It is vitally important that we pony people get our views across to the ADC,
as soon as possible.
I've received many differing points of view in regard to what might be the
best way to do this. To that end, I think we can do as I've listed below :

- The ASPR (as a representative body) will write a letter signed by myself,
as Federal Secretary
- A letter with no letterhead will be sent. Everyone who agrees (as per
below) can add their names. You will have to advise me via email if you are
willing to have your name added. This letter will not be signed by everyone
(as this will take far too long) other than by myself verifying that each
and every person listed did advise that they wanted their name added. Sort
of like a stat dec - otherwise, the list of names just could have been made
up.
- Individuals are still encouraged to write their own letter or email the
ADC if they wish.

So, if you are in agreement with what is written below, please email me and
I will add your name. A copy of this letter will also be forwarded to all
State Dressage Committees.
Margie - ASPR

For those that wish to write individually with their own thoughts, the ADC
address is:

The Chairperson
Lesley Sullivan
Australian Dressage Committee
C/- EA National Office
PO Box 673
SYDNEY MARKETS NSW 2129

You must email me with your agreement to have your name added to the below
by Friday 30th October.
________________________________________________

We, the undersigned wish to submit two options for the Australian Dressage
Committee's consideration in regard to the Pony Dressage Points Amnesty.
Option 1

* From 1st January, 2010 to 31st December, 2010 the height minimum is waived
and horses and ponies go all in together from Prelim to Advanced. This would
be the same as the trial that was run in Victoria several years ago, which
was very successful with riders, OC's and judges.
* OC's could still choose to run separate horse and pony tests, but if no
separate pony test is provided, horses and ponies go in together ie: no
separate prizes or points.
* At the end of the 12 months, re-evaluate the situation. ADC to invite
feedback from all EA members, affiliated EA clubs and EA judges. If the
majority are happy with no height minimum then stay with it, again, with the
proviso that OC's can choose to run separate horse & pony tests if they
choose.

Option 2

* Continue with separate pony classes as they are now (ie; ponies at the
start or end of the draw)
* From 1st January, 2010 introduce a ruling that there must be a minimum of
4 ponies/horses entered in an official test before points are awarded.
* Increase the minimum percentage required for Elementary and above to 60%
(same as Prelim/Novice) before points are given. It is not only ponies that
are pointing through the levels too quickly.
* Do not separate horses and ponies on the day for sashes/prizes, which will
address the extra costs that OC's are expressing concern about. Ponies and
horses are only separated on the official results sheets for points. The
minimum number of 4 ponies/horses and the increase of the minimum percentage
required should go a long way to addressing the issue of anyone pointing up
too quickly.
* At the end of the 12 months, re-evaluate the situation and the ADC to
invite feedback from all EA members, affiliated EA clubs and EA judges.

We would also like to see consideration given to the inclusion of official
pony dressage classes at the National Dressage Championships, with the same
qualifying criteria for horses to be applicable to ponies.

Signed............

send too:  <mailto:aspr@...> aspr@...

this post was posted on behalf of the ASPR



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Looking for DYMOND PLACE MAESTRO.

11yo Chestnut section B gelding.Still registered to a Donna Davidson.

We Believe he was down near Benella.

Please contact Sam Cavanagh 0260712542

gresam03@...

Would love to know how he is going.



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From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...] On
Behalf Of shirleyannette1935
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:50 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: [welshcobs] Not even the dog people!





Hi Sam

Nice to see someone is still on air! Thanks for the accolade, I am still
trying to do my best with breeding good cobs, but Daniel is 27 this year so
don't know how long he can keep producing the " goods " ! Time will tell.
Katie is in foal again, so who knows what will come.

Hope your knee is all better, and you are able to enjoy riding again

Shirley





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Hi Shirley,

Yes my knee took 10 months to heal.Starting riding again last September.I
came off my sons horse two weeks ago and cracked two ribs,so I'm back in
sick bay again!!We are down to one horse atm,which is a big change of
pace.Miss my cobs.I hope Daniel can keep 'producing the goods' for many
years to come!!!

Nice to hear from you.

Keep me in mind when you get another big moving yellow boy.

Cheers

Sam



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Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:50 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: [welshcobs] Not even the dog people!





