Hi Carol,
              Thanks for the info ,so would you say that you prefer treeless
saddles to "normal" saddles ?
     Regards Bridget

-----Original Message-----
From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
Behalf Of Carol & Peter
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:12 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: Re: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

Hi Briget
I have two treeless saddles one I ride on a horse with no wither (I call it
the arm chair) and the other I ride if the horse has a wither. They mould
around the horse as they warm up and they are very comfortable for horse and
rider.

I had to ride in a normal stock saddle the other day and I regretted that
once I got off :-). They can take a bit of getting used to as you feel EVERY
movement of the horse, but I feel it makes a you better rider and improves
the balance.

Sometimes you can ask for a demo saddle to get an idea if its your cup of
tea, as they are too expensive to buy one only to find out you dont like it.

I find that my arm chair saddle does slip a bit as I am getting on (so I use
the trusty mounting block or get someone to hold the stirrup on the other
side) but is fine when I am on. I think they are great and very kind to your
nether regions.
regards
Carol
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bridget
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:22 PM
   Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


   Thanks Sam, unfortunately I live in Tassie so I don't think I will be at
the
   Performance show ! did you try any of the other treeless saddles they have
   in their range ?
       Bye Bridget

   -----Original Message-----
   From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
   Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:34 PM
   To: welshcobs@...
   Subject: Re: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

   Hi Bridget,
   I find it great to ride in.The horse doesn't seem to bject either!!
   No it doesn't slip around.It moulds to your horse.
   I will have it at the Performance show on the 10th sept,if your going and
   want to have a look.
   Cheers
   Sam
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Bridget
     To: welshcobs@...
     Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:00 AM
     Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


     Hi Sam , please tell us more !
     I am debating about getting one myself and wanted a bit of feedback eg
   what
     is it like for the rider and does the horse seem to move better ?
          Regards Bridget
     PS does it slip at all, even when you mount ?

     -----Original Message-----
     From: welshcobs@...
[mailto:welshcobs@...]On
     Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
     Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:53 PM
     To: welshcobs@...
     Cc: ZINNA SEMCHIF
     Subject: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

     Hi All,
     I have my new treeless cob saddle!!!
     It is the Horse connection London dressage saddle.It looks just like a
   real
     dressage saddle,and is so soft and comfy.
     No more worrying about changing gullets for every horse!!
     Cheers
     Sam

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No i didn't.Had a ride in a Torsion,but I wanted real leather and something that
looked like a dressage saddle.
Cheers
Sam
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bridget
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:22 PM
   Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


   Thanks Sam, unfortunately I live in Tassie so I don't think I will be at the
   Performance show ! did you try any of the other treeless saddles they have
   in their range ?
       Bye Bridget

   -----Original Message-----
   From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
   Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:34 PM
   To: welshcobs@...
   Subject: Re: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

   Hi Bridget,
   I find it great to ride in.The horse doesn't seem to bject either!!
   No it doesn't slip around.It moulds to your horse.
   I will have it at the Performance show on the 10th sept,if your going and
   want to have a look.
   Cheers
   Sam
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Bridget
     To: welshcobs@...
     Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:00 AM
     Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


     Hi Sam , please tell us more !
     I am debating about getting one myself and wanted a bit of feedback eg
   what
     is it like for the rider and does the horse seem to move better ?
          Regards Bridget
     PS does it slip at all, even when you mount ?

     -----Original Message-----
     From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
     Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
     Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:53 PM
     To: welshcobs@...
     Cc: ZINNA SEMCHIF
     Subject: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

     Hi All,
     I have my new treeless cob saddle!!!
     It is the Horse connection London dressage saddle.It looks just like a
   real
     dressage saddle,and is so soft and comfy.
     No more worrying about changing gullets for every horse!!
     Cheers
     Sam

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Hi Briget
I have two treeless saddles one I ride on a horse with no wither (I call it the
arm chair) and the other I ride if the horse has a wither. They mould around the
horse as they warm up and they are very comfortable for horse and rider.

I had to ride in a normal stock saddle the other day and I regretted that once I
got off :-). They can take a bit of getting used to as you feel EVERY movement
of the horse, but I feel it makes a you better rider and improves the balance.

Sometimes you can ask for a demo saddle to get an idea if its your cup of tea,
as they are too expensive to buy one only to find out you dont like it.

