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#50 From: "John Avis" <john_avis@...>
Date: Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:35 am
Subject:: RE: GS250FW 85
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I am pretty sure it is the same.

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>I foun a GS 250 FW 85 model. Is this the same motor as my GS250FWD 83?
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#49 From: "wallacemalcolm" <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:17 am
Subject:: GS250FW 85
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Hi Guys

I foun a GS 250 FW 85 model. Is this the same motor as my GS250FWD 83?

Malcolm

#48 From: numbat71
Date: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:59 am
Subject:: GS250FW for sale
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Hi All,

Just a quick note to let you know that I have a GS250FW for sale -
Red, registered and runs beautifully.... Anyone interested or knows
of anyone that might want one??  I'm in Perth Western Australia.

#47 From: "Carl Johnston" <cjohnston@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:03 am
Subject:: Re: Still not running
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Hi Malcom,

I got mine from the Suzuki dealer when I had an Across, though you can
also get it from here:

  http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SuzukiAcross/files/

Cheers,


Carl

>
> Hey Carl
>
> where can I download the
> workshop manual for the GSX250F
>
> Malcolm
>
>
> Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
> Hi Malcom,
>
> I'm having a similar problem with mine (though I haven't got the time to
> work it out - I think it's fuel related) - mine will rev past 6k, though
> between 5.5k and 7k it's a real dog, only to pick up really nicely.
>
> I wouldn't know about the ignitor, I'd be asking the wrecker about this.
>
> Are you getting good spark?  Have you got the enricher (choke) connected
> and working correctly?  Have you adjusted the pilot air jets (mixtures)?
>
> Have you downloaded the workshop manual?
>
> The float levels are measured from the carb-body surface (the majority of
> the flat section under the carb-body [not the raised sections]) to the
> highest point on the float.  The float has to be just touching the needle,
> not putting pressure on it.
>
> If you grab the workshop manual, there's a (reasonably) good diagram for
> measuring float levels.  If you still can't work it out, go download the
> workshop manual for the GSX250F (Across), as they're really similar, and
> the diagrams are much better.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Carl
>
>>
>>
>> I am still have ing trouble starting. and when running very slow to
>> rev up to a maximum of about 6000RPM.
>>
>> I have noticed that the igniter the wreakers gave me is from a GSX
>> 750. Could this be a issue?
>>
>> I checked the timing last night it is fine.
>>
>> I tried to check the float levels and I am unsure to where I am to
>> measure from.
>>
>> If anyone can help me out it would be fantastic.
>>
>> Malcolm
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#46 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:56 am
Subject:: Re: Still not running
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Hey Carl

where can I download the
workshop manual for the GSX250F

Malcolm


Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
Hi Malcom,

I'm having a similar problem with mine (though I haven't got the time to
work it out - I think it's fuel related) - mine will rev past 6k, though
between 5.5k and 7k it's a real dog, only to pick up really nicely.

I wouldn't know about the ignitor, I'd be asking the wrecker about this.

Are you getting good spark?  Have you got the enricher (choke) connected
and working correctly?  Have you adjusted the pilot air jets (mixtures)?

Have you downloaded the workshop manual?

The float levels are measured from the carb-body surface (the majority of
the flat section under the carb-body [not the raised sections]) to the
highest point on the float.  The float has to be just touching the needle,
not putting pressure on it.

If you grab the workshop manual, there's a (reasonably) good diagram for
measuring float levels.  If you still can't work it out, go download the
workshop manual for the GSX250F (Across), as they're really similar, and
the diagrams are much better.


Cheers,


Carl

>
>
> I am still have ing trouble starting. and when running very slow to
> rev up to a maximum of about 6000RPM.
>
> I have noticed that the igniter the wreakers gave me is from a GSX
> 750. Could this be a issue?
>
> I checked the timing last night it is fine.
>
> I tried to check the float levels and I am unsure to where I am to
> measure from.
>
> If anyone can help me out it would be fantastic.
>
> Malcolm
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#45 From: "Carl Johnston" <cjohnston@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:56 am
Subject:: Re: Still not running
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Hi Malcom,

The idle mixture settings are the four screws on the top of the carbs,
furthest towards the engine.  Stock settings are at 1.5 turns from lightly
seated (in).

