p and i will get back to you.
> Thanks
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Luke did you recieve your new igniter from New Zealand and does
it do the job ?
Dave... --- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> My ignitor is "knackered" as well. I have just ordered an
aftermarket one from a guy in New Zealand. Waiting for arrivial,
you can wait to see if it works or check his website out....
>
> www.erd.co.nz
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Luke
>
>
>
> mdm820si <mdm820si@y...> wrote: Hello Can any of you guys
help with a Suzuki GF250 Igniter as i need
> a replacement unit as the one i have is knackered, the code is
GF250
> 32900 - 34A00 TR Igniter BB1217 - KOKUSAN - DENKO 1801535.GF250
GJ7-
> C if you have a spare 1 plz e mail me - mdm820si@y... with how
> much you want for it along with p&p and i will get back to you.
> Thanks
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Thanks for the reply i will give the web site a look and hopefully
find what i am looking for
Cheers
Dave...--- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> My ignitor is "knackered" as well. I have just ordered an
aftermarket one from a guy in New Zealand. Waiting for arrivial,
you can wait to see if it works or check his website out....
>
> www.erd.co.nz
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Luke
>
>
>
> mdm820si <mdm820si@y...> wrote: Hello Can any of you guys
help with a Suzuki GF250 Igniter as i need
> a replacement unit as the one i have is knackered, the code is
GF250
> 32900 - 34A00 TR Igniter BB1217 - KOKUSAN - DENKO 1801535.GF250
GJ7-
> C if you have a spare 1 plz e mail me - mdm820si@y... with how
> much you want for it along with p&p and i will get back to you.
> Thanks
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hello there,
My ignitor is "knackered" as well. I have just ordered an aftermarket one
from a guy in New Zealand. Waiting for arrivial, you can wait to see if it
works or check his website out....
www.erd.co.nz
Hope this helps,
Luke
mdm820si <mdm820si@...> wrote: Hello Can any of you guys help
with a Suzuki GF250 Igniter as i need
a replacement unit as the one i have is knackered, the code is GF250
32900 - 34A00 TR Igniter BB1217 - KOKUSAN - DENKO 1801535.GF250 GJ7-
C if you have a spare 1 plz e mail me - mdm820si@... with how
much you want for it along with p&p and i will get back to you.
Thanks
Dave.
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Hello Can any of you guys help with a Suzuki GF250 Igniter as i need
a replacement unit as the one i have is knackered, the code is GF250
32900 - 34A00 TR Igniter BB1217 - KOKUSAN - DENKO 1801535.GF250 GJ7-
C if you have a spare 1 plz e mail me - mdm820si@... with how
much you want for it along with p&p and i will get back to you.
Thanks
Dave.
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after testing it appears that my ignitor is toast. HAs anyone purchashed an
aftermarket ignitor? The suzuki ones seem to have a badish reputation..
cheers,
LUke
joleencarden <joleencarden@...> wrote:
Ok, you should get spark on cyl 1 and 4 at the same time and 2 and 3
at the same time. It is called wasted spark ignition. So if it
looks like it is all sparking at once I would say it is probably ok
(or at least 1/2 ok). Make sure the plugs are going to the right
cyl. Running left to right (as if you were sitting on the bike) it
should go 1,4,3,2.
See how you go.
cheers
Scott
--- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
> Cheers scott!
> I'm in newcastle 2 hours north of sydney.
>
> the problem I'm getting is spark on all cylinders I think at the
same time. It a little hard to tell cause the spark is so quick.
> I did however remove one of the I can't think of the technical
term : pickups on the rotor. I still get spark on all four
cylinders. Remove both pickups and no spark..
> I did test but can't remember what happens when I swap which pick
up is removed (does that make sense)
> Is my ignitor gone mad? could a bad earth cause these problems?
>
> Thanks again to all,
>
> Luke
>
> joleencarden <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
> What kind of problems are you getting now? Spark int he wrong
place
> at the wrong time? Weak spark? No spark?
>
> I may have some other suggestions...