I find that my arm chair saddle does slip a bit as I am getting on (so I use the
trusty mounting block or get someone to hold the stirrup on the other side) but
is fine when I am on. I think they are great and very kind to your nether
regions.
regards
Carol
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bridget
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:22 PM
   Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


   Thanks Sam, unfortunately I live in Tassie so I don't think I will be at the
   Performance show ! did you try any of the other treeless saddles they have
   in their range ?
       Bye Bridget

   -----Original Message-----
   From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
   Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:34 PM
   To: welshcobs@...
   Subject: Re: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

   Hi Bridget,
   I find it great to ride in.The horse doesn't seem to bject either!!
   No it doesn't slip around.It moulds to your horse.
   I will have it at the Performance show on the 10th sept,if your going and
   want to have a look.
   Cheers
   Sam
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Bridget
     To: welshcobs@...
     Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:00 AM
     Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


     Hi Sam , please tell us more !
     I am debating about getting one myself and wanted a bit of feedback eg
   what
     is it like for the rider and does the horse seem to move better ?
          Regards Bridget
     PS does it slip at all, even when you mount ?

     -----Original Message-----
     From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
     Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
     Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:53 PM
     To: welshcobs@...
     Cc: ZINNA SEMCHIF
     Subject: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

     Hi All,
     I have my new treeless cob saddle!!!
     It is the Horse connection London dressage saddle.It looks just like a
   real
     dressage saddle,and is so soft and comfy.
     No more worrying about changing gullets for every horse!!
     Cheers
     Sam

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I do agree that horses with this fault should not be bred from however I have 3
in my paddock that prove that a stallion with this fault does not always pass it
on.
I was aware of the fault but also knew he had sired over a hundred foals and not
one had the fault.  It was a huge risk but as the family are also the best
performed Irish Draughts in the world it was a chance I was prepared to take.

I guess thats also why the fault is so prominent in TB lines that race well.

Judith

--- Original Message -----
   From: Sam Cavanagh
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 5:44 PM
   Subject: Re: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


   I agree Dianne.Don't breed on the faults.The same with leg faults.
   And don't be too disheartened Sabina.Jealousy is a curse!!!People usually
knock what they can't afford or can't have or do for themselves!!
   Cheers
   Sam
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Dianne L Marshall
     To: welshcobs@...
     Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:06 PM
     Subject: Re: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


     hi all :-)
       i have seen a parrot mouth in a  cob......
       same as any other breed ,faults are going to crop up from time to
time.....
       but as long as the line is not bred from and the horse can still keep
weight on and have a usefull life then good oh.

       same as the ponies........there is no such thing as  a perfect horse.....

       i heard on the radio this morning(in wa) that a pony from the hurricans
last yr in america had a front of leg amputated below the knee. they were
talking to one of the vets over there and it has an artifical leg from two
inched below the knee. it was a pony and they said if it didnt have the
temprement it dose it could not have been saved. tolerates the limb being
cahnged and all......

       but i do stongly believe if a horse pony cob whatever has a fault then it
should not be bred on.

       just my opinion
       cheers dianne

     Emerald Park <apjhfarm@...> wrote:
       I have seen this fault quite badly in TBs for some reason it also appears
in one of the most best known of the
     Irish Draught lines.  I gather the reason that its mostly prominent in the
TB lines is that it does not interfere with a horses racing and so these lines
continued to be produced as long as they ran well enough.  I've seen a couple of
really bad ones and co incidentally they were both really large horses of over
16.3.  Both owners were terrified that they would have a hard time keeping
weight on them but they managed fine and never looked poor.
     I would certainly hesitate to buy a riding horse with this fault though.   
Not sure how it got into the Irish line but again does not seem to have stopped
anyone breeding to that line. I knew the stallion was parrot mouthed but still
bred 3 times to him.  Not one of the progeny has any mouth issues whatsoever and
they have certainly inherited the best parts of the family line.  I know alot of
the stallions progeny and have only ever met one who had a slight misalignment
which could have in fact come from the mare line.

     Go Rhiannon you sure are Hotstuff.


     -- Original Message -----
       From: Sabina
       To: welshcobs@...
       Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:47 PM
       Subject: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


       The information that a line of cobs has mouth problems is news to me,
       like Shirley I have never come across one.
       I have seen a few TB's and various crossbreds with parrot mouths though.

