Howdy All,

FYI: We did some Wushu discussion and review on the latest episode (8)
of 2d6 Feet in a Random Direction. Overall, I think it's a very
positive review, and from linkbacks, it looks like I've netted at
least one new fan.  ;)

The episode is at http://www.2d6feet.com/?p=22  or via iTunes.  The
Wushu portion comes on at 37:21 and runs about 10 minutes.

Thanks all!

Brian

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Hi I had a few thoughts on this,

> Advancement as written is a simple matter of gaining a couple points
> every adventure or so, and distributing those to increase die caps and
> Traits (or buy new Traits).

This is great if you can make it work, but given the narrow 2-5 range
of stats it always seemed a bit wrong to toss a few more points in
there. I have tried once to give someone a new trait as part of the
shuffle around of stats between adventures. Stingy GM that I am I made
them drop a point for it ;) .

> --- In wushurpg@..., "reverendbayn" <dan@b...> wrote:
> > I've always found that the key to running long term games
> > is to get he players to invest in changing the setting, rather
> > than their character sheets.

I tend to agree here with the padre 'o' wushu here. My only proviso is
that when you have a group of ex-D&Ders or a bunch of white-wolfers
its hard for them to let go of xp. Or if you're trying to slowly
reform some power-gamers.

The rule I use tries to balance these two. This is shamelessly taken
from the wushu wiki and I think from something related in marvel
universe (?). Anyway every session a character gets to write down
something memorable and specific from within the session. "Its always
easier the second time" comes to mind here. The PC can cash in this
past experience once per session to add a die to their die pool for
free as long as it is loosely related to this past experience.

For example, in a Fantasy campaign, Grok the Destroyer (sigh, yes the
actual name), performed a grisly decapitation on an orc leader,
stunning his warband enough that they failed to respond to a hidden
group of archers. He wrote down something along the lines of, "No
respect for decorum - warchiefs don't need heads." Since then my
player has used this twice, once to behead a captain of the guard, and
another time as part of intimidating another orc leader. As long as
its close to the original act.
This leads to some signature moves, which fits the genre as long as it
doesnt lead to repeating the same series of actions again and again. I
like this a lot better than unbalancing things by adding lots of
points after every session and adds a sort of memoir or book of
exploits. Those tavern stories arent just to wow the locals.

Let me know your thoughts,
-w

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Quite a while back, there was a very nicely done character sheet for
Wushu done in landscape format, two character sheets side by side. I
still have the PDF, and like it an awful lot, but I'm trying to figure
out how I can add text fields in the lines, and boxes so I can fill
them out on screen.

Can anyone help me out? Either by editing the file itself to allow
text entries on the lines (I can send the file if nobody has it) or
sending me an email telling me how to run my fancy copy of Adobe 6 so
I can insert the text lines?

--- Aaron Smith <blackcat1313@...> wrote:

>     Another way to think of a weakness is as a
> roleplaying aid. A player
> is very very unlikely to get themselves into a
> situation where they must
> roll against the trait of 1. How that trait is
> defined, is more of a
> roleplaying guideline. So, you see Superman staying
> the heck away from
> Kryptonite, Spiderman having all kinds of issues in
> his normal life, and
> the Punisher having serious issues when trying to
> act like a normal
> human being.
>
>     None of those characters is rolling against a
> trait that is at 1,
> because they're roleplaying thier weakness. If one
> of those characters
> were to actually FIGHT the weakness, eg: Spiderman
> being somehow a hero
> to his boss, Superman being mysteriously immune to
> the effects of the
> Kryptonite, the Punisher sitting down in a formal
> resturant and having a
> nice normal evening out, then the player would be
> rolling against a
> trait of 1.
>
>     If my character has a weakness that says "A
> woman in a man's world"
> and I narrate my character being accepted on even
> footing with men, or
> trying to act in a manner that is contrary to the
> given role, then I
> roll against a one. If I play to type with
> seduction, manipulation, and
> flirtatiousness, then I don't roll vs a 1.

There we go, it's explained in a way that finaly
penetrates my skull.