Hi Sam

Nice to see someone is still on air! Thanks for the accolade, I am still
trying to do my best with breeding good cobs, but Daniel is 27 this year so
don't know how long he can keep producing the " goods " ! Time will tell.
Katie is in foal again, so who knows what will come.

Hope your knee is all better, and you are able to enjoy riding again

Shirley





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Hi Sam

Nice to see someone is still on air!  Thanks for the accolade, I am still trying
to do my best with breeding good cobs, but Daniel is 27 this year so don't know
how long he can keep producing the " goods " ! Time will tell. Katie is in foal
again, so who knows what will come.

Hope your knee is all better, and you are able to enjoy riding again

Shirley

How are you Shirley???

I hope you are well:-)

When you breed another lovely yellow boy let me know.

I think you breed the best cobs!

Cheers

Sam



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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:58 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: [welshcobs] Not even the dog people!!





No messages on this site for so long, not even the dog people are using it.
( as in Welsh Pony Frienda ) There used to be lots of talk and things
happening, is it the cold weather???

I have 2 Sec D fillies for sale, lovely show quality and ma.turing around
14/14.1h. They are both by Annan Welshman Sec D and out of Acheron mares

Also have a C brood mare and a D mare for sale, enquiries welcome.

Shirley





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No messages on this site for so long, not even the dog people are using it. ( as
in Welsh Pony Frienda )  There used to be lots of talk and things happening, is
it the cold weather???

I have 2 Sec D fillies for sale, lovely show quality and ma.turing around
14/14.1h.  They are both by Annan Welshman Sec D and out of Acheron mares

Also have a C brood mare and a D mare for sale, enquiries welcome.

Shirley

--- In welshcobs@..., "angelicarmena" <tennesha_b@...> wrote:
>
> hi all
>
> looking for a suitable beginners mount around 13hh and 7yrs and over..
> preferably gelding with good personality something that has been there done
that.. under $5000
>
> cheers steph

Hi Steph,
try www.allwelsh.com
  some nice ponies on there that would fit the bill

Delwyn

MARES
KEYI JUBILATION
Welsh Sec B broodmare.Chestnut,12.2hh approx.9 yo.
S:Weston Fernando(imp)
D:Weston Park Valetta.
Jay is a lovely sweet mare with big expressive eyes and tiny ears.She is an easy
breeder(hand or paddock serve) and a great mum.
Easy to catch,trim,handle etc etc.
All of Jay's babies have lovely natures and easy going personalities.
Jay has been re-served by Glenvale Kleeshay,bay arabian pony,part welsh,riding
pony stallion and has yet to return.
Jay is registered WP&CS,APSB and RPSB.
$1800 neg.


GLYNYARRA SNOWFLAKE
Sec A broodmare.Grey,17yo.
S:Cartref Park Pep
D:View Bank Touche.
Snowflake is a lovely mare with a lovely bone,and a sweet dinky little head..
She is easy to do anything with and is a great mother.
$1200

2007 FILLIES

SHALIDA PARK SHAKIRA
Jaytee Eclipse X Curringa Shala
Bay pure arabian filly to mature approx 14.2hh.Kira is a lovely filly with a
very sweet nature and is super friendly.She has great movement and is a lovely
looking filly.Shakira is a 1/2 sister to our successful stallion Shalida Park
Adonis and to our show filly now broodmare Shalida Park Charmed.Unshown as needs
time to mature.
$1500.

2008 FILLIES

SHALIDA PARK CAPRICE
Bay arabian pony,part welsh,APSB weanling filly to mature approx 12.2hh.
Capi is a delightful filly with an incredibly friendly nature.She loves people
and is already very well handled.
With her pretty looks and great movement this filly will be a great show filly
and future child's show pony/best friend.
You will not be able to fault her temperament.
Halter trained and shown at foal shows with success.
$1500.

SHALIDA PARK KASIA
Liver chestnut arabian pony,part welsh,APSB weanling filly to mature approx
12-12.2hh.
Kasia is a correct and pretty filly with lovely movement.A definate show filly
and future saddle mount with a lovely temperament.
$1000.