>
> cheers
> Scott
>
> --- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
> <frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > joleencarden <joleencarden@y...> wrote: thanks heaps
scott,
> >
> > got the coils in the correct place now. still have ignition
> problems which suggest ignitor fault or short circiut.
> >
> > Will follow wiring
> >
> > thanks again your help has canceled some unknowns!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Luke
> >
> >
> >
> > OK. With the coils, running from left to right. Coil 1
(left)
> > Orange/White trace, White. This coil runs cyl 4, 1. Coil 2
> (right)
> > Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace. This coil runs cyl 2,
3.
> >
> > Igniter. Now this is harder to describe. If we take the clip
> part of
> > the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows.
> For the
> > small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace. Second row is
> > Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from
the
> > missing black). Bigger plug top row is White, Blank,
> Orange/White
> > trace. Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White
> trace.
> >
> > From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive
> feed to
> > both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
> > Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2. The others
> would be
> > grounds, feeds and crank signal.
> >
> > hope this helps
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
> > <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now
> to
> > > compare. I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I
> will
> > have
> > > a good old look for you. If they are way wrong I'll take
some
> pics
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Scott
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Ok, you should get spark on cyl 1 and 4 at the same time and 2 and 3
at the same time. It is called wasted spark ignition. So if it
looks like it is all sparking at once I would say it is probably ok
(or at least 1/2 ok). Make sure the plugs are going to the right
cyl. Running left to right (as if you were sitting on the bike) it
should go 1,4,3,2.
See how you go.
cheers
Scott
--- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
> Cheers scott!
> I'm in newcastle 2 hours north of sydney.
>
> the problem I'm getting is spark on all cylinders I think at the
same time. It a little hard to tell cause the spark is so quick.
> I did however remove one of the I can't think of the technical
term : pickups on the rotor. I still get spark on all four
cylinders. Remove both pickups and no spark..
> I did test but can't remember what happens when I swap which pick
up is removed (does that make sense)
> Is my ignitor gone mad? could a bad earth cause these problems?
>
> Thanks again to all,
>
> Luke
>
> joleencarden <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
> What kind of problems are you getting now? Spark int he wrong
place
> at the wrong time? Weak spark? No spark?
>
> I may have some other suggestions...
>
> cheers
> Scott
>
> --- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
> <frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > joleencarden <joleencarden@y...> wrote: thanks heaps
scott,
> >
> > got the coils in the correct place now. still have ignition
> problems which suggest ignitor fault or short circiut.
> >
> > Will follow wiring
> >
> > thanks again your help has canceled some unknowns!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Luke
> >
> >
> >
> > OK. With the coils, running from left to right. Coil 1
(left)
> > Orange/White trace, White. This coil runs cyl 4, 1. Coil 2
> (right)
> > Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace. This coil runs cyl 2,
3.
> >
> > Igniter. Now this is harder to describe. If we take the clip
> part of
> > the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows.
> For the
> > small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace. Second row is
> > Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from
the
> > missing black). Bigger plug top row is White, Blank,
> Orange/White
> > trace. Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White
> trace.
> >
> > From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive
> feed to
> > both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
> > Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2. The others
> would be
> > grounds, feeds and crank signal.
> >
> > hope this helps
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
> > <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now
> to
> > > compare. I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I
> will
> > have
> > > a good old look for you. If they are way wrong I'll take
some
> pics
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Scott
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Cheers scott!
I'm in newcastle 2 hours north of sydney.
the problem I'm getting is spark on all cylinders I think at the same time. It
a little hard to tell cause the spark is so quick.
I did however remove one of the I can't think of the technical term : pickups
on the rotor. I still get spark on all four cylinders. Remove both pickups and
no spark..
I did test but can't remember what happens when I swap which pick up is removed
(does that make sense)
Is my ignitor gone mad? could a bad earth cause these problems?
Thanks again to all,
Luke
joleencarden <joleencarden@...> wrote:
What kind of problems are you getting now? Spark int he wrong place
at the wrong time? Weak spark? No spark?
