Hi Maureen
yes I would love to see Cobs competing in the sled pull and other classes as
the heavy horses are big here, the standards I refer to are in the Welsh Cob
handbook, done by Belinda, and yes you are right, the description is same
for Cob Type and Welsh Cob, bit with C's being often bred from A's and B's,
the welsh pony characteristics are more pronounced. "The welsh Pony of Cob
type is a smaller version of the Welsh Cob but with more pony quality" So
has the section C the same overseas, in Wales, am interested in as I still a
newie.
If I am wrong, please feel free to correct me, am learning! If anyone knows
what is the definition of a heavy horse, and if Cobs are eligible to be
shown, be really interested to know.

Thanks
Deb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maureen Scott" <bookra@...>
To: <welshcobs@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [welshcobs] (unknown)


> Deb, I do think some Cobs have been shown in 'pulling' classes for want of
a
> better description and Cobs certainly have a history of being draught
> animals.
> I do not know what the definition of a heavy horse is though.
> I totally agree that the two sections should have separate classes and
have
> worked towards this aim, but wonder where the different standards of
> excellence come in?
> Certainly the description of C & D in the stud book, which is what I
believe
> we breeders should adhere to, is identical - except for the height
> restriction for Section C.
> Maureen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deb Boyd" <dazzleme2@...>
> To: <welshcobs@...>
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [welshcobs] (unknown)
>
>
> > Hi All
> > am enjoying reading the comments from Cobbers.
> > Good points raised!, I have had the question "Is that a mini shire
horse?'
> > when showing a Sect D mare locally, so its tough at the moment with feed
> so
> > dear, am paying $30 bag lucerne chaff and $22 for Breeda, but things
will
> > pick up, soon we hope. As to crossing Cobs with arabs, I have seen a few
> and
> > they neither looked Cob, nor arab, they made good pony club , general
> riding
> > horses.I love the pure Cobs, but have heard people getting good crosses
> over
> > stock horse and thoroughbreds. I would really like to see C and D
classes
> > separate, even at the Royal as they have different standards of
> excellence,
> > but then I guess a judge should recognise that a C has more pony
> > characteristics, and a D also has different standards and can be up to
any
> > height. We recently had a huge heavy horse day here at Wingham, over 30
> > different Breeds, inc ,Shire, Clydesdales and the Aust draught which is
a
> > cross I believe. I asked the question, can a Cob be a heavy horse, and
was
> > told, no, so am very interested as to what is the definition of a heavy
> > horse, as Cobs were used for work and can be as big as the traditional
> > "Heavy Horse"
> > Has anyone shown their Cobs in heavy horse classes?
> > When the drought finally ends, people will be able to buy the lovely
Cobs,
> > dont give up Joelene, think of all that hard work and how good Trouby
> looks,
> > its a credit. It would be good if someone from the Society, maybe John,
> > could approach Horse Deals re a special feature, this month they are
doing
> > an "Off the Track" feature, last month was youngstock, so maybe a Welsh
> Cob
> > feature would help people understand they are way different to A and
B's,
> > and also get advertising cheaper.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Deb Boyd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Maureen Scott" <bookra@...>
> > To: <welshcobs@...>
> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 3:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [welshcobs] (unknown)
> >
> >
> > > I agree with Julie & John and I don't think any horses are selling
well
> > > throughout Australia at the moment due to the drought.
> > > I do think that breeding is a long term commitment, and you must
really
> > > admire the horses you are breeding.
> > > Whilst I am all for promoting Cob crosses and have done my best
> promoting
> > > them in Victoria in the past, I still
> > > think the best returns (financially and emotionally) are from breeding
> > > purebreds.
> > > I breed Cobs because I adore them, and I think they are the best all
> round
> > > mounts available.
> > > If I couldn't sell the offspring I might reduce my breeding numbers, I
> > > certainly couldn't change breeds.
> > > When I started showing Cobs in Victoria more than 15 years ago noone
had
> > any
> > > idea what they were.
> > > There were almost no classes for them and the Society treated them as
if
> > > they did not exist.
> > > A group of us got together and started the Cob group, held fund
raisers
> > (the
> > > Cob Ride & Drive days), had the Cob medallions
> > > struck and started donating them to various shows and competitions
such
> as
> > > dressage, driving etc just so the Cobs could get some classes and
> > > recognition.
> > > Most of us who won the medallions would recycle them by donating them
to
> > the
> > > next show!
> > > I wrote the Cob news in Action and the Journal for some years and we
> > started
> > > off the Cob Handbook.
> > > I, and many others, donated trophies to Royals and other shows and we
> > would
> > > win each other's trophies.
> > > I joined the Committee of Management to endeavour to push the Cob
> platform
> > > (as others have done such as Sabina, Val, John etc)
> > > and pushed very hard for separate championships for C's & D's at All
> > Welsh's
> > > where the numbers were adequate.
> > > I won't name names in case I forget someone but people in all other
> states
> > > have done likewise (or better) to promote the Cobs.
> > > If you want Cobs promoted, you need to start at the grass roots. It
> will
> > be
> > > great if the Society does more to promote Cobs and Cob crosses
> > > but don't wait for them to do it.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Julie Frauenfelder" <fluerdelys@...>
> > > To: <welshcobs@...>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 11:55 AM
> > > Subject: [welshcobs] (unknown)
> > >
> > >
> > > > JI Joelene,
> > > > I think it doesn't matter what you breed this year
anything
> is
> > > > hard to sell because of the drought. but I have breed both x's
> > including
> > > an
> > > > Australian champion Anglo Arabian filly, and yes qld may beharder
to
> > find
> > > > and sell any type of horse wether it be cob or arab. I think you
will
> > find
> > > > wether you have one or the other it doesn't really matter its just a
> bad
> > > > time. If you haven't been in arabs I think you will find that the
> money
> > > > isn't in arabs either! So the moral is that if you want to breed you
> > have
> > > to
> > > > be prepared to take the good with the bad,and it's the old story if
> the
> > > > horses are of exceptial quality they will generally sell in good
time
> > when
> > > > the right person comes along. this is only my opinion Julie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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