To properly tune these, I believe that you'll need an exhaust gas
analyser, though you can tune them by ear/RPM.

You'll be tuning the idle for the smoothest running/highest RPM.  To tune,
turning the screws out makes the mixture richer, in is leaner.  You may
need to turn each one out from stock (making note of how far out you've
turned it) if you've got any inlet/exhaust mods.

What you should do, is make note of where they are now, counting the
number of turns until they're seated.  Set them to the stock position,
then turn each one out (making note of the number of turns) until the revs
peak, then drop off.  Turn the screw back in until the revs peak again.
Re-set the idle after you've done each cylinder.

This may also help you with fault finding:
  http://www.factorypro.com/tech/carbtune,CV,lower_rpm_engines.html

On a side note, do you still have the body of your GS250FW (minus
engine/electrics of course)?  And would you be willing to part with it?


Let us know how you go, and do you have any pictures of your kart?


Cheers,


Carl

>
> Hi Carl
>
> I have not tried any different mixtures. I have the choke connected and
> when cold will only start with it and takes a while to get going. Once
> going and warm seems to idle fine.
>
> I will check out the float level diagrams and as for the mixture settings,
> I don't have a clue so if it comes down to that I'll have to find a good
> motorbike mech in melbourne.
>
> Thanks
>
> I'll let you know how I go.
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>
>
> Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
> Hi Malcom,
>
> I'm having a similar problem with mine (though I haven't got the time to
> work it out - I think it's fuel related) - mine will rev past 6k, though
> between 5.5k and 7k it's a real dog, only to pick up really nicely.
>
> I wouldn't know about the ignitor, I'd be asking the wrecker about this.
>
> Are you getting good spark?  Have you got the enricher (choke) connected
> and working correctly?  Have you adjusted the pilot air jets (mixtures)?
>
> Have you downloaded the workshop manual?
>
> The float levels are measured from the carb-body surface (the majority of
> the flat section under the carb-body [not the raised sections]) to the
> highest point on the float.  The float has to be just touching the needle,
> not putting pressure on it.
>
> If you grab the workshop manual, there's a (reasonably) good diagram for
> measuring float levels.  If you still can't work it out, go download the
> workshop manual for the GSX250F (Across), as they're really similar, and
> the diagrams are much better.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Carl
>
>>
>>
>> I am still have ing trouble starting. and when running very slow to
>> rev up to a maximum of about 6000RPM.
>>
>> I have noticed that the igniter the wreakers gave me is from a GSX
>> 750. Could this be a issue?
>>
>> I checked the timing last night it is fine.
>>
>> I tried to check the float levels and I am unsure to where I am to
>> measure from.
>>
>> If anyone can help me out it would be fantastic.
>>
>> Malcolm
>>
>>
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#44 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:33 am
Subject:: Re: Still not running
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Hi Carl

I have not tried any different mixtures. I have the choke connected and when
cold will only start with it and takes a while to get going. Once going and warm
seems to idle fine.

I will check out the float level diagrams and as for the mixture settings, I
don't have a clue so if it comes down to that I'll have to find a good motorbike
mech in melbourne.

Thanks

I'll let you know how I go.

Malcolm




Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:
Hi Malcom,

I'm having a similar problem with mine (though I haven't got the time to
work it out - I think it's fuel related) - mine will rev past 6k, though
between 5.5k and 7k it's a real dog, only to pick up really nicely.

I wouldn't know about the ignitor, I'd be asking the wrecker about this.

Are you getting good spark?  Have you got the enricher (choke) connected
and working correctly?  Have you adjusted the pilot air jets (mixtures)?

Have you downloaded the workshop manual?

The float levels are measured from the carb-body surface (the majority of
the flat section under the carb-body [not the raised sections]) to the
highest point on the float.  The float has to be just touching the needle,
not putting pressure on it.

If you grab the workshop manual, there's a (reasonably) good diagram for
measuring float levels.  If you still can't work it out, go download the
workshop manual for the GSX250F (Across), as they're really similar, and
the diagrams are much better.


