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#1735 From: "james_slee112" <james.s.is@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 11:35 am
Subject:: Re: Crew Available
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Hi Everyone,

If anyone will be in need of crew for the winter races it would be great if they
could get in contact with me. I'm keen to keep getting out on the water and to
start getting into skiffing for next season.

Regards,
James

--- In sydney49ers@..., nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:
>
> James,Keep posting mate. We should be able to get you out at some point.
>
> NIgel
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:24 PM, james_slee112 <james.s.is@...>wrote:
>
> >   Hi, I'm looking to get some rides on a 49er and should be available most
> > Sundays depending on uni work.
> > I'm 70kg, about 180cm, race an MG14 on Saturdays, and have sailed Sharpies
> > and a 49er a couple of times.
> > If your looking for crew or know someone else who needs one, send me an
> > email at james.s.is@... <james.s.is%40gmail.com> or call me on
> > 0422994966.
> > Thanks,
> > James
> >
> >
> >
>

#1734 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:37 am
Subject:: (No subject)
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For those interested, there is no racing at WSC this sunday but a few of us plan on getting out for a quick sail from about 2pm.

NIgel



#1733 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:35 am
Subject:: Re: Instructions for signing up
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thx,

does anyone have an email for Graham at WSC?

Nige;



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Glen Stanaway <g_stanaway@...> wrote:

Nigel,
 
You can go to http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/sydney49ers/ which is the web interface for tis forums, and there's an instructions doc under files link.
 
i've downloaded and attached here for your reading pleasure... enjoy
 


--- On Sun, 15/3/09, nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:

From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Subject: [sydney49ers] winter racing
To: sydney49ers@...
Received: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 8:10 PM

I have been asked to put together a basic race schedule for the winter.
Any feedback ideas at this stage are welcome.

Jeremy did suggest we race on saturdays. Any views?

Nigel

PS can someone provide me with instructions for signing up to this forum so I can forward to those not using it...I know I am not very IT savy.




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#1732 From: Glen Stanaway <g_stanaway@...>
Date: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:27 am
Subject:: Instructions for signing up
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Nigel,
 
You can go to http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/sydney49ers/ which is the web interface for tis forums, and there's an instructions doc under files link.
 
i've downloaded and attached here for your reading pleasure... enjoy
 


--- On Sun, 15/3/09, nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:

From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Subject: [sydney49ers] winter racing
To: sydney49ers@...
Received: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 8:10 PM

I have been asked to put together a basic race schedule for the winter.
Any feedback ideas at this stage are welcome.

Jeremy did suggest we race on saturdays. Any views?

Nigel

PS can someone provide me with instructions for signing up to this forum so I can forward to those not using it...I know I am not very IT savy.




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#1731 From: Julian Bethwaite <julian@...>
Date: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:42 pm
Subject:: Re: in anyone out there?
julian@...
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Paul, I know some people are going to scream at me for saying this but
it costs you $750 to keep a Tasar in the rack at Northbridge.
$900 to keep a 49er fully rigging is not a big ask.

There is approx a 7 month waiting list at Northbridge, and there is not
much space here.

And the board can allow XYZ to pay half and forgo there S & F monies
year one if they know they will sail X number of races.   This is
exactly how the 16teen clubs do it, or they actually give the people a
10k grant to go get a boat, and they then pay it down.   Either way
works, just need to change the culture.

Need to get the boats in the club, active.    And I need to get the SKUD
out of here!

           JB

paul peters wrote:
>
> All good ideas and great to see folks talking about it.
>
> One issue is that it adds another level of administration trying to
> keep up with what boat has done what races etc. I would hope that
> under the new management structure, that this will be resolved because
> of far better race results management.
>
> As David points out, there is the possibility of a drop in revenue due
> to departures from the club because of the hike in storage fee's. The
> system would have to be very carefully considered, as boat storage is
> a very large part of our revenue base.
>
> In essence I like the idea though.
>
> I agree on a handicap system of some sort. The two top mark system
> appeals to me. It gives you an opportunity to get back amongst the
> leaders and work hard on say the final leg to keep them behind you.
>
> Paul
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Julian Bethwaite <mailto:julian@...>
>     *To:* sydney49ers@...
>     <mailto:sydney49ers@...>
>     *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2009 3:04 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?
>
>     Just so you understand, as I was one of the people who put this up.
>
>     Say there are 40 - 50 official sailing days a year, summer and winter
>     and Thursday nights.
>
>     Then you charge say $2000 to park your boat here (approx double
>     the std
>     rate)
>
>     What you would do then is offer start and finish money of say $50 per
>     race (that's 25 to start and 25 to finish)
>
>     Then if you did 12 summer races, 5 winter races and 6 Thursdays night
>     races and you finished all but 3 of the races,
>     then you will get (37 starts + 34 finishes ) x $25 = $ 887.50
>
>     Now I think that you need to lift the figure from 25 to say 40
>     (40+40=80 per race) so it a incentive to go sailing. People who do
>     not
>     store there boats in the club get a lesser figure, say $10 + $10 and
>     that's also fair because its the people who are storing here that are
>     supporting this system.
>
>     The reason for the start and finish money rather than per race is
>     that
>     is how the 16teens have found it important, that someone has to
>     have a
>     go at getting around. But it could be 60+20 instead of 40+40.
>
>     That's for someone else with a spreadsheet to have a go at.
>
>     Funding will come from those people who park their boats here and
>     don't
>     use them (much) and also a increase in membership, plus we can get
>     funding from seminars and all that.
>
>     The 16teen and 18eteen clubs have pokies, yes, but say RCYC (Toronto
>     Canada) dose not, they simply re-model the funding and get it more
>     from
>     corporate and members, so it very doable, they fund their juniors
>     to a
>     far greater extent.
>
>     Obviously there will be a different level for Laser who pay only
>     1/2 as
>     much for storage.
>
>     Non - club boats, probably should get nothing.
>
>     The 16teen clubs also pay championship sponsorships, so if you go
>     to the
>     worlds the club gives you say 2k. Its a nice way of doing it.
>
>     This is a very blunt instrument, once you start it, you can never
>     stop
>     it so you need to think about it carefully, but if we make the
>     club more
>     of a family institution and alter the focus, then we should get a
>     significant surge in participation.
>
>     It will also clear the dead wood out of the club, so those boats that
>     arn't used, disappear.
>
>     Julian
>
>     David Robinson wrote:
>     >
>     > With regard to increasing fees, I assume the idea is to get the
>     boats
>     > that are there sailing. Therefore the fee structure has to be
>     thought
>     > out well.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Taking a 49er as an example. The fees are say $900 pa, if these are
>     > doubled to $1800 with possible sailing refund of $900 a lot of
>     boats
>     > will be removed from the club, loosing revenue. My suggestion is to
>     > make the fees around 150% more at say $1400, with $50 reduction for
>     > every race day attended to a max of say 15 races, reducing the
>     storage
>     > fee to $650. I know we are just giving our requests and management
>     > will put them into practice.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Not sure if I agree with handicap starts, when we were really
>     > struggling a few years back, coming in last by a long way gave us a
>     > real incentive to improve. The staggered start adopted in Twilight
>     > racing, works because the boats are not one design and boat
>     speed is
>     > vastly different. But I assume it would be up to the individual
>     as to
>     > what minute to start on.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Thanks Nigel for all the effort you are putting in.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Dave
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > ----------------------------------------------------------
>     >
>     > *From:* sydney49ers@...
>     <mailto:sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>
>     > [mailto:sydney49ers@...
>     <mailto:sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *nigel
>     littlewood
>     > *Sent:* Sunday, 15 March 2009 2:36 PM
>     > *To:* sydney49ers@...
>     <mailto:sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>
>     > *Cc:* Woollahra Sailing Club
>     > *Subject:* [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > 49er sailors
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > We had a poor show from 49er sailors today at WSC. The intention
>     was
>     > to discuss ideas for our sailing schedule next season. Judging
>     by the
>     > poor show either people don't care about changing the format, don't
>     > think that getting involved will make any difference or are
>     happy with
>     > the sort of ideas I have put forward on the forum.
>     >
>     > I have had no real feedback on line so far which makes things tough
>     > for me to generate positive change.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > We did however have a meeting and had a small number of 49er
>     reps and
>     > some reps from other classes too. It was constructive and
>     worthwhile.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > There are a few clear issues that everyone agrees with. There
>     are some
>     > others that other classes did not appear to support but can be
>     adopted
>     > by 49ers if we choose. I started out on the basis of
>     representing the
>     > 49ers in terms of putting something forward to the board
>     regarding our
>     > race schedule next season (and this winter) and I am continuing in
>     > that direction.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > The general issues that all agreed with are below:
>     >
>     > 1) Longer race courses.
>     >
>     > 2) Fewer laps (2 or 3).
>     >
>     > 3) Shorter wait times between races.
>     >
>     > 4) Marathon race around the harbour perhaps a couple of times in
>     the year.
>     >
>     > 5) Start finish prize money subsidised by storage costs. This will
>     > effectively penalise those who store their boats but don't sail.
>     This
>     > may involve an increase in storage fees that will then be
>     potentially
>     > recouped by sailors. ( i suggest that for sailors, storage fees may
>     > drop). Sponsorship may also be achievable to help subsidise racers.
>     >
>     > 6) Improvement in publishing of race results (online, newspaper,
>     club
>     > board).
>     >
>     > 7) Having racing every week thru the winter but only making every
>     > second week count towards series.
>     >
>     > 8) Some sort of program that helps young sailors make the
>     transition
>     > to the adult classes. Some sort of morning practice/coaching
>     session
>     > where juniors and seniors are matched up, may work.
>     >
>     > 9) some sort of organised coaching events for the different classes.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Specific 49er issues:
>     >
>     > 1) Club championship weekends turned into full sat and sun
>     events. The
>     > other classes did not show the interest in this idea that I have
>     for
>     > 49ers. If you dont agree speak now.
>     >
>     > 2) Handicap. General view was to allocate a start time handicap
>     rather
>     > than multiple top marks (IE slow boats start earlier than faster
>     > boats). General positive attitude towards handicap component of
>     series.
>     >
>     > 3) I have had some positive feedback on holding thur night
>     racing but
>     > we have struggled to get starters in the past.
>     >
>     > 4) Split the class via new and old rigs. Not sure exactly what this
>     > would look like. Ideas welcome.
>     >
>     > 5) Pursue a specific sponsor for our various series.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > I am looking for some feedback here. If I dont get any I will push
>     > forward with a formal proposal on behalf of 49er sailors to the
>     board,
>     > around the current ideas.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Please let me know if you dont agree with any of the above or have
>     > further thoughts.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > NIgel
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
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#1730 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:01 am
Subject:: Re: Crew Available
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James,
Keep posting mate. We should be able to get you out at some point.