       Maybe it is just another case of the gossip fairies,
       Love this tidbit I heard recently
       Rhiannon is really really hot and crazy so I am frightened of her
       Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard, you would be lucky to
       get a reaction out of her if you put a firecracker up her butt!
       =-O :-D :-D

       I would never make any kind of decision on hearsay but get my
       information from a variety of sources and check it out myself!
       And make sure it was fact before I sharing it with anyone!!!

       Sabina





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Thanks Sam, unfortunately I live in Tassie so I don't think I will be at the
Performance show ! did you try any of the other treeless saddles they have
in their range ?
     Bye Bridget

-----Original Message-----
From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:34 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: Re: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

Hi Bridget,
I find it great to ride in.The horse doesn't seem to bject either!!
No it doesn't slip around.It moulds to your horse.
I will have it at the Performance show on the 10th sept,if your going and
want to have a look.
Cheers
Sam
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bridget
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:00 AM
   Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


   Hi Sam , please tell us more !
   I am debating about getting one myself and wanted a bit of feedback eg
what
   is it like for the rider and does the horse seem to move better ?
        Regards Bridget
   PS does it slip at all, even when you mount ?

   -----Original Message-----
   From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
   Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:53 PM
   To: welshcobs@...
   Cc: ZINNA SEMCHIF
   Subject: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

   Hi All,
   I have my new treeless cob saddle!!!
   It is the Horse connection London dressage saddle.It looks just like a
real
   dressage saddle,and is so soft and comfy.
   No more worrying about changing gullets for every horse!!
   Cheers
   Sam

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I agree Dianne.Don't breed on the faults.The same with leg faults.
And don't be too disheartened Sabina.Jealousy is a curse!!!People usually knock
what they can't afford or can't have or do for themselves!!
Cheers
Sam
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dianne L Marshall
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:06 PM
   Subject: Re: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


   hi all :-)
     i have seen a parrot mouth in a  cob......
     same as any other breed ,faults are going to crop up from time to time.....
     but as long as the line is not bred from and the horse can still keep weight
on and have a usefull life then good oh.

     same as the ponies........there is no such thing as  a perfect horse.....

     i heard on the radio this morning(in wa) that a pony from the hurricans last
yr in america had a front of leg amputated below the knee. they were talking to
one of the vets over there and it has an artifical leg from two inched below the
knee. it was a pony and they said if it didnt have the temprement it dose it
could not have been saved. tolerates the limb being cahnged and all......

     but i do stongly believe if a horse pony cob whatever has a fault then it
should not be bred on.

     just my opinion
     cheers dianne

   Emerald Park <apjhfarm@...> wrote:
     I have seen this fault quite badly in TBs for some reason it also appears in
one of the most best known of the
   Irish Draught lines.  I gather the reason that its mostly prominent in the TB
lines is that it does not interfere with a horses racing and so these lines
continued to be produced as long as they ran well enough.  I've seen a couple of
really bad ones and co incidentally they were both really large horses of over
16.3.  Both owners were terrified that they would have a hard time keeping
weight on them but they managed fine and never looked poor.
   I would certainly hesitate to buy a riding horse with this fault though.   
Not sure how it got into the Irish line but again does not seem to have stopped
anyone breeding to that line. I knew the stallion was parrot mouthed but still
bred 3 times to him.  Not one of the progeny has any mouth issues whatsoever and
they have certainly inherited the best parts of the family line.  I know alot of
the stallions progeny and have only ever met one who had a slight misalignment
which could have in fact come from the mare line.

   Go Rhiannon you sure are Hotstuff.


   -- Original Message -----
     From: Sabina
     To: welshcobs@...
     Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:47 PM
     Subject: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


     The information that a line of cobs has mouth problems is news to me,
     like Shirley I have never come across one.
     I have seen a few TB's and various crossbreds with parrot mouths though.

     Maybe it is just another case of the gossip fairies,
     Love this tidbit I heard recently
     Rhiannon is really really hot and crazy so I am frightened of her
     Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard, you would be lucky to
     get a reaction out of her if you put a firecracker up her butt!
     =-O :-D :-D

     I would never make any kind of decision on hearsay but get my
     information from a variety of sources and check it out myself!
     And make sure it was fact before I sharing it with anyone!!!