Cheers,


Carl

>
>
> I am still have ing trouble starting. and when running very slow to
> rev up to a maximum of about 6000RPM.
>
> I have noticed that the igniter the wreakers gave me is from a GSX
> 750. Could this be a issue?
>
> I checked the timing last night it is fine.
>
> I tried to check the float levels and I am unsure to where I am to
> measure from.
>
> If anyone can help me out it would be fantastic.
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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#43 From: "Carl Johnston" <cjohnston@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:19 am
Subject:: Re: Still not running
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Hi Malcom,

I'm having a similar problem with mine (though I haven't got the time to
work it out - I think it's fuel related) - mine will rev past 6k, though
between 5.5k and 7k it's a real dog, only to pick up really nicely.

I wouldn't know about the ignitor, I'd be asking the wrecker about this.

Are you getting good spark?  Have you got the enricher (choke) connected
and working correctly?  Have you adjusted the pilot air jets (mixtures)?

Have you downloaded the workshop manual?

The float levels are measured from the carb-body surface (the majority of
the flat section under the carb-body [not the raised sections]) to the
highest point on the float.  The float has to be just touching the needle,
not putting pressure on it.

If you grab the workshop manual, there's a (reasonably) good diagram for
measuring float levels.  If you still can't work it out, go download the
workshop manual for the GSX250F (Across), as they're really similar, and
the diagrams are much better.


Cheers,


Carl

>
>
> I am still have ing trouble starting. and when running very slow to
> rev up to a maximum of about 6000RPM.
>
> I have noticed that the igniter the wreakers gave me is from a GSX
> 750. Could this be a issue?
>
> I checked the timing last night it is fine.
>
> I tried to check the float levels and I am unsure to where I am to
> measure from.
>
> If anyone can help me out it would be fantastic.
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#42 From: "wallacemalcolm" <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:03 am
Subject:: Still not running
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I am still have ing trouble starting. and when running very slow to
rev up to a maximum of about 6000RPM.

I have noticed that the igniter the wreakers gave me is from a GSX
750. Could this be a issue?

I checked the timing last night it is fine.

I tried to check the float levels and I am unsure to where I am to
measure from.

If anyone can help me out it would be fantastic.

Malcolm

#41 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Fri Jan 7, 2005 6:09 am
Subject:: Re: Running problems
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Wow thanks very much. I will get into it tonight.

Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...> wrote:Hi Malcom,

There should be two openings into the venturi on the tops of the carbs,
they will have vertical mounting points for tubes.  These tubes are used
for the vacuum operated petcock (which you won't be using on a go-kart).
With these un-obstructed, you'll have running problems, as it will be
sucking in fresh air directly into cylinder 2 and 3.

Try blocking these up, or just connecting them together with a hose or
something, this may fix your problem.

The two that run out of the in-sides of the carbs are just breathers, i'd
prop these up in a spot that's higher than the carbs.

Are you running with the standard exhaust?  If you're running a free
flowing exhaust then you'll either need to change needle possitions and
pilot air screws, or re-jet to get the correct mixture.  I have a feeling
that you'll need to do this anyway, because you're not running an airbox
(which is asking for trouble!).

Backfire out the carbs is (as i've read) usually caused by running lean.

I'd suggest doing a plug-chop (cutting the motor while under load,
coasting to a stop with clutch in) after initially cleaning the plugs and
reading the plugs to get a better feel or what the engine's doing.

Float levels are checked with the float bowl off, you measure off the carb
body to the highest point on the float, with the float just resting on the
(sprung) needle.  From memory it should be 20.5mm +- 1mm, and they should
both be set to the same level).