NIgel

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:24 PM, james_slee112 <james.s.is@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I'm looking to get some rides on a 49er and should be available most Sundays depending on uni work.
I'm 70kg, about 180cm, race an MG14 on Saturdays, and have sailed Sharpies and a 49er a couple of times.
If your looking for crew or know someone else who needs one, send me an email at james.s.is@... or call me on 0422994966.
Thanks,
James



#1729 From: "paul peters" <ppeters1@...>
Date: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:51 am
Subject:: Re: in anyone out there?
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All good ideas and great to see folks talking about it.
 
One issue is that it adds another level of administration trying to keep up with what boat has done what races etc. I would hope that under the new management structure, that this will be resolved because of far better race results management.
 
As David points out, there is the possibility of a drop in revenue due to departures from the club because of the hike in storage fee's. The system would have to be very carefully considered, as boat storage is a very large part of our revenue base.
 
In essence I like the idea though.
 
I agree on a handicap system of some sort. The two top mark system appeals to me. It gives you an opportunity to get back amongst the leaders and work hard on say the final leg to keep them behind you.
 
Paul
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?

Just so you understand, as I was one of the people who put this up.

Say there are 40 - 50 official sailing days a year, summer and winter
and Thursday nights.

Then you charge say $2000 to park your boat here (approx double the std
rate)

What you would do then is offer start and finish money of say $50 per
race (that's 25 to start and 25 to finish)

Then if you did 12 summer races, 5 winter races and 6 Thursdays night
races and you finished all but 3 of the races,
then you will get (37 starts + 34 finishes ) x $25 = $ 887.50

Now I think that you need to lift the figure from 25 to say 40
(40+40=80 per race) so it a incentive to go sailing. People who do not
store there boats in the club get a lesser figure, say $10 + $10 and
that's also fair because its the people who are storing here that are
supporting this system.

The reason for the start and finish money rather than per race is that
is how the 16teens have found it important, that someone has to have a
go at getting around. But it could be 60+20 instead of 40+40.

That's for someone else with a spreadsheet to have a go at.

Funding will come from those people who park their boats here and don't
use them (much) and also a increase in membership, plus we can get
funding from seminars and all that.

The 16teen and 18eteen clubs have pokies, yes, but say RCYC (Toronto
Canada) dose not, they simply re-model the funding and get it more from
corporate and members, so it very doable, they fund their juniors to a
far greater extent.

Obviously there will be a different level for Laser who pay only 1/2 as
much for storage.

Non - club boats, probably should get nothing.

The 16teen clubs also pay championship sponsorships, so if you go to the
worlds the club gives you say 2k. Its a nice way of doing it.

This is a very blunt instrument, once you start it, you can never stop
it so you need to think about it carefully, but if we make the club more
of a family institution and alter the focus, then we should get a
significant surge in participation.

It will also clear the dead wood out of the club, so those boats that
arn't used, disappear.

Julian

David Robinson wrote:
>
> With regard to increasing fees, I assume the idea is to get the boats
> that are there sailing. Therefore the fee structure has to be thought
> out well.
>
>
>
> Taking a 49er as an example. The fees are say $900 pa, if these are
> doubled to $1800 with possible sailing refund of $900 a lot of boats
> will be removed from the club, loosing revenue. My suggestion is to
> make the fees around 150% more at say $1400, with $50 reduction for
> every race day attended to a max of say 15 races, reducing the storage
> fee to $650. I know we are just giving our requests and management
> will put them into practice.
>
>
>
>
>
> Not sure if I agree with handicap starts, when we were really
> struggling a few years back, coming in last by a long way gave us a
> real incentive to improve. The staggered start adopted in Twilight
> racing, works because the boats are not one design and boat speed is
> vastly different. But I assume it would be up to the individual as to
> what minute to start on.
>
>
>
> Thanks Nigel for all the effort you are putting in.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* sydney49ers@yahoogroups.com.au
> [mailto:sydney49ers@yahoogroups.com.au] *On Behalf Of *nigel littlewood
> *Sent:* Sunday, 15 March 2009 2:36 PM
> *To:* sydney49ers@yahoogroups.com.au
> *Cc:* Woollahra Sailing Club
> *Subject:* [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?
>
>
>
> 49er sailors
>
>
>
> We had a poor show from 49er sailors today at WSC. The intention was
> to discuss ideas for our sailing schedule next season. Judging by the
> poor show either people don't care about changing the format, don't
> think that getting involved will make any difference or are happy with
> the sort of ideas I have put forward on the forum.
>
> I have had no real feedback on line so far which makes things tough
> for me to generate positive change.
>
>
>
> We did however have a meeting and had a small number of 49er reps and
> some reps from other classes too. It was constructive and worthwhile.
>
>
>
> There are a few clear issues that everyone agrees with. There are some
> others that other classes did not appear to support but can be adopted
> by 49ers if we choose. I started out on the basis of representing the
> 49ers in terms of putting something forward to the board regarding our
> race schedule next season (and this winter) and I am continuing in
> that direction.
>
>
>
> The general issues that all agreed with are below:
>
> 1) Longer race courses.
>
> 2) Fewer laps (2 or 3).
>
> 3) Shorter wait times between races.
>
> 4) Marathon race around the harbour perhaps a couple of times in the year.
>
> 5) Start finish prize money subsidised by storage costs. This will
> effectively penalise those who store their boats but don't sail. This
> may involve an increase in storage fees that will then be potentially
> recouped by sailors. ( i suggest that for sailors, storage fees may
> drop). Sponsorship may also be achievable to help subsidise racers.
>
> 6) Improvement in publishing of race results (online, newspaper, club
> board).
>
> 7) Having racing every week thru the winter but only making every
> second week count towards series.
>
> 8) Some sort of program that helps young sailors make the transition
> to the adult classes. Some sort of morning practice/coaching session
> where juniors and seniors are matched up, may work.
>
> 9) some sort of organised coaching events for the different classes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Specific 49er issues:
>
> 1) Club championship weekends turned into full sat and sun events. The
> other classes did not show the interest in this idea that I have for
> 49ers. If you dont agree speak now.
>
> 2) Handicap. General view was to allocate a start time handicap rather
> than multiple top marks (IE slow boats start earlier than faster
> boats). General positive attitude towards handicap component of series.
>
> 3) I have had some positive feedback on holding thur night racing but
> we have struggled to get starters in the past.
>
> 4) Split the class via new and old rigs. Not sure exactly what this
> would look like. Ideas welcome.
>
> 5) Pursue a specific sponsor for our various series.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am looking for some feedback here. If I dont get any I will push
> forward with a formal proposal on behalf of 49er sailors to the board,
> around the current ideas.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you dont agree with any of the above or have
> further thoughts.
>
>
>
> NIgel
>
>
>
>
>
>



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#1728 From: Julian Bethwaite <julian@...>
Date: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:04 am
Subject:: Re: in anyone out there?
julian@...
Send Email Send Email
 
Just so you understand, as I was one of the people who put this up.