SHALIDA PARK SIANNA
Buckskin arabian pony,part welsh,APSB part bred filly,elig NBS.To mature approx
12hh.Sianna is a super fine very pretty filly with a sweet temperament..Well
handled and halter trained.
$1500.

SHALIDA PARK PORTIA
Bay arabian pony,part welsh,APSB part bred filly to mature approx 12.3hh.Potty
is an extremely "in your face" friendly little girl with lovely movement and
pretty looks.
Well handled and very quiet.
$1200.

For photos and any information on any of the ponies please contact
Donna
03 56685286









DONNA FRANCIS
SHALIDA PARK WELSH & ARABIAN PONIES
Breeding quality show ponies
HOME OF:
GLENVALE KLEESHAY...Arabian Pony,Part Welsh,Riding Pony
RICHDALE PLAYTIME...Welsh Sec A.
03 56685286
www.shalidapark.uni.cc
 
 
 


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hi all

looking for a suitable beginners mount around 13hh and 7yrs and over..
preferably gelding with good personality something that has been there done
that.. under $5000

cheers steph

Hi
If anyone has a current email address for Janelle Willoughby.I would like to
contact her regarding some more details on a cob cross she may have bred by
Lambrook Park Dackery.
Jody


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GLYNYARRA SNOWFLAKE
Sec A broodmare.Grey,17yo.
S:Cartref Park Pep
D:View Bank Touche.
Snowflake is a lovely mare with a lovely bone,and a sweet dinky little head.
She is easy to do anything with and is a great mother.
$1500.
 

KEYI JUBILATION.
Welsh Sec B broodmare.Chestnut,12.2hh approx.9 yo.
S:Weston Fernando(imp)
D:Weston Park Valetta.
Jay is a lovely sweet mare with big expressive eyes and tiny ears.She is an easy
breeder(hand or paddock serve) and a great mum.
Easy to catch,shoe,handle etc etc.
All of Jay's babies have lovely natures and easy going personalities.
She currently has a lovely filly foal at foot and will be available at
weaning,payment terms available until then(early 09).
Jay has been re-served by Glenvale Kleeshay,bay arabian pony,part welsh,riding
pony stallion and has yet to return.
Jay is registered WP&CS,APSB and RPSB.
$2000 neg. 
 
SHALIDA PARK JUBILEE.
Buckskin arabian pony,part welsh,part APSB yearling filly.Jubes is currently
approx 12.2-13hh and should still grow a fair bit more(dad:14.1-2,mum:12.2).
She is a sweet filly who is extremely easy to do anything with.She is good to
catch,do feet,rug and has been fully body clipped easily.
Jubes is in very good paddock condition and is an easy candidate for a late show
prep for the 09 shows.
$1500.
 
SHALIDA PARK KASIA
Liver chestnut arabian pony,part welsh,APSB weanling filly to mature approx
12-12.2hh.
Kasia is a correct and pretty filly with lovely movement.A definate show filly
and future saddle mount with a lovely temperament.
She will be available after weaning and handling(early 09).
Terms available until then.
$2200 neg
 
SHALIDA PARK CAPRICE
Bay arabian pony,part welsh,APSB weanling filly to mature approx 12.2hh.
Capi is a delightful filly with an incredibly friendly nature.She loves people
and is already very well handled.
With her pretty looks and great movement this filly will be a great show filly
and future child's show pony/best friend.
You will not be able to fault her temperament.
Caprice will be available after weaning and handling(early 09).
Terms available until then
$2500 neg


 










































DONNA FRANCIS
SHALIDA PARK WELSH & ARABIAN PONIES
Breeding quality show ponies
HOME OF:
GLENVALE KLEESHAY...Arabian Pony,Part Welsh,Riding Pony
RICHDALE PLAYTIME...Welsh Sec A.
03 56685286
www.shalidapark.uni.cc
 
 
 


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Hi All,
I've just added photos of Grenwoood Morrigan's son Wyvern Marshall
Express, a grand son of Grenwood Express.  He's now 2 months old and
can be seen in the 2008 foal photo album.

Cheers Carolyn

I will be out of the office starting  14/11/2008 and will not return until
16/11/2009.