Cheers,


Carl


>
>
> After a long time I have now fixed my wiring got a new CDI, got
> spark, put new head and base gasket onto my GS250FWD with a lot help
> from you guys. Thank you
>
> Now I have reached the part where I want the thing to run. I have it
> in a go kart. Spark is strong. Exhaust is complete but no air box.
>
> It will only start and run on full choke. it takes ages to accelerate
> and will only get to a max rev of aprox 5000 RPM it is a rough and
> after it has been running I feel the exhausts and it is hot in
> cylinder 1 and only warm in the others. It seams to run very rich and
> whilst trying to start can backfire out the carbies.
>
> I have the Carbie set up as:
> There are four hoses on the carbies 1 is fuel inlet. and other 2 are
> return that I have running to the ground (nothing comes out) and the
> other I don't know I have tried it un-blocked and blocked.
>
> Another question is how do you check the float levels. I am used to a
> window and level mark.
>
> If anyone can help It will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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F: (03) 9417 7336


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#40 From: "Carl Johnston" <cjohnston@...>
Date: Fri Jan 7, 2005 5:25 am
Subject:: Re: Running problems
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Hi Malcom,

There should be two openings into the venturi on the tops of the carbs,
they will have vertical mounting points for tubes.  These tubes are used
for the vacuum operated petcock (which you won't be using on a go-kart).
With these un-obstructed, you'll have running problems, as it will be
sucking in fresh air directly into cylinder 2 and 3.

Try blocking these up, or just connecting them together with a hose or
something, this may fix your problem.

The two that run out of the in-sides of the carbs are just breathers, i'd
prop these up in a spot that's higher than the carbs.

Are you running with the standard exhaust?  If you're running a free
flowing exhaust then you'll either need to change needle possitions and
pilot air screws, or re-jet to get the correct mixture.  I have a feeling
that you'll need to do this anyway, because you're not running an airbox
(which is asking for trouble!).

Backfire out the carbs is (as i've read) usually caused by running lean.

I'd suggest doing a plug-chop (cutting the motor while under load,
coasting to a stop with clutch in) after initially cleaning the plugs and
reading the plugs to get a better feel or what the engine's doing.

Float levels are checked with the float bowl off, you measure off the carb
body to the highest point on the float, with the float just resting on the
(sprung) needle.  From memory it should be 20.5mm +- 1mm, and they should
both be set to the same level).


Cheers,


Carl


>
>
> After a long time I have now fixed my wiring got a new CDI, got
> spark, put new head and base gasket onto my GS250FWD with a lot help
> from you guys. Thank you
>
> Now I have reached the part where I want the thing to run. I have it
> in a go kart. Spark is strong. Exhaust is complete but no air box.
>
> It will only start and run on full choke. it takes ages to accelerate
> and will only get to a max rev of aprox 5000 RPM it is a rough and
> after it has been running I feel the exhausts and it is hot in
> cylinder 1 and only warm in the others. It seams to run very rich and
> whilst trying to start can backfire out the carbies.
>
> I have the Carbie set up as:
> There are four hoses on the carbies 1 is fuel inlet. and other 2 are
> return that I have running to the ground (nothing comes out) and the
> other I don't know I have tried it un-blocked and blocked.
>
> Another question is how do you check the float levels. I am used to a
> window and level mark.
>
> If anyone can help It will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Malcolm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
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BiziWorks Support
W: www.biziworks.com.au
E: support@...
P: (03) 8415 1788
F: (03) 9417 7336

#39 From: "wallacemalcolm" <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Fri Jan 7, 2005 5:08 am
Subject:: Running problems
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After a long time I have now fixed my wiring got a new CDI, got
spark, put new head and base gasket onto my GS250FWD with a lot help
from you guys. Thank you

Now I have reached the part where I want the thing to run. I have it
in a go kart. Spark is strong. Exhaust is complete but no air box.

It will only start and run on full choke. it takes ages to accelerate
and will only get to a max rev of aprox 5000 RPM it is a rough and
after it has been running I feel the exhausts and it is hot in
cylinder 1 and only warm in the others. It seams to run very rich and
whilst trying to start can backfire out the carbies.

I have the Carbie set up as:
There are four hoses on the carbies 1 is fuel inlet. and other 2 are
return that I have running to the ground (nothing comes out) and the
other I don't know I have tried it un-blocked and blocked.

Another question is how do you check the float levels. I am used to a
window and level mark.

If anyone can help It will be much appreciated.