Say there are 40 - 50 official sailing days a year, summer and winter
and Thursday nights.

Then you charge say $2000 to park your boat here (approx double the std
rate)

What you would do then is offer start and finish money of say $50 per
race (that's 25 to start and 25 to finish)

Then if you did 12 summer races, 5 winter races and 6 Thursdays night
races and you finished all but 3 of the races,
  then you will get (37 starts + 34 finishes ) x $25 = $ 887.50

Now I think that you need to lift the figure from 25 to say 40
(40+40=80 per race) so it a incentive to go sailing.   People who do not
store there boats in the club get a lesser figure, say $10 + $10 and
that's also fair because its the people who are storing here that are
supporting this system.

The reason for the start and finish money rather than per race is that
is how the 16teens have found it important, that someone has to have a
go at getting around.   But it could be 60+20 instead of 40+40.

That's for someone else with a spreadsheet to have a go at.

Funding will come from those people who park their boats here and don't
use them (much) and also a increase in membership, plus we can get
funding from seminars and all that.

The 16teen and 18eteen clubs have pokies, yes, but say RCYC (Toronto
Canada) dose not, they simply re-model the funding and get it more from
corporate and members, so it very doable,  they fund their juniors to a
far greater extent.

Obviously there will be a different level for Laser who pay  only 1/2 as
much for storage.

Non - club boats, probably should get nothing.

The 16teen clubs also pay championship sponsorships, so if you go to the
worlds the club gives you say 2k.   Its a nice way of doing it.

This is a very blunt instrument, once you start it, you can never stop
it so you need to think about it carefully, but if we make the club more
of a family institution and alter the focus, then we should get a
significant surge in participation.

It will also clear the dead wood out of the club, so those boats that
arn't used, disappear.

            Julian


David Robinson wrote:
>
> With regard to increasing fees, I assume the idea is to get the boats
> that are there sailing. Therefore the fee structure has to be thought
> out well.
>
>
>
> Taking a 49er as an example. The fees are say $900 pa, if these are
> doubled to $1800 with possible sailing refund of $900 a lot of boats
> will be removed from the club, loosing revenue. My suggestion is to
> make the fees around 150% more at say $1400, with $50 reduction for
> every race day attended to a max of say 15 races, reducing the storage
> fee to $650. I know we are just giving our requests and management
> will put them into practice.
>
>
>
>
>
> Not sure if I agree with handicap starts, when we were really
> struggling a few years back, coming in last by a long way gave us a
> real incentive to improve. The staggered start adopted in Twilight
> racing, works because the boats are not one design and boat speed is
> vastly different. But I assume it would be up to the individual as to
> what minute to start on.
>
>
>
> Thanks Nigel for all the effort you are putting in.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* sydney49ers@...
> [mailto:sydney49ers@...] *On Behalf Of *nigel littlewood
> *Sent:* Sunday, 15 March 2009 2:36 PM
> *To:* sydney49ers@...
> *Cc:* Woollahra Sailing Club
> *Subject:* [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?
>
>
>
> 49er sailors
>
>
>
> We had a poor show from 49er sailors today at WSC. The intention was
> to discuss ideas for our sailing schedule next season. Judging by the
> poor show either people don't care about changing the format, don't
> think that getting involved will make any difference or are happy with
> the sort of ideas I have put forward on the forum.
>
> I have had no real feedback on line so far which makes things tough
> for me to generate positive change.
>
>
>
> We did however have a meeting and had a small number of 49er reps and
> some reps from other classes too. It was constructive and worthwhile.
>
>
>
> There are a few clear issues that everyone agrees with. There are some
> others that other classes did not appear to support but can be adopted
> by 49ers if we choose. I started out on the basis of representing the
> 49ers in terms of putting something forward to the board regarding our
> race schedule next season (and this winter) and I am continuing in
> that direction.
>
>
>
> The general issues that all agreed with are below:
>
> 1) Longer race courses.
>
> 2) Fewer laps (2 or 3).
>
> 3) Shorter wait times between races.
>
> 4) Marathon race around the harbour perhaps a couple of times in the year.
>
> 5) Start finish prize money subsidised by storage costs. This will
> effectively penalise those who store their boats but don't sail. This
> may involve an increase in storage fees that will then be potentially
> recouped by sailors. ( i suggest that for sailors, storage fees may
> drop). Sponsorship may also be achievable to help subsidise racers.
>
> 6) Improvement in publishing of race results (online, newspaper, club
> board).
>
> 7) Having racing every week thru the winter but only making every
> second week count towards series.
>
> 8) Some sort of program that helps young sailors make the transition
> to the adult classes. Some sort of morning practice/coaching session
> where juniors and seniors are matched up, may work.
>
> 9) some sort of organised coaching events for the different classes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Specific 49er issues:
>
> 1) Club championship weekends turned into full sat and sun events. The
> other classes did not show the interest in this idea that I have for
> 49ers. If you dont agree speak now.
>
> 2) Handicap. General view was to allocate a start time handicap rather
> than multiple top marks (IE slow boats start earlier than faster
> boats).  General positive attitude towards handicap component of series.
>
> 3) I have had some positive feedback on holding thur night racing but
> we have struggled to get starters in the past.
>
> 4) Split the class via new and old rigs. Not sure exactly what this
> would look like. Ideas welcome.
>
> 5) Pursue a specific sponsor for our various series.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am looking for some feedback here. If I dont get any I will push
> forward with a formal proposal on behalf of 49er sailors to the board,
> around the current ideas.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you dont agree with any of the above or have
> further thoughts.
>
>
>
> NIgel
>
>
>
>
>
>

#1727 From: "David Robinson" <davidrob@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:43 pm
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With regard to increasing fees, I assume the idea is to get the boats that are there sailing. Therefore the fee structure has to be thought out well.

 

Taking a 49er as an example. The fees are say $900 pa, if these are doubled to $1800 with possible sailing refund of $900 a lot of boats will be removed from the club, loosing revenue. My suggestion is to make the fees around 150% more at say $1400, with $50 reduction for every race day attended to a max of say 15 races, reducing the storage fee to $650. I know we are just giving our requests and management will put them into practice.

 

 

Not sure if I agree with handicap starts, when we were really struggling a few years back, coming in last by a long way gave us a real incentive to improve. The staggered start adopted in Twilight racing, works because the boats are not one design and boat speed is vastly different. But I assume it would be up to the individual as to what minute to start on.

 

Thanks Nigel for all the effort you are putting in.

 

Dave

 

  

 


From: sydney49ers@... [mailto:sydney49ers@...] On Behalf Of nigel littlewood
Sent: Sunday, 15 March 2009 2:36 PM
To: sydney49ers@...
Cc: Woollahra Sailing Club
Subject: [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?

 

49er sailors

 

We had a poor show from 49er sailors today at WSC. The intention was to discuss ideas for our sailing schedule next season. Judging by the poor show either people don't care about changing the format, don't think that getting involved will make any difference or are happy with the sort of ideas I have put forward on the forum.

I have had no real feedback on line so far which makes things tough for me to generate positive change.

 

We did however have a meeting and had a small number of 49er reps and some reps from other classes too. It was constructive and worthwhile.

 

There are a few clear issues that everyone agrees with. There are some others that other classes did not appear to support but can be adopted by 49ers if we choose. I started out on the basis of representing the 49ers in terms of putting something forward to the board regarding our race schedule next season (and this winter) and I am continuing in that direction.

 

The general issues that all agreed with are below:

1) Longer race courses.

2) Fewer laps (2 or 3).

3) Shorter wait times between races.

4) Marathon race around the harbour perhaps a couple of times in the year.

5) Start finish prize money subsidised by storage costs. This will effectively penalise those who store their boats but don't sail. This may involve an increase in storage fees that will then be potentially recouped by sailors. ( i suggest that for sailors, storage fees may drop). Sponsorship may also be achievable to help subsidise racers. 

6) Improvement in publishing of race results (online, newspaper, club board).

7) Having racing every week thru the winter but only making every second week count towards series.

8) Some sort of program that helps young sailors make the transition to the adult classes. Some sort of morning practice/coaching session where juniors and seniors are matched up, may work.

9) some sort of organised coaching events for the different classes.

 

 

Specific 49er issues:

1) Club championship weekends turned into full sat and sun events. The other classes did not show the interest in this idea that I have for 49ers. If you dont agree speak now.

2) Handicap. General view was to allocate a start time handicap rather than multiple top marks (IE slow boats start earlier than faster boats).  General positive attitude towards handicap component of series.

3) I have had some positive feedback on holding thur night racing but we have struggled to get starters in the past.

4) Split the class via new and old rigs. Not sure exactly what this would look like. Ideas welcome.