I may have some other suggestions...
cheers
Scott
--- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> joleencarden <joleencarden@y...> wrote: thanks heaps scott,
>
> got the coils in the correct place now. still have ignition
problems which suggest ignitor fault or short circiut.
>
> Will follow wiring
>
> thanks again your help has canceled some unknowns!
>
> Cheers
> Luke
>
>
>
> OK. With the coils, running from left to right. Coil 1 (left)
> Orange/White trace, White. This coil runs cyl 4, 1. Coil 2
(right)
> Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace. This coil runs cyl 2, 3.
>
> Igniter. Now this is harder to describe. If we take the clip
part of
> the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows.
For the
> small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace. Second row is
> Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from the
> missing black). Bigger plug top row is White, Blank,
Orange/White
> trace. Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White
trace.
>
> From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive
feed to
> both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
> Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2. The others
would be
> grounds, feeds and crank signal.
>
> hope this helps
> Scott
>
> --- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
> <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now
to
> > compare. I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I
will
> have
> > a good old look for you. If they are way wrong I'll take some
pics
> >
> > cheers
> > Scott
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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This board has been stagnant for a while so I thought it would be good
to see where current members are located. Who knows some of us may be
close by to help each other out....Or go for a cruise!
I am in Toowoomba about 1hrs west of Brisbane, but I am often down at
Tweed Heads (Nothern NSW).
cheers
Scott
What kind of problems are you getting now? Spark int he wrong place
at the wrong time? Weak spark? No spark?
I may have some other suggestions...
cheers
Scott
--- In suzuki250fours@..., Luke Ferguson
<frogsdancing@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> joleencarden <joleencarden@y...> wrote: thanks heaps scott,
>
> got the coils in the correct place now. still have ignition
problems which suggest ignitor fault or short circiut.
>
> Will follow wiring
>
> thanks again your help has canceled some unknowns!
>
> Cheers
> Luke
>
>
>
> OK. With the coils, running from left to right. Coil 1 (left)
> Orange/White trace, White. This coil runs cyl 4, 1. Coil 2
(right)
> Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace. This coil runs cyl 2, 3.
>
> Igniter. Now this is harder to describe. If we take the clip
part of
> the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows.
For the
> small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace. Second row is
> Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from the
> missing black). Bigger plug top row is White, Blank,
Orange/White
> trace. Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White
trace.
>
> From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive
feed to
> both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
> Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2. The others
would be
> grounds, feeds and crank signal.
>
> hope this helps
> Scott
>
> --- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
> <joleencarden@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now
to
> > compare. I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I
will
> have
> > a good old look for you. If they are way wrong I'll take some
pics
> >
> > cheers
> > Scott
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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joleencarden <joleencarden@...> wrote: thanks heaps scott,
got the coils in the correct place now. still have ignition problems which
suggest ignitor fault or short circiut.
Will follow wiring
thanks again your help has canceled some unknowns!
Cheers
Luke
OK. With the coils, running from left to right. Coil 1 (left)
Orange/White trace, White. This coil runs cyl 4, 1. Coil 2 (right)
Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace. This coil runs cyl 2, 3.
Igniter. Now this is harder to describe. If we take the clip part of
the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows. For the
small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace. Second row is
Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from the
missing black). Bigger plug top row is White, Blank, Orange/White
trace. Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White trace.
From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive feed to
both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2. The others would be
grounds, feeds and crank signal.
hope this helps
Scott
--- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
<joleencarden@y...> wrote:
>
> I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now to
> compare. I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I will
have
> a good old look for you. If they are way wrong I'll take some pics
>
> cheers
> Scott
>
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OK. With the coils, running from left to right. Coil 1 (left)
Orange/White trace, White. This coil runs cyl 4, 1. Coil 2 (right)
Orange/White trace, Black/Yellow trace. This coil runs cyl 2, 3.
Igniter. Now this is harder to describe. If we take the clip part of
the plug to represent the top then the wiring is as follows. For the
small plug top row is Brown, Green/WHite trace. Second row is
Black/White trace, blank( this matches your plug apart from the
missing black). Bigger plug top row is White, Blank, Orange/White
trace. Second row is Black/Yellow trace, Blank, Black/White trace.