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--- Fred Furtado <planetfred@...> wrote:

> Citando Martin Hall <redwulf25_ci@...>:
>
> > Can someone post a few examples of how this
> mechanic
> > works?  Especialy if you can use examples of
> things
> > like alergys and adictions as well as superhero
> like
> > examples of a weakness against fire and a weakness
> > against kryptonite . . .
>
>   I'm not a Wushu master, but I believe whenever a
> weakness comes into play, you
> only have successes if the dice come up 1.

This part I understand.

For
> example, say a characters has
> Swordmaster of Itabi 5 and Violence 1. He arrives
> home to see his wife and
> child murdered and the perpetrator laughing
> maniacally over their corpses.
> Normally, in a battle scene, the character would
> probably roll against his
> Swordmaster Trait, but since he is obviosuly
> enraged, he can't concentrate well
> enough to use his skill. Unfortunately for him. :]
>   A more traditional super-hero weakness could ne
> used in the same way, I guess.
> Superman only roll successes in the presence of
> Kryptonite if the dice come up
> 1.

That sounds like it might work for somethings but
misses a lot of them . . .

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Another way to think of a weakness is as a roleplaying aid. A player
is very very unlikely to get themselves into a situation where they must
roll against the trait of 1. How that trait is defined, is more of a
roleplaying guideline. So, you see Superman staying the heck away from
Kryptonite, Spiderman having all kinds of issues in his normal life, and
the Punisher having serious issues when trying to act like a normal
human being.

     None of those characters is rolling against a trait that is at 1,
because they're roleplaying thier weakness. If one of those characters
were to actually FIGHT the weakness, eg: Spiderman being somehow a hero
to his boss, Superman being mysteriously immune to the effects of the
Kryptonite, the Punisher sitting down in a formal resturant and having a
nice normal evening out, then the player would be rolling against a
trait of 1.

     If my character has a weakness that says "A woman in a man's world"
and I narrate my character being accepted on even footing with men, or
trying to act in a manner that is contrary to the given role, then I
roll against a one. If I play to type with seduction, manipulation, and
flirtatiousness, then I don't roll vs a 1.

Aaron S.

Citando Martin Hall <redwulf25_ci@...>:

> Can someone post a few examples of how this mechanic
> works?  Especialy if you can use examples of things
> like alergys and adictions as well as superhero like
> examples of a weakness against fire and a weakness
> against kryptonite . . .

   I'm not a Wushu master, but I believe whenever a weakness comes into play, you
only have successes if the dice come up 1. For example, say a characters has
Swordmaster of Itabi 5 and Violence 1. He arrives home to see his wife and
child murdered and the perpetrator laughing maniacally over their corpses.
Normally, in a battle scene, the character would probably roll against his
Swordmaster Trait, but since he is obviosuly enraged, he can't concentrate well
enough to use his skill. Unfortunately for him. :]
   A more traditional super-hero weakness could ne used in the same way, I guess.
Superman only roll successes in the presence of Kryptonite if the dice come up
1.
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Can someone post a few examples of how this mechanic
works?  Especialy if you can use examples of things
like alergys and adictions as well as superhero like
examples of a weakness against fire and a weakness
against kryptonite . . .

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Feel free to upload as needed.  I didn't want to do so myself until
folks had a chance to comment and such.

Thanks!

--- In wushurpg@..., "Dev Purkayastha"
<dev.purkayastha@g...> wrote:
>
> Nice work. Could you post it to a more publicly visible place, or
> alternately, could I upload it onto my webspace? (So that non-members
> of the group could repost it.)
>
>    -d
>
> On 8/27/06, Brian Isikoff <brian.isikoff@g...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >    Howdy All,
> >
> >  Just a brief word that I've uploaded the pdf booklet "Wushu
Collected"
> >  to the files section.   :)
> >
> >  Wushu Collected prints as a digest-sized booklet, and features the
> >  Wushu Open and Wushu Open Reloaded texts in their entirety.  I
believe
> >  both are covered under the CC license, so hopefull I haven't stepped
> >  on anyone's toes.
> >
> >  I've been really enjoying lots of printed indie games lately, and
came
> >  back and figured why not whip one up for Wushu, another favorite of
> >  mine.
> >
> >  Enjoy!
> >
> >  Brian
> >
> >  --
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> >  http://www.1000buffalo.com
> >
>

Nice work. Could you post it to a more publicly visible place, or
alternately, could I upload it onto my webspace? (So that non-members
of the group could repost it.)