5) Pursue a specific sponsor for our various series.

 

 

I am looking for some feedback here. If I dont get any I will push forward with a formal proposal on behalf of 49er sailors to the board, around the current ideas.

 

Please let me know if you dont agree with any of the above or have further thoughts.

 

NIgel

 

 


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Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:24 pm
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#1725 From: "james_slee112" <james.s.is@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:24 am
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Hi, I'm looking to get some rides on a 49er and should be available most Sundays
depending on uni work.
I'm 70kg, about 180cm, race an MG14 on Saturdays, and have sailed Sharpies and a
49er a couple of times.
If your looking for crew or know someone else who needs one, send me an email at
james.s.is@... or call me on 0422994966.
Thanks,
James

#1724 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:10 am
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I have been asked to put together a basic race schedule for the winter.
Any feedback ideas at this stage are welcome.

Jeremy did suggest we race on saturdays. Any views?

Nigel

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#1723 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:06 am
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Yep, an alternative maybe to have a seperate start and finish boat. That way the start guys just do starts and can be running them while other boats are finishing with another person/team recording finishing only.

May be much easier to keep the whole show turning over. 

This is something to discuss with Jeremy and other race officials.

N

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:34 PM, paul peters <ppeters1@...> wrote:

I am happy with all of that.
 
Just a thought Re: point 3 below (shorter wait times)........If we can secure more Race Volunteers to man the Bonny (our other motor boat), we could run simultaneous courses, one for dinghies and one for skiffs. The rescue boat and mark laying boats could probably manage both courses if the two courses are nearby.
 
Paul
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?

49er sailors

We had a poor show from 49er sailors today at WSC. The intention was to discuss ideas for our sailing schedule next season. Judging by the poor show either people don't care about changing the format, don't think that getting involved will make any difference or are happy with the sort of ideas I have put forward on the forum.
I have had no real feedback on line so far which makes things tough for me to generate positive change.

We did however have a meeting and had a small number of 49er reps and some reps from other classes too. It was constructive and worthwhile.

There are a few clear issues that everyone agrees with. There are some others that other classes did not appear to support but can be adopted by 49ers if we choose. I started out on the basis of representing the 49ers in terms of putting something forward to the board regarding our race schedule next season (and this winter) and I am continuing in that direction.

The general issues that all agreed with are below:
1) Longer race courses.
2) Fewer laps (2 or 3).
3) Shorter wait times between races.
4) Marathon race around the harbour perhaps a couple of times in the year.
5) Start finish prize money subsidised by storage costs. This will effectively penalise those who store their boats but don't sail. This may involve an increase in storage fees that will then be potentially recouped by sailors. ( i suggest that for sailors, storage fees may drop). Sponsorship may also be achievable to help subsidise racers. 
6) Improvement in publishing of race results (online, newspaper, club board).
7) Having racing every week thru the winter but only making every second week count towards series.
8) Some sort of program that helps young sailors make the transition to the adult classes. Some sort of morning practice/coaching session where juniors and seniors are matched up, may work.
9) some sort of organised coaching events for the different classes.


Specific 49er issues:
1) Club championship weekends turned into full sat and sun events. The other classes did not show the interest in this idea that I have for 49ers. If you dont agree speak now.
2) Handicap. General view was to allocate a start time handicap rather than multiple top marks (IE slow boats start earlier than faster boats).  General positive attitude towards handicap component of series.
3) I have had some positive feedback on holding thur night racing but we have struggled to get starters in the past.
4) Split the class via new and old rigs. Not sure exactly what this would look like. Ideas welcome.
5) Pursue a specific sponsor for our various series.


I am looking for some feedback here. If I dont get any I will push forward with a formal proposal on behalf of 49er sailors to the board, around the current ideas.

Please let me know if you dont agree with any of the above or have further thoughts.

NIgel




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#1722 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:03 am
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Good stuff.
May I suggest that the club does send out a weekly short email just summarising the weekend race results and other significant news. I think we will get more attention that way that hoping people log onto the website regularly.

Nige



On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, paul peters <ppeters1@...> wrote:

Hi Folks
 
For the most up to date news on what is taking place at the club, please visit the Woollahra Sailing Club website-
 
www.woollahrasailingclub.org.au and click on the News tab
 
There you will find the latest information about the management restructure, upcoming regattas, and all other news. There is some interesting news there right now.
 
If you wish to have something posted to the website, please forward it to sail@... .
 
The website will be updated regularly.
 
 
 
 
 
 



#1721 From: "paul peters" <ppeters1@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:49 am
Subject:: Re: update
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Hi Folks
 
For the most up to date news on what is taking place at the club, please visit the Woollahra Sailing Club website-
 
www.woollahrasailingclub.org.au and click on the News tab
 
There you will find the latest information about the management restructure, upcoming regattas, and all other news. There is some interesting news there right now.
 
If you wish to have something posted to the website, please forward it to sail@... .
 
The website will be updated regularly.
 
 
 
 
 
 

#1720 From: "paul peters" <ppeters1@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:34 am
Subject:: Re: in anyone out there?
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I am happy with all of that.
 
Just a thought Re: point 3 below (shorter wait times)........If we can secure more Race Volunteers to man the Bonny (our other motor boat), we could run simultaneous courses, one for dinghies and one for skiffs. The rescue boat and mark laying boats could probably manage both courses if the two courses are nearby.
 
Paul
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:36 PM
Subject: [sydney49ers] in anyone out there?

49er sailors

We had a poor show from 49er sailors today at WSC. The intention was to discuss ideas for our sailing schedule next season. Judging by the poor show either people don't care about changing the format, don't think that getting involved will make any difference or are happy with the sort of ideas I have put forward on the forum.
I have had no real feedback on line so far which makes things tough for me to generate positive change.

We did however have a meeting and had a small number of 49er reps and some reps from other classes too. It was constructive and worthwhile.

There are a few clear issues that everyone agrees with. There are some others that other classes did not appear to support but can be adopted by 49ers if we choose. I started out on the basis of representing the 49ers in terms of putting something forward to the board regarding our race schedule next season (and this winter) and I am continuing in that direction.

The general issues that all agreed with are below:
1) Longer race courses.
2) Fewer laps (2 or 3).
3) Shorter wait times between races.
4) Marathon race around the harbour perhaps a couple of times in the year.
5) Start finish prize money subsidised by storage costs. This will effectively penalise those who store their boats but don't sail. This may involve an increase in storage fees that will then be potentially recouped by sailors. ( i suggest that for sailors, storage fees may drop). Sponsorship may also be achievable to help subsidise racers. 
6) Improvement in publishing of race results (online, newspaper, club board).
7) Having racing every week thru the winter but only making every second week count towards series.
8) Some sort of program that helps young sailors make the transition to the adult classes. Some sort of morning practice/coaching session where juniors and seniors are matched up, may work.
9) some sort of organised coaching events for the different classes.


Specific 49er issues:
1) Club championship weekends turned into full sat and sun events. The other classes did not show the interest in this idea that I have for 49ers. If you dont agree speak now.
2) Handicap. General view was to allocate a start time handicap rather than multiple top marks (IE slow boats start earlier than faster boats).  General positive attitude towards handicap component of series.
3) I have had some positive feedback on holding thur night racing but we have struggled to get starters in the past.
4) Split the class via new and old rigs. Not sure exactly what this would look like. Ideas welcome.
5) Pursue a specific sponsor for our various series.


I am looking for some feedback here. If I dont get any I will push forward with a formal proposal on behalf of 49er sailors to the board, around the current ideas.

Please let me know if you dont agree with any of the above or have further thoughts.

NIgel




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#1719 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:36 am
Subject:: in anyone out there?
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49er sailors

We had a poor show from 49er sailors today at WSC. The intention was to discuss ideas for our sailing schedule next season. Judging by the poor show either people don't care about changing the format, don't think that getting involved will make any difference or are happy with the sort of ideas I have put forward on the forum.
I have had no real feedback on line so far which makes things tough for me to generate positive change.

We did however have a meeting and had a small number of 49er reps and some reps from other classes too. It was constructive and worthwhile.

There are a few clear issues that everyone agrees with. There are some others that other classes did not appear to support but can be adopted by 49ers if we choose. I started out on the basis of representing the 49ers in terms of putting something forward to the board regarding our race schedule next season (and this winter) and I am continuing in that direction.

The general issues that all agreed with are below:
1) Longer race courses.
2) Fewer laps (2 or 3).
3) Shorter wait times between races.
4) Marathon race around the harbour perhaps a couple of times in the year.
5) Start finish prize money subsidised by storage costs. This will effectively penalise those who store their boats but don't sail. This may involve an increase in storage fees that will then be potentially recouped by sailors. ( i suggest that for sailors, storage fees may drop). Sponsorship may also be achievable to help subsidise racers. 
6) Improvement in publishing of race results (online, newspaper, club board).
7) Having racing every week thru the winter but only making every second week count towards series.
8) Some sort of program that helps young sailors make the transition to the adult classes. Some sort of morning practice/coaching session where juniors and seniors are matched up, may work.
9) some sort of organised coaching events for the different classes.