Thanks

Malcolm

#38 From: "vicki49ross" <jimr@...>
Date: Wed Dec 8, 2004 10:21 am
Subject:: GF250 for sale
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Well, I'm being lazy and using my partner's yahoo account (but the
email will reach me). Just to let affionados know first that my 1987
GF250 is up for sale - due to my deciding to splurge on an SV650S!

$1700 (slightly negotiable to a good home). Located in Northern NSW.
68000kms on the clock and still running strong (Mr. Suzuki knows his
engineering!). Some pics of the bike as featured on this site can be
found at: http://au.geocities.com/jimr_52/SuzukiGF250data.htm
If you're into collecting, it's original except for the tasty (but
non-Suzuki) paintwork. Frame is showing the rust-stain breakthrough
on
the paintwork that's so common with bikes of this era, and our house
moggy put some minor nicks in the seat surface.
Excellent condition for this model. Gearsack rack will be thrown in
(if you want to spoil the appearance and do some practical touring)

Rego XIK27 (expires end of this month but will easily renew)

Better be quick tho' as I'm putting it on the open market in a couple
of days
Regards
Jim Richardson : jimr@...

#37 From: anthony wooly <andonious@...>
Date: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:54 am
Subject:: RE: Problems with starting
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Hi Graham, thanks for the info I really appreciate it!! and I'll check over all
the things you've mentioned

Anthony

graham <deaks@...> wrote:
From personal experience I would make the following observations

Check for carb flooding, this could be due to
1.                   Corroded needles and or jets.
2.                   The float level may have changed due the bowl
sitting empty and drying out.


Other possible carb problems could be

1.       Water in fuel system
2.       Blocked idle jets (sediment settlement or just blocked)
3.       Blocked fuel lines (fuel cock?)


Drain the fuel and put in a fresh batch, in NZ after three months the
fuel is useless due to the additives and blends breaking down.

Confirm that you have a good spark, if not identify the source of the
weak spark


-----Original Message-----
From: anthony wooly [mailto:andonious@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 3:01 p.m.
To: suzuki250fours@...
Subject: [suzuki250fours] Problems with starting

Hi, am having a bit of a problem. Because my bike (GS250FW) had been
sitting for around 4-5 months I decided to get it serviced. The
serviceing has now been done, new plugs, leads, oil, battery, etc but
can't get her to fire. There is no problem with the bike turning over it
just won't start, and I've also tried jump starting in second and third
gear but to no avail. Please if someone out there could give me any tips
on this I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for your time.

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#36 From: graham <deaks@...>
Date: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:08 am
Subject:: RE: Problems with starting
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From personal experience I would make the following observations

Check for carb flooding, this could be due to
1.                   Corroded needles and or jets.
2.                   The float level may have changed due the bowl
sitting empty and drying out.


Other possible carb problems could be

1.       Water in fuel system
2.       Blocked idle jets (sediment settlement or just blocked)
3.       Blocked fuel lines (fuel cock?)


Drain the fuel and put in a fresh batch, in NZ after three months the
fuel is useless due to the additives and blends breaking down.

Confirm that you have a good spark, if not identify the source of the
weak spark


-----Original Message-----
From: anthony wooly [mailto:andonious@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 3:01 p.m.
To: suzuki250fours@...
Subject: [suzuki250fours] Problems with starting

Hi, am having a bit of a problem. Because my bike (GS250FW) had been
sitting for around 4-5 months I decided to get it serviced. The
serviceing has now been done, new plugs, leads, oil, battery, etc but
can't get her to fire. There is no problem with the bike turning over it
just won't start, and I've also tried jump starting in second and third
gear but to no avail. Please if someone out there could give me any tips
on this I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for your time.

Anthony



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#35 From: anthony wooly <andonious@...>
Date: Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:01 am
Subject:: Problems with starting
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Hi, am having a bit of a problem. Because my bike (GS250FW) had been sitting for
around 4-5 months I decided to get it serviced. The serviceing has now been
done, new plugs, leads, oil, battery, etc but can't get her to fire. There is no
problem with the bike turning over it just won't start, and I've also tried jump
starting in second and third gear but to no avail. Please if someone out there
could give me any tips on this I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks for your time.