     Sabina





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Hi Bridget,
I find it great to ride in.The horse doesn't seem to bject either!!
No it doesn't slip around.It moulds to your horse.
I will have it at the Performance show on the 10th sept,if your going and want
to have a look.
Cheers
Sam
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bridget
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:00 AM
   Subject: RE: [welshcobs] treeless saddles


   Hi Sam , please tell us more !
   I am debating about getting one myself and wanted a bit of feedback eg what
   is it like for the rider and does the horse seem to move better ?
        Regards Bridget
   PS does it slip at all, even when you mount ?

   -----Original Message-----
   From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
   Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:53 PM
   To: welshcobs@...
   Cc: ZINNA SEMCHIF
   Subject: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

   Hi All,
   I have my new treeless cob saddle!!!
   It is the Horse connection London dressage saddle.It looks just like a real
   dressage saddle,and is so soft and comfy.
   No more worrying about changing gullets for every horse!!
   Cheers
   Sam

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hi all :-)
   i have seen a parrot mouth in a  cob......
   same as any other breed ,faults are going to crop up from time to time.....
   but as long as the line is not bred from and the horse can still keep weight
on and have a usefull life then good oh.

   same as the ponies........there is no such thing as  a perfect horse.....

   i heard on the radio this morning(in wa) that a pony from the hurricans last
yr in america had a front of leg amputated below the knee. they were talking to
one of the vets over there and it has an artifical leg from two inched below the
knee. it was a pony and they said if it didnt have the temprement it dose it
could not have been saved. tolerates the limb being cahnged and all......

   but i do stongly believe if a horse pony cob whatever has a fault then it
should not be bred on.

   just my opinion
   cheers dianne

Emerald Park <apjhfarm@...> wrote:
   I have seen this fault quite badly in TBs for some reason it also appears in
one of the most best known of the
Irish Draught lines.  I gather the reason that its mostly prominent in the TB
lines is that it does not interfere with a horses racing and so these lines
continued to be produced as long as they ran well enough.  I've seen a couple of
really bad ones and co incidentally they were both really large horses of over
16.3.  Both owners were terrified that they would have a hard time keeping
weight on them but they managed fine and never looked poor.
I would certainly hesitate to buy a riding horse with this fault though.    Not
sure how it got into the Irish line but again does not seem to have stopped
anyone breeding to that line. I knew the stallion was parrot mouthed but still
bred 3 times to him.  Not one of the progeny has any mouth issues whatsoever and
they have certainly inherited the best parts of the family line.  I know alot of
the stallions progeny and have only ever met one who had a slight misalignment
which could have in fact come from the mare line.

Go Rhiannon you sure are Hotstuff.


-- Original Message -----
   From: Sabina
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:47 PM
   Subject: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


   The information that a line of cobs has mouth problems is news to me,
   like Shirley I have never come across one.
   I have seen a few TB's and various crossbreds with parrot mouths though.

   Maybe it is just another case of the gossip fairies,
   Love this tidbit I heard recently
   Rhiannon is really really hot and crazy so I am frightened of her
   Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard, you would be lucky to
   get a reaction out of her if you put a firecracker up her butt!
   =-O :-D :-D

   I would never make any kind of decision on hearsay but get my
   information from a variety of sources and check it out myself!
   And make sure it was fact before I sharing it with anyone!!!

   Sabina





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Hi Sam , please tell us more !
  I am debating about getting one myself and wanted a bit of feedback eg what
is it like for the rider and does the horse seem to move better ?
      Regards Bridget
PS does it slip at all, even when you mount ?

-----Original Message-----
From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...]On
Behalf Of Sam Cavanagh
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:53 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Cc: ZINNA SEMCHIF
Subject: [welshcobs] treeless saddles

Hi All,
I have my new treeless cob saddle!!!
It is the Horse connection London dressage saddle.It looks just like a real
dressage saddle,and is so soft and comfy.
No more worrying about changing gullets for every horse!!
Cheers
Sam

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I have seen this fault quite badly in TBs for some reason it also appears in one
of the most best known of the
Irish Draught lines.  I gather the reason that its mostly prominent in the TB
lines is that it does not interfere with a horses racing and so these lines
continued to be produced as long as they ran well enough.  I've seen a couple of
really bad ones and co incidentally they were both really large horses of over
16.3.  Both owners were terrified that they would have a hard time keeping
weight on them but they managed fine and never looked poor.
I would certainly hesitate to buy a riding horse with this fault though.    Not
sure how it got into the Irish line but again does not seem to have stopped
anyone breeding to that line. I knew the stallion was parrot mouthed but still
bred 3 times to him.  Not one of the progeny has any mouth issues whatsoever and
they have certainly inherited the best parts of the family line.  I know alot of
the stallions progeny and have only ever met one who had a slight misalignment
which could have in fact come from the mare line.