Specific 49er issues:
1) Club championship weekends turned into full sat and sun events. The other classes did not show the interest in this idea that I have for 49ers. If you dont agree speak now.
2) Handicap. General view was to allocate a start time handicap rather than multiple top marks (IE slow boats start earlier than faster boats).  General positive attitude towards handicap component of series.
3) I have had some positive feedback on holding thur night racing but we have struggled to get starters in the past.
4) Split the class via new and old rigs. Not sure exactly what this would look like. Ideas welcome.
5) Pursue a specific sponsor for our various series.


I am looking for some feedback here. If I dont get any I will push forward with a formal proposal on behalf of 49er sailors to the board, around the current ideas.

Please let me know if you dont agree with any of the above or have further thoughts.

NIgel



#1718 From: "David Robinson" <davidrob@...>
Date: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:56 pm
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Found out last night that I have to take my son to Library on Sunday morning which opens at 10am, so will miss meeting or at best me late.

 

Sorry

Dave Robinson

 


From: sydney49ers@... [mailto:sydney49ers@...] On Behalf Of nigel littlewood
Sent: Saturday, 14 March 2009 8:30 AM
To: sydney49ers@...
Subject: [sydney49ers]

 

Just a reminder team that we are having a sailors meeting tomorrow at WSC at 10.30am.

 

Its been too long since the sailors at the club participated in the sailing program. Bring along your ideas and we should be able to form a basic structure for sailing next season (and this winter).

 

Nigel


#1717 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:30 pm
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Just a reminder team that we are having a sailors meeting tomorrow at WSC at 10.30am.

Its been too long since the sailors at the club participated in the sailing program. Bring along your ideas and we should be able to form a basic structure for sailing next season (and this winter).

Nigel

#1716 From: Michael O'Shea <mikeoshea@...>
Date: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:24 pm
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#1715 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Sun Mar 8, 2009 9:41 pm
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Mate,
This coming weekend is a write off. I am looking after my daughter all weekend. It will have to be the following week.

Nige



On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Nick Schmidt <nicholas.d.schmidt@...> wrote:

Nigel

I'm on 0409 036 660. Nothing planned this weekend so maybe go for a sail sat morning (14th)?

Regards



Nick

--- In sydney49ers@..., nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:
>
> Nick,I am available all day now.
>
> I am happy to give you some coaching late morning if you like. I can do the
> race with you too if you want. I am not that fit but can crew and help you
> get up to speed.
>
> What is your ph number?
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Nick Schmidt <nicholas.d.schmidt@...

> > wrote:
>
> > Gday Nigel
> >
> > Sorry I've been away and didn't check the mail. I can do Sunday morning if
> > you haven't
> > made other plans. I'll head down to the club anyway and go over the boat at
> > about 9:00.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In sydney49ers@... <sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
> > nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK mate.Do u want to do Next sat or sun morning. We could go out
> > together, I
> > > can crew and you can helm and I can just coach that way if you want.
> > >
> > > N
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nick Schmidt
> > > <nicholas.d.schmidt@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well I am definitely keen to get some basic training on how to drive my
> > > > boat. As you know
> > > > I have only crewed on the 49er with John. John has been busy doing a
> > law
> > > > degree and not
> > > > available. I would dearly like to get AUS157 back on the water.
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In sydney49ers@...<sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au><sydney49ers%

> > 40yahoogroups.com.au>,
> > > > nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday saw quite a good turn out with the FKP boys back racing
> > after a
> > > > > noticeable absence. Pity their fitness let them down and they went
> > home
> > > > > after the second race :)Despite a pretty light difficult easterly we
> > had
> > > > > some good racing amongst the 5 boats.
> > > > >
> > > > > STATES
> > > > > This coming weekend is the final weekend of the state titles at Lake
> > > > > Macquarie. At the moment it looks like 9 boats. Anyone thinking about
> > > > coming
> > > > > should make the effort, its a great place to sail and a weekend out
> > of
> > > > > sydney is always a good thing.
> > > > > The long range wind forecast at this point looks positive so please
> > make
> > > > the
> > > > > effort and get out on the water.
> > > > >
> > > > > COACHING
> > > > > Last week Nathan Outteridge came down and did some 49er coaching at
> > the
> > > > > club. I did some filming from the coach boat and made a dvd available
> > to
> > > > > Dave and Cam afterwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > For anyone wanting to improve I believe coaching is the best way to
> > fast
> > > > > track the learning process. Most of us are not gifted enough to learn
> > > > simply
> > > > > by going out without instruction.
> > > > > If anyone is interested in having some coaching, I am available to
> > help
> > > > > novices improve basic technique, if a more elite standard is
> > required,
> > > > > Nathan is available too.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are different ways of doing things to help including filming
> > and
> > > > > having coaching from on your boat and from a coach boat. Anyone who
> > is
> > > > > interested please call me (0414 585 070) to discuss and I am sure it
> > will
> > > > > help bring things along faster.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a lot to sailing a 49er well, and it takes time for this to
> > soak
> > > > in
> > > > > but experienced coaching I believe does accelerate the process.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am preparing a brief on rig setting for those not sure of the basic
> > > > > principles. I still find a few guys going out with (very) wrong rig
> > > > settings
> > > > > and this makes a 49er more difficult to sail and obviously slower.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nige ph 0414585070
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>



#1714 From: "Nick Schmidt" <nicholas.d.schmidt@...>
Date: Sun Mar 8, 2009 9:46 am
Subject:: Re: (unknown)
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Nigel

I'm on 0409 036 660. Nothing planned this weekend so maybe go for a sail sat
morning (14th)?

Regards

Nick

--- In sydney49ers@..., nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:
>
> Nick,I am available all day now.
>
> I am happy to give you some coaching late morning if you like. I can do the
> race with you too if you want. I am not that fit but can crew and help you
> get up to speed.
>
> What is your ph number?
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Nick Schmidt <nicholas.d.schmidt@...
> > wrote:
>
> >   Gday Nigel
> >
> > Sorry I've been away and didn't check the mail. I can do Sunday morning if
> > you haven't
> > made other plans. I'll head down to the club anyway and go over the boat at
> > about 9:00.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In sydney49ers@... <sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
> > nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK mate.Do u want to do Next sat or sun morning. We could go out
> > together, I
> > > can crew and you can helm and I can just coach that way if you want.
> > >
> > > N
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nick Schmidt
> > > <nicholas.d.schmidt@>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well I am definitely keen to get some basic training on how to drive my
> > > > boat. As you know
> > > > I have only crewed on the 49er with John. John has been busy doing a
> > law
> > > > degree and not
> > > > available. I would dearly like to get AUS157 back on the water.
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > > --- In
sydney49ers@...<sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au><sydney49ers%
> > 40yahoogroups.com.au>,
> > > > nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday saw quite a good turn out with the FKP boys back racing
> > after a
> > > > > noticeable absence. Pity their fitness let them down and they went
> > home
> > > > > after the second race :)Despite a pretty light difficult easterly we
> > had
> > > > > some good racing amongst the 5 boats.
> > > > >
> > > > > STATES
> > > > > This coming weekend is the final weekend of the state titles at Lake
> > > > > Macquarie. At the moment it looks like 9 boats. Anyone thinking about
> > > > coming
> > > > > should make the effort, its a great place to sail and a weekend out
> > of
> > > > > sydney is always a good thing.
> > > > > The long range wind forecast at this point looks positive so please
> > make
> > > > the
> > > > > effort and get out on the water.
> > > > >
> > > > > COACHING
> > > > > Last week Nathan Outteridge came down and did some 49er coaching at
> > the
> > > > > club. I did some filming from the coach boat and made a dvd available
> > to
> > > > > Dave and Cam afterwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > For anyone wanting to improve I believe coaching is the best way to
> > fast
> > > > > track the learning process. Most of us are not gifted enough to learn
> > > > simply
> > > > > by going out without instruction.
> > > > > If anyone is interested in having some coaching, I am available to
> > help
> > > > > novices improve basic technique, if a more elite standard is
> > required,
> > > > > Nathan is available too.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are different ways of doing things to help including filming
> > and
> > > > > having coaching from on your boat and from a coach boat. Anyone who
> > is
> > > > > interested please call me (0414 585 070) to discuss and I am sure it
> > will
> > > > > help bring things along faster.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a lot to sailing a 49er well, and it takes time for this to
> > soak
> > > > in
> > > > > but experienced coaching I believe does accelerate the process.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am preparing a brief on rig setting for those not sure of the basic
> > > > > principles. I still find a few guys going out with (very) wrong rig
> > > > settings
> > > > > and this makes a 49er more difficult to sail and obviously slower.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nige ph 0414585070
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

#1713 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Sun Mar 8, 2009 8:38 am
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good feedback thx mate.
If we diid our sunday (club champ) racing earlier it could provide the opportunity for 18ft skiff guys to do both sessions. Big day but some of them are young and dumb and have plenty of ...