Anthony



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#34 From: "sens1bl3" <cjohnston@...>
Date: Mon Nov 8, 2004 1:36 am
Subject:: Picture of GS250FW
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone had a decent picture of a GS250FW.  I've
looked through the yahoo albums, but they're all pretty low quality.


Thanks!


Carl

#33 From: Carl Johnston <cjohnston@...>
Date: Mon Nov 1, 2004 12:38 am
Subject:: Re: CAM timing 1 tooth in or out.
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Hi Malcolm,

Have you downloaded the service manual from the yahoo site?  Section
4.23 and 4.24 go into re-timing the engine and putting the cams back
in.  There's a few diagrams of how it's supposed to be timed, as well as
quite a thorough procedure to follow.

I'd forget about the scratch marks you've made on the cams and chain and
follow this procedure to get it back in line.


If you'd like a copy of the pages, let me know.


Cheers,


Carl

On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 10:32, malcolm wallace wrote:
> On the weekend I put my head back on my GS250fwd 83,
>
> When I'll pulled my cams out I marked (scratched) my chain so it matched the 3
and the arrow on the cam gear. now I am putting my cams back in after replacing
the head gasket I am a little stumped. The mark I did points at the arrow in one
position and If I move the cam 1 tooth difference the mark on the chain points
between the arrow and the #3 I cant remember whice one it was.
>
> The cyl 2 and 3 are at the top of there strokes and the cylinder 3 is starting
to open the inlet valve. I have not bolted the cams back in yet as I am not sure
if i am correct or 1 tooth out.
>
> I hope this is clear enough.
>
> If there is anyone that can help me or give me some advice to solving this
problem. It would be much appreciated.
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#32 From: malcolm wallace <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:32 pm
Subject:: CAM timing 1 tooth in or out.
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On the weekend I put my head back on my GS250fwd 83,

When I'll pulled my cams out I marked (scratched) my chain so it matched the 3
and the arrow on the cam gear. now I am putting my cams back in after replacing
the head gasket I am a little stumped. The mark I did points at the arrow in one
position and If I move the cam 1 tooth difference the mark on the chain points
between the arrow and the #3 I cant remember whice one it was.

The cyl 2 and 3 are at the top of there strokes and the cylinder 3 is starting
to open the inlet valve. I have not bolted the cams back in yet as I am not sure
if i am correct or 1 tooth out.

I hope this is clear enough.

If there is anyone that can help me or give me some advice to solving this
problem. It would be much appreciated.

thanks

Malcolm





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#31 From: "sens1bl3" <cjohnston@...>
Date: Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:41 am
Subject:: GS250FW Piston Rings
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Hi Guys,

Two posts in one day!  I'm after a set of piston rings for a GS250FW -
I've tried suzuki, and they say that they can get them - at a cost
which is a bit steep for me.  I was wondering if anyone around here
had a set, or knew of anyone who has them, any one who imports stuff
like this, basically any information at all?

I've tried suziparts, parts finder, calling ring manufacturers etc.
It seems that noone has any in stock, for a reasonable price..


Any help would be most appreciated.


Cheers,


Carl

#30 From: "sens1bl3" <cjohnston@...>
Date: Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:35 am
Subject:: Re: hiya
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Hi Grant,

What year's your Katana?  You might find that it's similar to the
GSX250F (Across), which I think was around since '91.  The GS250FW and
GF250 have early variations on this engine - from what I understand.