    -d

On 8/27/06, Brian Isikoff <brian.isikoff@...> wrote:
>
>
>    Howdy All,
>
>  Just a brief word that I've uploaded the pdf booklet "Wushu Collected"
>  to the files section.   :)
>
>  Wushu Collected prints as a digest-sized booklet, and features the
>  Wushu Open and Wushu Open Reloaded texts in their entirety.  I believe
>  both are covered under the CC license, so hopefull I haven't stepped
>  on anyone's toes.
>
>  I've been really enjoying lots of printed indie games lately, and came
>  back and figured why not whip one up for Wushu, another favorite of
>  mine.
>
>  Enjoy!
>
>  Brian
>
>  --
>  1000 buffalo stampede
>  http://www.1000buffalo.com
>

Howdy All,

Just a brief word that I've uploaded the pdf booklet "Wushu Collected"
to the files section.   :)

Wushu Collected prints as a digest-sized booklet, and features the
Wushu Open and Wushu Open Reloaded texts in their entirety.  I believe
both are covered under the CC license, so hopefull I haven't stepped
on anyone's toes.

I've been really enjoying lots of printed indie games lately, and came
back and figured why not whip one up for Wushu, another favorite of
mine.

Enjoy!

Brian

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On 7/26/06, John Halsey <thricedamnedgorol@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Heya,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has used the special ability rules like in the Star
Wars Clone Wars wushu game or those posted in the Fan Rules of the wiki.
> Are they redundant or unnecessary?

I would say yes, but I always say yes to that question, asked of any
additional Wushu rules.  It's a common controversy.  Adding to the
rules seems pretty against their spirit.

As far as the rest, my philosophical positions prevent me from trying
abilities out, so I can't answer properly.

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--- norbertgmatausch
<norbertgmatausch@...> wrote:

> My name is Norbert G. Matausch, I'm a 35 year-old
> German, roleplayer
> since 1984 and think Wushu is friggin' cool. I just
> wanted to say hi
> to you all and I'm looking forward to being a member
> of this group."

Ah. Another german roleplayer. Given the lack of
gaming I've had the last five years, I'm starting to
think I should leave the U.S. and head over there.  :)

Welcome to the group, although there doesn't seem to
really be any activity. Really, there's not a lot to
talk about with Wushu it seems... It's pretty cool,
but most of the Wushu people are pretty opposed to
adding any rules that make it crunchy so not much to
really talk about at the end of the day. Bailywolf on
rpgnet has had some interesting things he's done with
Wushu (he's responsible for one of the Wushu Exalted
versions out there), but he freely admits he's adding
more rules than many Wushu fans might like.

Not sure if you've seen it, but for answering any
questions you might have, you can always check this
thread here:

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=253715

It's a pretty good compilation of Wushu threads that
was made before they reinstituted the Search feature
on rpgnet.

http://wiki.saberpunk.net/Wushu/HomePage

The Wushu wiki might be of some help to you as well.

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--- In wushurpg@..., "Dev Purkayastha"
<dev.purkayastha@g...> wrote:
>
> Hey there. I've read TSOY and played Wushu, so let me toss in my cents.

Hi Dev, same here, same here ;)

> Here's what I'd do with Keys: If you feel you fulfilled your Key in a
> round, you can bank 1 Held Die into that key, storing up a max of 3
> Held Dice in each one (that you can unleash for a bigger bonus, or
> even hand out to others as a bonus). For a buyoff, you can scratch off
> the key and get a one-time boost of 5 Held Dice to use however, but
> they're only usable in the context of this conflict. Finally, you can
> buy new Keys for 1 Chi each.

Sounds pretty interesting, but would increase bookkeeping -- not much,
though. How would you handle the Keys exactly? Would you say that each
successful application of a Key yields one Held Die, or would you do
it more TSOY-like, giving the player the more dice (XP) the more
complicated the situation gets? I'd go with option #1, one application
of a Key is one Held Die.