NIge

 

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Brent Kincade <brent_firetail2@...> wrote:

Hello Nigel,

I feel you're on the right track there and the area's you are targeting will make things alot easier. I think also having the top guys down there racing will attract more people to making the time coming down. For instance the idea of running some club championship regatta's based over a weekend is a great idea. We would try make our way down once or twice at least later in the year. What are the main areas in all your 49er sailing experience that keeps people away from the water? surely not everyone blames it on the 'commit to sunday's' thing? I think the idea of having multiple marks is good too, I mean if the guys are behind and they round the closer mark in front it gives something for the better guys who are behind to work to- toward the finish and perhaps when those boats finish infront, they step upto the 'gold' fleet. I find the old sausage sizzle goes down well for everyone- as well as burgers... I know most clubs start racing at 1pm but I think this is too late- 10.30 briefings and about 11.30 starts are good (don't know about the weather conditions in sydney however). If you organise amongst the fleet to be rigged by 10.30 maybe guys like Nathan, Euon, Emmett or Darren Or whoever for that matter can go around to the new guys and talk to the guys about their boats, setup, drills and etc... I really believe alot of people think 1-4.30 etc... is hardly worth the effort to pack the boat, rig the boat, drive down to the club, traffic and whatever. I think the 49er class is a great base platform for a social fleet- also rigging together on the rigging area's. However I think for alot of people on the outside they just see the boats get packed up and drive out of there- no-one hangs around, no one wants to go straight home to their wives do they??? or is it an ultimatum before you leave that 'sat or sun' morning. I find I usually hang around about 1.5-3 hours after sailing/de-rigging. It's surprising what one small tip does for someone out on the water. Planning formal training days/weekends is a great one too as well as the idea of twilight racing- perhaps a weekday series? 

That's what I think works in Sailing anyway- I'm sure other people have opinions but just thought I might say what my thoughts were so you had another few things for the meeting. Also who is in charge of the website etc... Hasn't been updated for a while, but I also haven't visited for a couple weeks also. I think things like websites, pics, videos etc. are an important part on the success of any classes around today. It shows we have an active fleet (especially in WA as it appears) and regular updates keep sailors knowing we have got racing. Perhaps a Calender for reps from all fleets can email regatta/racing dates and have them posted up for other sailors from other clubs/states/regions can plan their seasons. Work together with the 29er Association to groom new potential 49er crews- as well as other skiff classes (younger sailors). This season I am hoping to be back on the water in april and target the kids (16-22) Looking for new classes to sail. I don't know how competitive any of the crews are or how far any of them are from going away racing interstate but It would be nice to have a fleet of boats travelling in the future. Well good racing everyone, Congratulations on the states Nige and hopefully get to catch you guys down there sometime this year.

Brent


To: sydney49ers@...
From: nlittlewood@...
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:40:46 +1100
Subject: [sydney49ers] update

Hi All,
Next Sunday (15th) there will a 49er class meeting at WSC at 10.30am to discuss the future format of club racing. Other classes will also attend to discuss club issues before moving onto class specific issues. Please make the effort to come along.

With the restructuring of WSC management there is a great opportunity for the sailors to provide clear feedback to the club officials around how they would like to see racing formats change (or not). We have an opportunity to customise next season's sailing.

I believe our clear objectives should be:
1) Maximise the number of boats sailing
2) Maximise the amount of racing we can fit into a day. The time spent between racing has been an ongoing frustration. This is not a function of an inefficient race committee but rather the number of classes and nature of the racing we do. IE work load.
 3) Encourage new entrants to our class and club.
4) Grow the community environment at the club by encouraging people to "hang around" on a social level.

There may be more:

Following are some suggestions that I believe should be considered in formatting next summer's (and this winter's) racing timetable.

1) Feedback has been generally that people find it hard to commit to every sunday. Therefore we have this problem of not cordinating our sailing days which leads to weak fleets and weak racing. Therefore I suggest we transform our club championship sundays to full weekend mini regattas. Perhaps 5 over the whole season. I am hoping that our elite sailors like Nathan, Darren, Dave and Euwen will do these mini regattas.
2) We run a series within the club championship with a handicap component. There are various potential formats but the best it seems to me is to have several (2-3) upwind marks so each lap the slower boats have the opportunity to catch the faster boats keeping the fleet tight while keeping a normal start format.
3) Secure a sponsor that provides some benefit to all participating sailors rather than just winners.
4) Secure a financial commitment from the club that channels some of the money we pay for storage and membership back to the people who are actually sailing (IE start-finish bonus).
5) Regular coaching sessions for new class participants. I am in a position to help with these.
6) 1 or 2 trips to lake macquarie over the season. Its a great place to sail.
7) Regular open days where we invite interested people to come for a sail. These are easy and critical to introduce our great boat to new people.
8) Flexible start times during mini regattas to avoid the problem of racing in the peak of a black nor easter. 
9) One round the hbr marathon event each year.
10) Longer courses. Not always possible but the very short (in rose bay) courses are not ideal for 49ers.
11) The introduction of 505 style rabbit starts. While this still requires a finish boat it takes away the need for a formal start process and takes the load off the starting comittee and reduces dependency on other classes finishing/starting etc.
12) The serious pursuit of twilight racing. This is very strong in yachts, If we can get at least three boats showing up each week we can probably build from there.
13) Introduction of two class system, most clubbies wont go for the new rigs at this point so we will have to split the results which will be good given the big difference in boats and standards between the elite sailors and clubbies. I strongly believe we need to focus on the 49er as a club boat not as an olympic class if we want to grow participation at WSC.
These are just a few ideas for discussion please give this some thought and either reply via email or just bring along on Sunday week.

We have a great opportunity to create a format for the sailors but this will only work with some input. NOW is the time to put your hand up and provide a  view. 

NATIONALS
There is no firm time or place for the nationals next year. While Adelaide has been muted I think its pointless going somewhere there are no boats.
I am all for having them before SIRS in Sydney or Lake Macquaire before they go back to Perth in (I think) two years time. Feedback welcome.

THIS WEEKEND
There will be racing this weekend. Let's make the most of what's left of the summer. Winds have dropped off a bit so getting blown out is unlikely and the racing has been great. SO GET OUT THERE!

STATES
I was lucky enough to win the states despite some better sailors showing up for some of the days. Just goes to show, sometimes just showing up is enough.
Ben Austin dumped me after the first weekend after getting the olympic call up from cat legend Darren Bundock. Long live the dream guys. It looks like the Australian 49er place for the next games may be well contested which would be good for all.
The racing was terrific particularly up on Lake Macquarie. Those who did not come along really missed out on a great weekend.

Thanks to Zhek for sponsoring the event. I am going to put more effort into securing further sponsors for our events next year.



Nige



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#1712 From: Brent Kincade <brent_firetail2@...>
Date: Sun Mar 8, 2009 7:49 am
Subject:: RE: update
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Hello Nigel,
I feel you're on the right track there and the area's you are targeting will make things alot easier. I think also having the top guys down there racing will attract more people to making the time coming down. For instance the idea of running some club championship regatta's based over a weekend is a great idea. We would try make our way down once or twice at least later in the year. What are the main areas in all your 49er sailing experience that keeps people away from the water? surely not everyone blames it on the 'commit to sunday's' thing? I think the idea of having multiple marks is good too, I mean if the guys are behind and they round the closer mark in front it gives something for the better guys who are behind to work to- toward the finish and perhaps when those boats finish infront, they step upto the 'gold' fleet. I find the old sausage sizzle goes down well for everyone- as well as burgers... I know most clubs start racing at 1pm but I think this is too late- 10.30 briefings and about 11.30 starts are good (don't know about the weather conditions in sydney however). If you organise amongst the fleet to be rigged by 10.30 maybe guys like Nathan, Euon, Emmett or Darren Or whoever for that matter can go around to the new guys and talk to the guys about their boats, setup, drills and etc... I really believe alot of people think 1-4.30 etc... is hardly worth the effort to pack the boat, rig the boat, drive down to the club, traffic and whatever. I think the 49er class is a great base platform for a social fleet- also rigging together on the rigging area's. However I think for alot of people on the outside they just see the boats get packed up and drive out of there- no-one hangs around, no one wants to go straight home to their wives do they??? or is it an ultimatum before you leave that 'sat or sun' morning. I find I usually hang around about 1.5-3 hours after sailing/de-rigging. It's surprising what one small tip does for someone out on the water. Planning formal training days/weekends is a great one too as well as the idea of twilight racing- perhaps a weekday series? 