Cheers,


Carl

--- In suzuki250fours@..., "grant" <ozguy_01b@y...> wrote:
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> hey guys!! i reckon you must have bikes rarer than rocking horse
> shit .
> i owned one for a very short time-it was stolen-back in 1983
> blew the door off my old gt250 and gave the "new "rz250 a fright
>
> my question-is the motor the same as that in the "newish"250 katanas?
> i have 3 pop up headlight 750s and the boys in the club have several
> 250's between them but we cant locate a workshop manual.
>
> i have only just though of looking to see if there was aa user group
> for this rare model and bingo here you are!!
>
> cheers guys
> grant truman melbourne australia

#29 From: "grant" <ozguy_01b@...>
Date: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:56 pm
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hey guys!! i reckon you must have bikes rarer than rocking horse
shit .
i owned one for a very short time-it was stolen-back in 1983
blew the door off my old gt250 and gave the "new "rz250 a fright

my question-is the motor the same as that in the "newish"250 katanas?
i have 3 pop up headlight 750s and the boys in the club have several
250's between them but we cant locate a workshop manual.

i have only just though of looking to see if there was aa user group
for this rare model and bingo here you are!!

cheers guys
grant truman melbourne australia

#28 From: "john_avis" <john_avis@...>
Date: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:43 am
Subject:: GS250FW on eBay
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There is a GS250FW on eBay that somebody might be interested in for
parts or for repair. Presently $300.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=32625&item=2495884703&rd=1

#27 From: anthony wooly <andonious@...>
Date: Wed Oct 6, 2004 2:09 pm
Subject:: Re: Carbs and idling
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Hi Gary, I have the same problem with my bike. A friend has put me onto a
ex-mechanic who for 14 years worked for porche and ferrari and he fix's
cars/bikes for pure enjoyment, for a small fee of course. Hoping to take my bike
to him in about a week so once he finds the prob I can email you if you like.
Regards,
Anthony

garrym_au <garrym@...> wrote:

I have a problem. My motor runs very well, that is as long as it's
kept above 2800 rpm. I have looked for air leaks, but not found any. I
am not a carb expert, but they look OK. Any help would be appreciated.
GarryM





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#26 From: Brendon Hartmann <b_zeus_god@...>
Date: Wed Oct 6, 2004 12:19 pm
Subject:: Re: Carbs and idling
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Hi Garry,

I see your concern...the carbs do seem to be a nightmare at times..I've had
problems myself were as it would start perfect then i would try ride and  would
not get up and go till after about 5500 rpm...so my discovery which I'm sure is
going to be yours...check the choke needles and see if there is carbon build-up
around them if so use 1200 grit waterproof sand paper and clean them till they
are like goldish looking.. also so that you know make sure that the Diaphragms
rubbers have no cracks...you never mentioned how you know the carbie is OK you
sure the floats height is correct ( example 20mm +/- 1mm) and make sure that the
Pilot jet  ( 30 marked ) is not slightly blocked and the Pilot air jet is clean
too ( marked 160) on the jet the two main one's either side of the float..Note:
it wouldn't harm to actually clean the Plunger Pistons connected to Diaphragms
with 1200 grit sand paper..  also you  mentioned idling    idling screw is
between the carbs adjust so its about 1250 -1300
  rpm ...hope this is some help

Safe riding
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#25 From: "garrym_au" <garrym@...>
Date: Mon Oct 4, 2004 12:19 pm
Subject:: Carbs and idling
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I have a problem. My motor runs very well, that is as long as it's
kept above 2800 rpm. I have looked for air leaks, but not found any. I
am not a carb expert, but they look OK. Any help would be appreciated.
GarryM

#24 From: Craig Williams <rcjwilliams@...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:04 am
Subject:: Re: carbie spring
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Hi Malcom, send me your postal address and ill send
you one, iv a couple kicking about here which are
spare, no worries mate, all the best, Craig.

  --- wallacemalcolm <wallacemalcolm@...>
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Hi

I am still trying to get my 83 gs250fwd going. I have
it in a gokart.
I am currently missing a spring out of a carbie that
pushes the
diaphram up. The part is not made anymore by Suzuki, I
have
called lots of places in Melbourne but still no luck.
Any ideas??

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#23 From: "wallacemalcolm" <wallacemalcolm@...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:55 am
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Hi

I am still trying to get my 83 gs250fwd going. I have it in a gokart.
I am currently missing a spring out of a carbie that pushes the
diaphram up. The part is not made anymore by Suzuki, I have
called lots of places in Melbourne but still no luck.  Any ideas??

Malcolm

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#21 From: "mrjohnpark1" <jp@...>
Date: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:51 am
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spares in he uk.
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