Go Rhiannon you sure are Hotstuff.


-- Original Message -----
   From: Sabina
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:47 PM
   Subject: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


   The information that a line of cobs has mouth problems is news to me,
   like Shirley I have never come across one.
   I have seen a few TB's and various crossbreds with parrot mouths though.

   Maybe it is just another case of the gossip fairies,
   Love this tidbit I heard recently
   Rhiannon is really really hot and crazy so I am frightened of her
   Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard, you would be lucky to
   get a reaction out of her if you put a firecracker up her butt!
   =-O :-D :-D

   I would never make any kind of decision on hearsay but get my
   information from a variety of sources and check it out myself!
   And make sure it was fact before I sharing it with anyone!!!

   Sabina





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Maybe shes "hot"property?? (like in demand??) :)))

Cheers
Rae Borg
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Kim James
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:51 PM
   Subject: Re: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


   Hi Sabina,

   Rhiannon is "hot", but not in that sense!...........laughing..............

   Kim
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Sabina
     To: welshcobs@...
     Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:47 PM
     Subject: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


     The information that a line of cobs has mouth problems is news to me,
     like Shirley I have never come across one.
     I have seen a few TB's and various crossbreds with parrot mouths though.

     Maybe it is just another case of the gossip fairies,
     Love this tidbit I heard recently
     Rhiannon is really really hot and crazy so I am frightened of her
     Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard, you would be lucky to
     get a reaction out of her if you put a firecracker up her butt!
     =-O :-D :-D

     I would never make any kind of decision on hearsay but get my
     information from a variety of sources and check it out myself!
     And make sure it was fact before I sharing it with anyone!!!

     Sabina





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Hi Sabina,

Rhiannon is "hot", but not in that sense!...........laughing..............

Kim
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Sabina
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:47 PM
   Subject: [welshcobs] bad mouthing cobs


   The information that a line of cobs has mouth problems is news to me,
   like Shirley I have never come across one.
   I have seen a few TB's and various crossbreds with parrot mouths though.

   Maybe it is just another case of the gossip fairies,
   Love this tidbit I heard recently
   Rhiannon is really really hot and crazy so I am frightened of her
   Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard, you would be lucky to
   get a reaction out of her if you put a firecracker up her butt!
   =-O :-D :-D

   I would never make any kind of decision on hearsay but get my
   information from a variety of sources and check it out myself!
   And make sure it was fact before I sharing it with anyone!!!

   Sabina





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The information that a line of cobs has mouth problems is news to me,
like Shirley I have never come across one.
I have seen a few TB's and various crossbreds with parrot mouths though.

Maybe it is just another case of the gossip fairies,
Love this tidbit I heard recently
Rhiannon is really really hot and crazy so I am frightened of her
Now that is the funniest thing I have ever heard, you would be lucky to
get a reaction out of her if you put a firecracker up her butt!
=-O :-D :-D

I would never make any kind of decision on hearsay but get my
information from a variety of sources and check it out myself!
And make sure it was fact before I sharing it with anyone!!!

Sabina

As a breeder of Welsh Cobs for nearly 30 years, I have   never seen
one with a malformed bite.  Maybe I have just been lucky, but I have
never even heard that suggested before!
As a Judge on a few different breed panels, it is one of the  required
things to check teeth for overshot and undershot teeth, also in a
stallion to check that his "masculinity "is all there.
Some people do not like you to touch their horses mouth in case of
spreading germs, so it is often wiser for the judge to ask the handler
to open the horse mouth for the judge to see.
A foal that is born with a SLIGHTLY uneven bite( This I have seen in
two miniature ponies ) usually evens up within a few months.
This question re horses mouths is something that would be mentioned
and discussed at any Welsh Seminar, a very good reason to attend one
to learn about all conformation points!    Shirley