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Debra is winding the stud down. Acheron Arwen "D" with a colt foal at
foot are for sale, Acheron Splash of Magic"D" stallion, & yearling
buckskin "D" filly allong with 3 "C" fillies. Contact Debra by email
but allow for some time to answer as I'm not home & Deb is not computer
savvy. Or phone 03)58590269

Stud Clearance



Burrowa Coco Chanel

14hh,16yo Black dun D mare.

Burrowa Black Gwylim X Niscinda welsh time

PTIF for 2009 foal to Bookra stallion $2500



Cob X RP

Rathowen XL X Spring Plains summa

Yearling Pally filly.Mature large pony.$2500

Contact gresam03@...



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Hi to all interested in Grenwood Morrigan.  I have posted some photo's
of her 2008 foal by Seawynd Welsh Prince in the photo album under Cob
Foals 2008. Still unnamed he has 4 small whites, a star & snip and is
2 weeks old in the photo's.

Cheers Carolyn
Wyvern Welsh Cobs
www.freewebs.com/wyvernwelshcobs/

Hello,

I had a PH Liberty made for my cob gelding.It is fabulous.

Bate Innova will also fit.Anything that has wide panels as in WB saddles
should fit:-)

Cheers

Sam



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From: welshcobs@... [mailto:welshcobs@...] On
Behalf Of DelwynR
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 12:56 PM
To: welshcobs@...
Subject: [welshcobs] What saddle does your cob wear?



Hi all,
After lots and lots of work Jock (my 4yo section D)is almost ready to
be backed so I need to get him a sadle that fits properly, here comes
the problem. Jock (and I suspect many other D's) is a wide to extra
wide gullet fitting but only has 45cm of load bearing back (scapular
cartilage to last rib), he has just gone 14.1hh so is definitely big
enough to carry me, however the only saddles that will fit him are
16inch pony show saddles. I really want something 17inches and
preferably easier to stick to as he is still a flighty little fellow.
Anyone have any advice?
Thanks, Delwyn





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Delwyn try the KN Largo. They go in metric sizing and the first size is slightly
under 17inch. I normally ride in a 17 inch but its fine for me.   I purchased
mine for a no withered very short backed 15 hand WB and its been moved onto my
cob now that shes sold. Mine is a Wide which is a 32 cm width.  Don't know if
you can get Barnsbys in Aus but Barnsby make a cob saddle.  They are very
popular here in NZ for cobby type rolly polly ponys.  Judith


   From: DelwynR
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:55 PM
   Subject: [welshcobs] What saddle does your cob wear?


   Hi all,
   After lots and lots of work Jock (my 4yo section D)is almost ready to
   be backed so I need to get him a sadle that fits properly, here comes
   the problem. Jock (and I suspect many other D's) is a wide to extra
   wide gullet fitting but only has 45cm of load bearing back (scapular
   cartilage to last rib), he has just gone 14.1hh so is definitely big
   enough to carry me, however the only saddles that will fit him are
   16inch pony show saddles. I really want something 17inches and
   preferably easier to stick to as he is still a flighty little fellow.
   Anyone have any advice?
   Thanks, Delwyn







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Hi all,
After lots and lots of work Jock (my 4yo section D)is almost ready to
be backed so I need to get him a sadle that fits properly, here comes
the problem. Jock (and I suspect many other D's) is a wide to extra
wide gullet fitting but only has 45cm of load bearing back (scapular
cartilage to last rib), he has just gone 14.1hh so is definitely big
enough to carry me, however the only saddles that will fit him are
16inch pony show saddles. I really want something 17inches and
preferably easier to stick to as he is still a flighty little fellow.
Anyone have any advice?
Thanks, Delwyn

Hi all
I am currently having to sell my sec c mare as the agistment I use has
been sold and after having my 3rd child I have little or no time. She
is bay 13.2 with only a small star. She is a proven breeder and was
broken in 4 yrs ago but was turned out to breed from. I am asking 1500
for her as I really need to sell her.
She is quiet to catch and do anything with..in fact she will follow
you everywhere!!!
anyone interested can contact me for more details on
janellekiss@...
thanks

Thanks everyone I am very pleased with how whinny is going she only just
started her dressage training this year after being mostly a trail and
lead horse

Hi and Welcome Julie, sorry no photos  it was a bit wet so we did our
classes and came straight home
We are heading to a performance show on Sunday so will try and get some
photos then

A good park makes life easier Judith we will be testing my boys this
weekend, his first show and only his 3rd time off the property
Todays ride might have been a bit of help, while practicing our 20 acre
circles  :-)  I had 3 mare trotting around behind me
If he can cope with that then I am hoping the show will be easy, got to
do the first bath tomorrow that will be fun......