From all that I would assume that Orang/WHite is the positive feed to
both coils and White is the negative trigger forCoil 1 and
Black/Yellow is the negative trigger for coil 2. The others would be
grounds, feeds and crank signal.
hope this helps
Scott
--- In suzuki250fours@..., "joleencarden"
<joleencarden@y...> wrote:
>
> I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now to
> compare. I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I will
have
> a good old look for you. If they are way wrong I'll take some pics
>
> cheers
> Scott
>
I have just printed the pictures out and will go outside now to
compare. I already have the tank off and the carbs out so I will have
a good old look for you. If they are way wrong I'll take some pics
cheers
Scott
I have a GS250FW too. I have had the same probs with hard starting.
It all comes down to the idle jets (4 of them). As these engines are
quite small but have fairly big carbs the jets especially on idle have
to be tiny. Any gunk will block them in a matter of days. Make sure
once they are cleaned to have a filter installed. Also flush out your
tank. I can almost guarantee that there is rust in there.
As for no reving out all the way. The air box is a good suggestion
but it could also be the slides not moving freely. On my GS some kids
came around and toppled my bike while playing on it. This was enough
to bend the brass alignment rod that the slides move up on (if you
remove the top of the cab it has a brass protrusion). Just a small
bend of this will restrict the slide and no matter what throttle
application you give if the slide can't move you wont rev out.
cheers
Scott
hey guys, i have done a paint job for my bike.
could somebody please take a close up picture of the GS250FW design logo
(located at the bottom cover for the reservoir of the engine cololant) so that i
could scan it and take it to the shop so my friend could make me a designed
sticker for my bike..
thanks.
jobert
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Hey mark,
the local suzuki dealer (newcastle) had all but the cylinder gasket which took
a week or so from japan. Had tried sourcing from japan and after market but had
no luck. The rings are really expensive, around $100 each piston while the head
gasket wasn't too bad from memory. The kit costing just under $500. Other things
to consider is the wear on the cylinders (do you need to upsize pistons) and the
condition of the valves ie do they need to be replaced. I didn't touch the
bottom end.... famous last words.
Good luck
Luke
Mark <fiandme@...> wrote:
Hey frogs, just wondering if you were able to get your gasket set? did
you get new rings and bearing too! If you were able to source them,
where did you get them from, how much and do you know if they are the
same as a GS250FW. I am thinking about a full rebuild for my bike.
Thanks, Mark
>
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Hey frogs, just wondering if you were able to get your gasket set? did
you get new rings and bearing too! If you were able to source them,
where did you get them from, how much and do you know if they are the
same as a GS250FW. I am thinking about a full rebuild for my bike.
Thanks, Mark
>
G'day all,
I've posted some photos of the rebuild and of my electricals. You can find the
in the photo section of use this link
http://au.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/suzuki250fours/photos/browse/c6ca
Kind regards,
LUke
John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote: Hi Luke,
I just checked the settings of the photo section of the Yahoo group page and
it seems that members weren't allowed to upload photos. I have changed the
setting so you should be able to upload now.
I dont't have my GF250 anymore so I can't help you with a photo of the
wiring. However, I have been told by a Suzuki dealer (who borrowed my old
bike once to help him fix another customer's) that the ignitor is a common
problem.
Incidently I am in the market for a cheap bike and wouldn't mind another
GF250. If anyone has a working one for sale in NSW please let me know.
Thanks.
John Avis
>From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] gf250s electics
>Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:21:06 -0000
>
>G'day all,
>
>I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
>people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
>questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
>me. I hope that I can return the favour.
>
>I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
>since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
>set and I have compression.
>I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
>am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
>either....
>
> 1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
>running because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
>"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
>friend said, "its an unknown"
>
>2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
>this as much as possible.
>
>3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
>the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
>a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
>coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
>does not show which wires plug in where.
>I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
>place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
>the rebuild which I would like to post.)