Hi All,
I have my new treeless cob saddle!!!
It is the Horse connection London dressage saddle.It looks just like a real
dressage saddle,and is so soft and comfy.
No more worrying about changing gullets for every horse!!
Cheers
Sam

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Free to bring your gear to sell, limited space available contact Elaine
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Hi
The class was a combined APSB, most were Australian Ponies so I don't know
if that may apply to them
Many thanks
KP

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From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...] On
Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 2:27 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: Re: [welshcobs] Question for the group


Hi Kate,
I have been told that "some"  lines of cob breeding have an overshot jaw
issue and i would think this is what the Judge is looking for.
Kind regards Natalie.

-------Original Message-------

From: Katharine
Date: 08/07/06 14:23:50
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: [welshcobs] Question for the group

Hi
Sorry if this sounds a dumb question but..........
Can any one tell me why a judge asks to look into a horses mouth when
judging a breed class.
I thought it may be age,or to see if there was a defect.
Many thanks
Dumbo Kate Prince







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Hi,
Yep to check the lay of the mouth - conformation and I have had this done with
my stallion in the arabian rings. Needs to be done a lot more often though.
Kerri-Ann

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Can anyone elaberate on this? Any particular cob line this has
affected more?
I have seen parrot mouth in t/breds and have just seen a pony with her
top jaw smaller than her lower jaw..Does anyone know if there is
anything you can do in this situation. She seemed well enough, nice
and fat etc, just couldn't graze but ate hay fine etc...
I would love any info anyone has on this email me here or privately..

thanks
Kathy
kateecyparkwelshys@...

Hi Kate,
I have been told that "some"  lines of cob breeding have an overshot jaw
issue and i would think this is what the Judge is looking for.
Kind regards Natalie.

-------Original Message-------

From: Katharine
Date: 08/07/06 14:23:50
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: [welshcobs] Question for the group

Hi
Sorry if this sounds a dumb question but..........
Can any one tell me why a judge asks to look into a horses mouth when
judging a breed class.
I thought it may be age,or to see if there was a defect.
Many thanks
Dumbo Kate Prince







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Yes it just foxed me.
I would of thought a defect would of been visible.
It was an APSB class  and some horses had bits some didn't..
Wish I had met the judge I would of asked her.
Thank you for all your answers and I don't feel so dumb now lol
KP


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From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...] On
Behalf Of yarrabuck
Sent: Monday, 7 August 2006 2:56 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: [welshcobs] Re: Question for the group


Hi
not a dumb question, tho i dont know the answer i think it would have
maybe more to do with like if they had a parrot mouth, defect or
whatever. I must say i have never seen a judge do that either. it does
sound weird! you would think it would be about the age, normally the
classes are set out like yearling 2yo 3yo ect ect. i duno!
Nikki


--- In welshcobs@..., "Katharine" <kate.prince@r...>
wrote:
>
> Hi
> Sorry if this sounds a dumb question but..........
> Can any one tell me why a judge asks to look into a horses mouth when
> judging a breed class.
> I thought it may be age,or to see if there was a defect.
> Many thanks
> Dumbo Kate Prince
>







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what a great posting, to open this morning, 3 generations of cobs doing sooo
well, Barnon Imrerial Jack, fasther of Fluerdelys Hamish and Hamish the father
of Rhadlon Hywell. but this wouldn't be possible without the work of  Kasey ,
Norm and Julie. a job well done. just shows what can be done if taken out in
open company, GO  THE COBS.  Julie F
--- In welshcobs@..., "yarrabuck" <yarrabuck@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Yes yet again, cobs take it all!
>
> Today I was lucky to head off to Werribee for the ASPR Offical/Assoc.
> EFA Dressage and ShowJumping Day.
>
> It was a day off success, namely Kasey Tozer who rode her trusty
> steed Rhadlon Hywel in Dressage and took out (mind you i had to let a
> list written so i could remember).....
> Hi Point Welsh Pony
> Premier ASPR Pony
> Res. Ch. Assoc. Novice
> AND the Cob Medallion (i think that was for Hi Point Cob 81%+ in
> Prelim. Test.
>
> Did i forget anything?? Haha, not a good report writer BUT i know she
> did a TOP TOP job, keep up the excellent work Kasey, awsome stuff.
>
> And before I forget, i think i will rename Barnon Imperial Jack (i
> hope thats ok) JUMPING JACK FLASH, with Jack taking out the 90cm
> Showjumping and earning himself a new fanclub, well done Jack and
> Norm. Dont we just love winning!!!!
>
> Ok i thin that sums it up, if i forgot anything feel free to add, but
> cant get much better than that, common' cob people get ya awsome
> ponies out!!!
>
> Catch, Nikki
> YarraBuck Park Welsh Ponies & Cobs
>