Sabina

Neither can I Mona. Its just as well I have 3 others under saddle which stifles
my urge to want to do too much too early.  :)

He certainly has the paces, athleticism, and trainability to go GP
so I cannot see why not.

Judith


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ozwelshcobs
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:44 PM
   Subject: [welshcobs] Re: Goulburn Dressage Championships


   Can't wait to see him under saddle :-)

   See he is a clever cob and knows he is gunna be a grand prix dressage
   horse :-)

   Mona







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Great job Sabina!

I would love to see some pictures if you have any....

Julie Mahoney (new to the welshCob list)

www.pleasantstonewelsh.org


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Sabina
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:36 PM
   Subject: [welshcobs] Goulburn Dressage Championships


   My Welsh Cob mare Grenwood Aeronwen won both the prelim tests and was
   Champion Associate prelim

   You have gotta love cobs 30 min before the class I realized I had
   forgotten my jacket, so threw her on the float, saddled up, flew around
   to a friends up the road grabbed a jacket and got back just in time for
   the gear check and her first test :)

   And it was blowing a gale too

   Scores were 65.2% and 65.41%

   Will have to take some photos when my new rug comes




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congrats sabina,
 well done to you and your cob :-)
yours Dianne




ANDREW AND DIANNE MARSHALL.
  " FOXGLOVE WELSH STUD"
PO BOX 681. YORK WA 6302.
PH 0 8 96412126
MOBILE 0429 090243

--- On Fri, 19/9/08, Sabina <welshcob@...> wrote:

From: Sabina <welshcob@...>
Subject: [welshcobs] Goulburn Dressage Championships
To: welshcobs@...
Received: Friday, 19 September, 2008, 7:36 AM






My Welsh Cob mare Grenwood Aeronwen won both the prelim tests and was
Champion Associate prelim

You have gotta love cobs 30 min before the class I realized I had
forgotten my jacket, so threw her on the float, saddled up, flew around
to a friends up the road grabbed a jacket and got back just in time for
the gear check and her first test :)

And it was blowing a gale too

Scores were 65.2% and 65.41%

Will have to take some photos when my new rug comes















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Go Cobs GO!

Where are some pictures of this athletic guy?

Julie Mahoney
www.pleasantstonewelsh.org


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: ozwelshcobs
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:44 AM
   Subject: [welshcobs] Re: Goulburn Dressage Championships


   Can't wait to see him under saddle :-)

   See he is a clever cob and knows he is gunna be a grand prix dressage
   horse :-)

   Mona





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Can't wait to see him under saddle :-)

See he is a clever cob and knows he is gunna be a grand prix dressage
horse :-)

Mona

Congratulations Sabina.
Cannot wait till Henry is ready for Dressage.  Hes coming out 2-3 days per week
at the moment and getting groundwork and a couple of weeks ago when we were
doing our 'park' at the mounting block I threw a leg over. He did not even move
a muscle let alone twitch an eye.
Plan is to back him this time next year and then watch out folks.
Meanwhile he is practising his piaffe and passage (our private joke here at
home) in hand.  He is doing well in Shoulder in and
Leg Yeilds and seems to catch on very well so who knows :)

Judith


----- Original Message -----
   From: Sabina
   To: welshcobs@...
   Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:36 AM
   Subject: [welshcobs] Goulburn Dressage Championships


   My Welsh Cob mare Grenwood Aeronwen won both the prelim tests and was
   Champion Associate prelim

   You have gotta love cobs 30 min before the class I realized I had
   forgotten my jacket, so threw her on the float, saddled up, flew around
   to a friends up the road grabbed a jacket and got back just in time for
   the gear check and her first test :)

   And it was blowing a gale too

   Scores were 65.2% and 65.41%

   Will have to take some photos when my new rug comes






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