>
>4. Something else that I haven't thought about.
>
>
>thanks heaps,
>
>luke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Cheers John,
I'll post my photos ASAP
If anyone could cross reference their bike with my photos i would be grateful
Or if anyone is wrecking a bike with ignitor
Muchly appreciated.
Luke
John Avis <john_avis@...> wrote: Hi Luke,
I just checked the settings of the photo section of the Yahoo group page and
it seems that members weren't allowed to upload photos. I have changed the
setting so you should be able to upload now.
I dont't have my GF250 anymore so I can't help you with a photo of the
wiring. However, I have been told by a Suzuki dealer (who borrowed my old
bike once to help him fix another customer's) that the ignitor is a common
problem.
Incidently I am in the market for a cheap bike and wouldn't mind another
GF250. If anyone has a working one for sale in NSW please let me know.
Thanks.
John Avis
>From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] gf250s electics
>Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:21:06 -0000
>
>G'day all,
>
>I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
>people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
>questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
>me. I hope that I can return the favour.
>
>I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
>since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
>set and I have compression.
>I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
>am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
>either....
>
> 1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
>running because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
>"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
>friend said, "its an unknown"
>
>2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
>this as much as possible.
>
>3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
>the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
>a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
>coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
>does not show which wires plug in where.
>I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
>place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
>the rebuild which I would like to post.)
>
>4. Something else that I haven't thought about.
>
>
>thanks heaps,
>
>luke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Luke,
I just checked the settings of the photo section of the Yahoo group page and
it seems that members weren't allowed to upload photos. I have changed the
setting so you should be able to upload now.
I dont't have my GF250 anymore so I can't help you with a photo of the
wiring. However, I have been told by a Suzuki dealer (who borrowed my old
bike once to help him fix another customer's) that the ignitor is a common
problem.
Incidently I am in the market for a cheap bike and wouldn't mind another
GF250. If anyone has a working one for sale in NSW please let me know.
Thanks.
John Avis
>From: "frogsdancing" <frogsdancing@...>
>Reply-To: suzuki250fours@...
>To: suzuki250fours@...
>Subject: [suzuki250fours] gf250s electics
>Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:21:06 -0000
>
>G'day all,
>
>I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
>people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
>questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
>me. I hope that I can return the favour.
>
>I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
>since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
>set and I have compression.
>I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
>am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
>either....
>
> 1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
>running because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
>"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
>friend said, "its an unknown"
>
>2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
>this as much as possible.
>
>3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
>the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
>a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
>coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
>does not show which wires plug in where.
>I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
>place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
>the rebuild which I would like to post.)
>
>4. Something else that I haven't thought about.
>
>
>thanks heaps,
>
>luke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
G'day all,
I have read over this thread and recieved good idears. Thanks to all
people who have answered questions beforehand. I too have a few
questions and I thank anyone who takes time out of their lives to help
me. I hope that I can return the favour.
I am a owner of a 87 gf250s. I recieved the bike not running and have
since changed the rings and overhauled the top end. My shims have been
set and I have compression.
I am now entering the murky waters of the electrics. At the moment I
am getting spark on all sparks plugs which would suggest
either....
1.a dicky ignitor. This is highly probable. The bike was not
running because the ignitor broke. The previous owner got the ignitor
"fixed" but never bothered to put the bike back together again. As a
friend said, "its an unknown"
2. a short circuit. This is possible and I am currently investigating
this as much as possible.
3. That when the bike broke down, and or when I've been frigg'n about
the wiring has been messed up. Does anyone have a photo or could take
a photo of their ignitor (the plugs more then anything) and of the
coils. I've tried comparing with the manual but the wiring diagram
does not show which wires plug in where.
I've taken photos of mine and was wondering if anyone knew if I could
place photos in the gallery on this site? (I've also taken photos of
the rebuild which I would like to post.)