That's what I think works in Sailing anyway- I'm sure other people have opinions but just thought I might say what my thoughts were so you had another few things for the meeting. Also who is in charge of the website etc... Hasn't been updated for a while, but I also haven't visited for a couple weeks also. I think things like websites, pics, videos etc. are an important part on the success of any classes around today. It shows we have an active fleet (especially in WA as it appears) and regular updates keep sailors knowing we have got racing. Perhaps a Calender for reps from all fleets can email regatta/racing dates and have them posted up for other sailors from other clubs/states/regions can plan their seasons. Work together with the 29er Association to groom new potential 49er crews- as well as other skiff classes (younger sailors). This season I am hoping to be back on the water in april and target the kids (16-22) Looking for new classes to sail. I don't know how competitive any of the crews are or how far any of them are from going away racing interstate but It would be nice to have a fleet of boats travelling in the future. Well good racing everyone, Congratulations on the states Nige and hopefully get to catch you guys down there sometime this year.

Brent


To: sydney49ers@...
From: nlittlewood@...
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:40:46 +1100
Subject: [sydney49ers] update

Hi All,
Next Sunday (15th) there will a 49er class meeting at WSC at 10.30am to discuss the future format of club racing. Other classes will also attend to discuss club issues before moving onto class specific issues. Please make the effort to come along.

With the restructuring of WSC management there is a great opportunity for the sailors to provide clear feedback to the club officials around how they would like to see racing formats change (or not). We have an opportunity to customise next season's sailing.

I believe our clear objectives should be:
1) Maximise the number of boats sailing
2) Maximise the amount of racing we can fit into a day. The time spent between racing has been an ongoing frustration. This is not a function of an inefficient race committee but rather the number of classes and nature of the racing we do. IE work load.
 3) Encourage new entrants to our class and club.
4) Grow the community environment at the club by encouraging people to "hang around" on a social level.

There may be more:

Following are some suggestions that I believe should be considered in formatting next summer's (and this winter's) racing timetable.

1) Feedback has been generally that people find it hard to commit to every sunday. Therefore we have this problem of not cordinating our sailing days which leads to weak fleets and weak racing. Therefore I suggest we transform our club championship sundays to full weekend mini regattas. Perhaps 5 over the whole season. I am hoping that our elite sailors like Nathan, Darren, Dave and Euwen will do these mini regattas.
2) We run a series within the club championship with a handicap component. There are various potential formats but the best it seems to me is to have several (2-3) upwind marks so each lap the slower boats have the opportunity to catch the faster boats keeping the fleet tight while keeping a normal start format.
3) Secure a sponsor that provides some benefit to all participating sailors rather than just winners.
4) Secure a financial commitment from the club that channels some of the money we pay for storage and membership back to the people who are actually sailing (IE start-finish bonus).
5) Regular coaching sessions for new class participants. I am in a position to help with these.
6) 1 or 2 trips to lake macquarie over the season. Its a great place to sail.
7) Regular open days where we invite interested people to come for a sail. These are easy and critical to introduce our great boat to new people.
8) Flexible start times during mini regattas to avoid the problem of racing in the peak of a black nor easter. 
9) One round the hbr marathon event each year.
10) Longer courses. Not always possible but the very short (in rose bay) courses are not ideal for 49ers.
11) The introduction of 505 style rabbit starts. While this still requires a finish boat it takes away the need for a formal start process and takes the load off the starting comittee and reduces dependency on other classes finishing/starting etc.
12) The serious pursuit of twilight racing. This is very strong in yachts, If we can get at least three boats showing up each week we can probably build from there.
13) Introduction of two class system, most clubbies wont go for the new rigs at this point so we will have to split the results which will be good given the big difference in boats and standards between the elite sailors and clubbies. I strongly believe we need to focus on the 49er as a club boat not as an olympic class if we want to grow participation at WSC.
These are just a few ideas for discussion please give this some thought and either reply via email or just bring along on Sunday week.

We have a great opportunity to create a format for the sailors but this will only work with some input. NOW is the time to put your hand up and provide a  view. 

NATIONALS
There is no firm time or place for the nationals next year. While Adelaide has been muted I think its pointless going somewhere there are no boats.
I am all for having them before SIRS in Sydney or Lake Macquaire before they go back to Perth in (I think) two years time. Feedback welcome.

THIS WEEKEND
There will be racing this weekend. Let's make the most of what's left of the summer. Winds have dropped off a bit so getting blown out is unlikely and the racing has been great. SO GET OUT THERE!

STATES
I was lucky enough to win the states despite some better sailors showing up for some of the days. Just goes to show, sometimes just showing up is enough.
Ben Austin dumped me after the first weekend after getting the olympic call up from cat legend Darren Bundock. Long live the dream guys. It looks like the Australian 49er place for the next games may be well contested which would be good for all.
The racing was terrific particularly up on Lake Macquarie. Those who did not come along really missed out on a great weekend.

Thanks to Zhek for sponsoring the event. I am going to put more effort into securing further sponsors for our events next year.



Nige



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#1711 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Sat Mar 7, 2009 9:48 pm
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I have misplaced a set of spinaker sheets (yellow). I think I lost them when packing the boat up for Belmont.
If anyone found them, can I have them back?

Nigel



#1710 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Fri Mar 6, 2009 2:36 am
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At this point in time I may need a crew for Sunday. Who is available?

Nige

 

#1709 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Thu Mar 5, 2009 9:44 pm
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Nick,
Can u call me at a time that suits you?

NIgel
0414585070


On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Nick Schmidt <nicholas.d.schmidt@...> wrote:

Gday Nigel

Sorry I've been away and didn't check the mail. I can do Sunday morning if you haven't
made other plans. I'll head down to the club anyway and go over the boat at about 9:00.

Nick

--- In sydney49ers@..., nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:
>
> OK mate.Do u want to do Next sat or sun morning. We could go out together, I
> can crew and you can helm and I can just coach that way if you want.
>
> N
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nick Schmidt
> <nicholas.d.schmidt@...>wrote:
>
> > Well I am definitely keen to get some basic training on how to drive my
> > boat. As you know
> > I have only crewed on the 49er with John. John has been busy doing a law
> > degree and not
> > available. I would dearly like to get AUS157 back on the water.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In sydney49ers@... <sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
> > nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yesterday saw quite a good turn out with the FKP boys back racing after a
> > > noticeable absence. Pity their fitness let them down and they went home
> > > after the second race :)Despite a pretty light difficult easterly we had
> > > some good racing amongst the 5 boats.
> > >
> > > STATES
> > > This coming weekend is the final weekend of the state titles at Lake
> > > Macquarie. At the moment it looks like 9 boats. Anyone thinking about
> > coming
> > > should make the effort, its a great place to sail and a weekend out of
> > > sydney is always a good thing.
> > > The long range wind forecast at this point looks positive so please make
> > the
> > > effort and get out on the water.
> > >
> > > COACHING
> > > Last week Nathan Outteridge came down and did some 49er coaching at the
> > > club. I did some filming from the coach boat and made a dvd available to
> > > Dave and Cam afterwards.
> > >
> > > For anyone wanting to improve I believe coaching is the best way to fast
> > > track the learning process. Most of us are not gifted enough to learn
> > simply
> > > by going out without instruction.
> > > If anyone is interested in having some coaching, I am available to help
> > > novices improve basic technique, if a more elite standard is required,
> > > Nathan is available too.
> > >
> > > There are different ways of doing things to help including filming and
> > > having coaching from on your boat and from a coach boat. Anyone who is
> > > interested please call me (0414 585 070) to discuss and I am sure it will
> > > help bring things along faster.
> > >
> > > There is a lot to sailing a 49er well, and it takes time for this to soak
> > in
> > > but experienced coaching I believe does accelerate the process.
> > >
> > > I am preparing a brief on rig setting for those not sure of the basic
> > > principles. I still find a few guys going out with (very) wrong rig
> > settings
> > > and this makes a 49er more difficult to sail and obviously slower.
> > >
> > > Nige ph 0414585070
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>



#1708 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Thu Mar 5, 2009 9:40 pm
Subject:: update
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Hi All,
Next Sunday (15th) there will a 49er class meeting at WSC at 10.30am to discuss the future format of club racing. Other classes will also attend to discuss club issues before moving onto class specific issues. Please make the effort to come along.

With the restructuring of WSC management there is a great opportunity for the sailors to provide clear feedback to the club officials around how they would like to see racing formats change (or not). We have an opportunity to customise next season's sailing.

I believe our clear objectives should be:
1) Maximise the number of boats sailing
2) Maximise the amount of racing we can fit into a day. The time spent between racing has been an ongoing frustration. This is not a function of an inefficient race committee but rather the number of classes and nature of the racing we do. IE work load.
 3) Encourage new entrants to our class and club.
4) Grow the community environment at the club by encouraging people to "hang around" on a social level.