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Thats what i was told.To check for a parrot mouth,or other defects.Alot of
people forget to look in the mouth.Theres some terrible defects you can breed
on.
Cheers
Sam
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ozwelshcobs
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:57 PM
   Subject: [welshcobs] Re: Question for the group


   could be checking to see if the horse has an over or underbite ?
   --- In welshcobs@..., "Katharine" <kate.prince@r...>
   wrote:
   >
   > Hi
   > Sorry if this sounds a dumb question but..........
   > Can any one tell me why a judge asks to look into a horses mouth when
   > judging a breed class.
   > I thought it may be age,or to see if there was a defect.
   > Many thanks
   > Dumbo Kate Prince
   >







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Hi
not a dumb question, tho i dont know the answer i think it would have
maybe more to do with like if they had a parrot mouth, defect or
whatever. I must say i have never seen a judge do that either. it does
sound weird! you would think it would be about the age, normally the
classes are set out like yearling 2yo 3yo ect ect. i duno!
Nikki


--- In welshcobs@..., "Katharine" <kate.prince@r...>
wrote:
>
> Hi
> Sorry if this sounds a dumb question but..........
> Can any one tell me why a judge asks to look into a horses mouth when
> judging a breed class.
> I thought it may be age,or to see if there was a defect.
> Many thanks
> Dumbo Kate Prince
>

could be checking to see if the horse has an over or underbite ?
--- In welshcobs@..., "Katharine" <kate.prince@r...>
wrote:
>
> Hi
> Sorry if this sounds a dumb question but..........
> Can any one tell me why a judge asks to look into a horses mouth when
> judging a breed class.
> I thought it may be age,or to see if there was a defect.
> Many thanks
> Dumbo Kate Prince
>

Hi
Sorry if this sounds a dumb question but..........
Can any one tell me why a judge asks to look into a horses mouth when
judging a breed class.
I thought it may be age,or to see if there was a defect.
Many thanks
Dumbo Kate Prince

Hi All,

Yes yet again, cobs take it all!

Today I was lucky to head off to Werribee for the ASPR Offical/Assoc.
EFA Dressage and ShowJumping Day.

It was a day off success, namely Kasey Tozer who rode her trusty
steed Rhadlon Hywel in Dressage and took out (mind you i had to let a
list written so i could remember).....
Hi Point Welsh Pony
Premier ASPR Pony
Res. Ch. Assoc. Novice
AND the Cob Medallion (i think that was for Hi Point Cob 81%+ in
Prelim. Test.

Did i forget anything?? Haha, not a good report writer BUT i know she
did a TOP TOP job, keep up the excellent work Kasey, awsome stuff.

And before I forget, i think i will rename Barnon Imperial Jack (i
hope thats ok) JUMPING JACK FLASH, with Jack taking out the 90cm
Showjumping and earning himself a new fanclub, well done Jack and
Norm. Dont we just love winning!!!!

Ok i thin that sums it up, if i forgot anything feel free to add, but
cant get much better than that, common' cob people get ya awsome
ponies out!!!

Catch, Nikki
YarraBuck Park Welsh Ponies & Cobs

Dear Noel & Debra,
Could please have a listing of your cobs for sale.
Carole Riley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel & Debra Oldaker" <cataraqui@...>
To: <welshcobs@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: [welshcobs] Cataraqui Stud Reduction


>  Due to  the lack of rain we have decided to reduce our numbers
> greatly, mainly fillies. For listing email cataraqui@...
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Hi Leonie,

Being highly distracted and also sick with the flu I accidentally deleted the
text you sent me
with all your new contact details.

Humour me and re-send them? Sorry!

Hope all is well!

Kirsty