4. Something else that I haven't thought about.
thanks heaps,
luke
Hey Mal,
Just got off the phone with a bike mechanic and told him the symptoms of my bike
and when I told him that I didn't have the air cleaner and box on it he
suggested that that could be the problem with it not revving. He said that these
engines need to have that restriction in place to get the full revs or it runs
way too lean. Thought that might be the problem with yours too!
Mark Cowling
----- Original Message -----
From: Fi and Me
To: suzuki250fours@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [suzuki250fours] Just Wondering
From: malcolm wallace
To: suzuki250fours@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [suzuki250fours] Just Wondering
Hi Mark
I may not be the best person to answer this as i can still not make mine
go. however the times that it did go it was very limited with the revs, it was
hard to start and only reved to 5500. then after getting advise to check the
valvue clearances, I got those set and when it was next started it reved great
all they way, The only reason the valvue clearances were out was because i
changed the head gasket and mixed 2 up. The next time i could only run it by
spraying areo start into the carbiles and could not even make it rev, so the
nice running motor was short lived.
mal
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Thanks Mal, But since I cleaned the carbies it starts first go now and I think
the problem may be the mixture screws. I have been informed that the valve
clearance is correct but I'm not sure on how to double check this myself.
Mark Cowling
----- Original Message -----
From: malcolm wallace
To: suzuki250fours@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [suzuki250fours] Just Wondering
Hi Mark
I may not be the best person to answer this as i can still not make mine go.
however the times that it did go it was very limited with the revs, it was hard
to start and only reved to 5500. then after getting advise to check the valvue
clearances, I got those set and when it was next started it reved great all they
way, The only reason the valvue clearances were out was because i changed the
head gasket and mixed 2 up. The next time i could only run it by spraying areo
start into the carbiles and could not even make it rev, so the nice running
motor was short lived.
mal
cowlingmark <fiandme@...> wrote:
Hi Guys, Just wondering if these pages are still current as the last
post was quite awhile ago. I have just bought a GS250FW that wasn't
running and after looking at these pages and the info given I was able
to get it started (thanks) but since then I have encounted a few more
probs,I.E it won't rev out properly and is still hard to start, but
Idles well. To get it going I had to strip the carbies down and clean
them out, 1 was completely blocked with junk. All the jets are now
clean and the diaphrams are in good condition. I don't know much about
the carbies so when I cleaned them I put everything back as it was. Are
the mixture screws the little one on the top front of each inlet port?
What should they be set at? The manual that came with the bike
(download copy) stated they should be out 1+1/4 turns. Is this correct
or does it change as the mileage increases? This bike has done over
70,000 km. There are no undue noises coming from the engine while its
running and the previous owner said that the valve clearences had been
checked and adjusted already. The spark is strong and the compression
seems good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark.
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Hi Mark
I may not be the best person to answer this as i can still not make mine go.
however the times that it did go it was very limited with the revs, it was hard
to start and only reved to 5500. then after getting advise to check the valvue
clearances, I got those set and when it was next started it reved great all they
way, The only reason the valvue clearances were out was because i changed the
head gasket and mixed 2 up. The next time i could only run it by spraying areo
start into the carbiles and could not even make it rev, so the nice running
motor was short lived.
mal
cowlingmark <fiandme@...> wrote:
Hi Guys, Just wondering if these pages are still current as the last
post was quite awhile ago. I have just bought a GS250FW that wasn't
running and after looking at these pages and the info given I was able
to get it started (thanks) but since then I have encounted a few more
probs,I.E it won't rev out properly and is still hard to start, but
Idles well. To get it going I had to strip the carbies down and clean
them out, 1 was completely blocked with junk. All the jets are now
clean and the diaphrams are in good condition. I don't know much about
the carbies so when I cleaned them I put everything back as it was. Are
the mixture screws the little one on the top front of each inlet port?
What should they be set at? The manual that came with the bike
(download copy) stated they should be out 1+1/4 turns. Is this correct
or does it change as the mileage increases? This bike has done over
70,000 km. There are no undue noises coming from the engine while its
running and the previous owner said that the valve clearences had been
checked and adjusted already. The spark is strong and the compression
seems good. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mark.
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