There may be more:

Following are some suggestions that I believe should be considered in formatting next summer's (and this winter's) racing timetable.

1) Feedback has been generally that people find it hard to commit to every sunday. Therefore we have this problem of not cordinating our sailing days which leads to weak fleets and weak racing. Therefore I suggest we transform our club championship sundays to full weekend mini regattas. Perhaps 5 over the whole season. I am hoping that our elite sailors like Nathan, Darren, Dave and Euwen will do these mini regattas.
2) We run a series within the club championship with a handicap component. There are various potential formats but the best it seems to me is to have several (2-3) upwind marks so each lap the slower boats have the opportunity to catch the faster boats keeping the fleet tight while keeping a normal start format.
3) Secure a sponsor that provides some benefit to all participating sailors rather than just winners.
4) Secure a financial commitment from the club that channels some of the money we pay for storage and membership back to the people who are actually sailing (IE start-finish bonus).
5) Regular coaching sessions for new class participants. I am in a position to help with these.
6) 1 or 2 trips to lake macquarie over the season. Its a great place to sail.
7) Regular open days where we invite interested people to come for a sail. These are easy and critical to introduce our great boat to new people.
8) Flexible start times during mini regattas to avoid the problem of racing in the peak of a black nor easter. 
9) One round the hbr marathon event each year.
10) Longer courses. Not always possible but the very short (in rose bay) courses are not ideal for 49ers.
11) The introduction of 505 style rabbit starts. While this still requires a finish boat it takes away the need for a formal start process and takes the load off the starting comittee and reduces dependency on other classes finishing/starting etc.
12) The serious pursuit of twilight racing. This is very strong in yachts, If we can get at least three boats showing up each week we can probably build from there.
13) Introduction of two class system, most clubbies wont go for the new rigs at this point so we will have to split the results which will be good given the big difference in boats and standards between the elite sailors and clubbies. I strongly believe we need to focus on the 49er as a club boat not as an olympic class if we want to grow participation at WSC.
These are just a few ideas for discussion please give this some thought and either reply via email or just bring along on Sunday week.

We have a great opportunity to create a format for the sailors but this will only work with some input. NOW is the time to put your hand up and provide a  view. 

NATIONALS
There is no firm time or place for the nationals next year. While Adelaide has been muted I think its pointless going somewhere there are no boats.
I am all for having them before SIRS in Sydney or Lake Macquaire before they go back to Perth in (I think) two years time. Feedback welcome.

THIS WEEKEND
There will be racing this weekend. Let's make the most of what's left of the summer. Winds have dropped off a bit so getting blown out is unlikely and the racing has been great. SO GET OUT THERE!

STATES
I was lucky enough to win the states despite some better sailors showing up for some of the days. Just goes to show, sometimes just showing up is enough.
Ben Austin dumped me after the first weekend after getting the olympic call up from cat legend Darren Bundock. Long live the dream guys. It looks like the Australian 49er place for the next games may be well contested which would be good for all.
The racing was terrific particularly up on Lake Macquarie. Those who did not come along really missed out on a great weekend.

Thanks to Zhek for sponsoring the event. I am going to put more effort into securing further sponsors for our events next year.



Nige

#1707 From: nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...>
Date: Thu Mar 5, 2009 7:02 am
Subject:: Re: Re: (unknown)
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Nick,
I am available all day now.

I am happy to give you some coaching late morning if you like. I can do the race with you too if you want. I am not that fit but can crew and help you get up to speed.

What is your ph number?


Nigel



On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Nick Schmidt <nicholas.d.schmidt@...> wrote:

Gday Nigel

Sorry I've been away and didn't check the mail. I can do Sunday morning if you haven't
made other plans. I'll head down to the club anyway and go over the boat at about 9:00.

Nick

--- In sydney49ers@..., nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:
>
> OK mate.Do u want to do Next sat or sun morning. We could go out together, I
> can crew and you can helm and I can just coach that way if you want.
>
> N
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nick Schmidt
> <nicholas.d.schmidt@...>wrote:
>
> > Well I am definitely keen to get some basic training on how to drive my
> > boat. As you know
> > I have only crewed on the 49er with John. John has been busy doing a law
> > degree and not
> > available. I would dearly like to get AUS157 back on the water.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In sydney49ers@... <sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
> > nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yesterday saw quite a good turn out with the FKP boys back racing after a
> > > noticeable absence. Pity their fitness let them down and they went home
> > > after the second race :)Despite a pretty light difficult easterly we had
> > > some good racing amongst the 5 boats.
> > >
> > > STATES
> > > This coming weekend is the final weekend of the state titles at Lake
> > > Macquarie. At the moment it looks like 9 boats. Anyone thinking about
> > coming
> > > should make the effort, its a great place to sail and a weekend out of
> > > sydney is always a good thing.
> > > The long range wind forecast at this point looks positive so please make
> > the
> > > effort and get out on the water.
> > >
> > > COACHING
> > > Last week Nathan Outteridge came down and did some 49er coaching at the
> > > club. I did some filming from the coach boat and made a dvd available to
> > > Dave and Cam afterwards.
> > >
> > > For anyone wanting to improve I believe coaching is the best way to fast
> > > track the learning process. Most of us are not gifted enough to learn
> > simply
> > > by going out without instruction.
> > > If anyone is interested in having some coaching, I am available to help
> > > novices improve basic technique, if a more elite standard is required,
> > > Nathan is available too.
> > >
> > > There are different ways of doing things to help including filming and
> > > having coaching from on your boat and from a coach boat. Anyone who is
> > > interested please call me (0414 585 070) to discuss and I am sure it will
> > > help bring things along faster.
> > >
> > > There is a lot to sailing a 49er well, and it takes time for this to soak
> > in
> > > but experienced coaching I believe does accelerate the process.
> > >
> > > I am preparing a brief on rig setting for those not sure of the basic
> > > principles. I still find a few guys going out with (very) wrong rig
> > settings
> > > and this makes a 49er more difficult to sail and obviously slower.
> > >
> > > Nige ph 0414585070
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>



#1706 From: "Nick Schmidt" <nicholas.d.schmidt@...>
Date: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:57 am
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Gday Nigel

Sorry I've been away and didn't check the mail. I can do Sunday morning if you
haven't
made other plans. I'll head down to the club anyway and go over the boat at
about 9:00.

Nick

--- In sydney49ers@..., nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@...> wrote:
>
> OK mate.Do u want to do Next sat or sun morning. We could go out together, I
> can crew and you can helm and I can just coach that way if you want.
>
> N
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nick Schmidt
> <nicholas.d.schmidt@...>wrote:
>
> >   Well I am definitely keen to get some basic training on how to drive my
> > boat. As you know
> > I have only crewed on the 49er with John. John has been busy doing a law
> > degree and not
> > available. I would dearly like to get AUS157 back on the water.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > --- In sydney49ers@... <sydney49ers%40yahoogroups.com.au>,
> > nigel littlewood <nlittlewood@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yesterday saw quite a good turn out with the FKP boys back racing after a
> > > noticeable absence. Pity their fitness let them down and they went home
> > > after the second race :)Despite a pretty light difficult easterly we had
> > > some good racing amongst the 5 boats.
> > >
> > > STATES
> > > This coming weekend is the final weekend of the state titles at Lake
> > > Macquarie. At the moment it looks like 9 boats. Anyone thinking about
> > coming
> > > should make the effort, its a great place to sail and a weekend out of
> > > sydney is always a good thing.
> > > The long range wind forecast at this point looks positive so please make
> > the
> > > effort and get out on the water.
> > >
> > > COACHING
> > > Last week Nathan Outteridge came down and did some 49er coaching at the
> > > club. I did some filming from the coach boat and made a dvd available to
> > > Dave and Cam afterwards.
> > >
> > > For anyone wanting to improve I believe coaching is the best way to fast
> > > track the learning process. Most of us are not gifted enough to learn
> > simply
> > > by going out without instruction.
> > > If anyone is interested in having some coaching, I am available to help
> > > novices improve basic technique, if a more elite standard is required,
> > > Nathan is available too.
> > >
> > > There are different ways of doing things to help including filming and
> > > having coaching from on your boat and from a coach boat. Anyone who is
> > > interested please call me (0414 585 070) to discuss and I am sure it will
> > > help bring things along faster.
> > >
> > > There is a lot to sailing a 49er well, and it takes time for this to soak
> > in
> > > but experienced coaching I believe does accelerate the process.
> > >
> > > I am preparing a brief on rig setting for those not sure of the basic
> > > principles. I still find a few guys going out with (very) wrong rig
> > settings
> > > and this makes a 49er more difficult to sail and obviously slower.
> > >
> > > Nige ph 0414585070
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>


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