Slowly, he touched the keyboard of his laptop, the screen flickering
in the darkness/just seconds ago, he had clicked on the "Join this
Group" button/and within moments, he had been taken into the secret
virtual lair of this group called "wushurpg"/tentatively, he typed a
word: "Hello"/he gulped down the rest of his drink/too late now; this
was no time for cowards/he continued, typing with two fingers/"Hello.
My name is Norbert G. Matausch, I'm a 35 year-old German, roleplayer
since 1984 and think Wushu is friggin' cool. I just wanted to say hi
to you all and I'm looking forward to being a member of this group."

:)

Hey there. I've read TSOY and played Wushu, so let me toss in my cents.

(BTW, if you're not familiar with The Shadow of Yesterday, it's
CreativeCommons licensed! So you can read the game free online[1], or
check out the free version of the stripped-down, quasigeneric form of
the system [2]. I've read the latter myself.)

I think that TSOY has a number of interesting mechanics. Stuff that I
think is cool:

* There's XP, but most importantly is about *how* you gain XP, i.e. by
hitting on the self-identified Keys that define your character.
(Example: Key of Cowardice, get 1 XP for each time you're cowardly.)
There's also a feature to these keys called buyoff, where you get a
big one-time XP bonus (and strike the Key from your sheet) if you
choose to do something that goes against your Key. (Example:
Buyoff=10XP for standing your ground in a deadly situation.)

* You also have these important resource pools, and the only way to
refresh them is by engaging in some possibly conflict-ridden way with
the other players. (So a social challenge, a mental challenge, a
physical challenge.)

* There are things called "Secrets", but to some extent they're just a
bit like neat powerups that let you do cool things.

* Bringing Down the Pain, which is more or less like going into
bullettime. You break down your action into rounds of conflict, and
the stakes can change in the middle if you've got the advantage (from
"I graze him with my bow" to "I take down him and all his guards").

Beyond that, there's the fudgelike scale of abilities. So which of
these things do you want to port into Wushu? (Or vice versa?)

Here's what I'd do with Keys: If you feel you fulfilled your Key in a
round, you can bank 1 Held Die into that key, storing up a max of 3
Held Dice in each one (that you can unleash for a bigger bonus, or
even hand out to others as a bonus). For a buyoff, you can scratch off
the key and get a one-time boost of 5 Held Dice to use however, but
they're only usable in the context of this conflict. Finally, you can
buy new Keys for 1 Chi each.

     -d

[1] http://www.anvilwerks.com/?The-Shadow-of-Yesterday
[2] http://www.anvilwerks.com/src/tsoy2/solar_system.html

First off, I realize that many people think Wushu is
just fine the way it is.

For those that don't however, how do you think it
would be blending together Wushu and TSOY (The Shadows
of Yesterday)?

The new version of TSOY is a Fudge based/derived
implementation. It's scale is about similar to Wushu.
It comes with XP and all those other bits that people
seem to want.

At the end of the day, one of the _primary_ things
that makes Wushu what it is, is the PoNT (Principle of
Narrative Truth). Along with dice cap and dice based
on description. Anyone with experience care to
comment? I haven't had a chance to actually try
assembling this yet, and it'd be nice to know what
people think before I do.

Oh, and before someone suggests it... No, I didn't
post this to rpgent, and did not do so very
deliberately. My only other tentative idea was
dismissed immediately, and I'm interested in actually
trying to discuss this one.

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No, the pages were already formatted for landscape, and I printed them
landscape.  I can't remember how I moved it (Maybe I just shrunk it a
little), but I made an extra half-inch along the top edge.  Perfectly
usable.

This from someone who depsises electronic formats and ordinarilty
refuses to buy 'em.

--- In wushurpg@..., "Travis" <tensider@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Two questions on your solution:
>
> 1) Did that create portrait-oriented pages, or did you have
> landscape pages with a larger gutter on the left side? I'm shooting
> for the former.
>
> 2) If it did create portrait-oriented pages, where did you change
> the guttering? I can't find any options in Acrobat Pro that will
> allow me to change the document properties.
>
> Thanks!
> travis
>
>
>
> --- In wushurpg@..., "John" <longspeak@c...> wrote:
> >
> > My copies weren't formatted for the screen, but for landscaped
> letter-
> > sized paper.  I simply set the gutter an bit higher on one edge
> for
> > the hole-punch and printed 'em out.
> >
> > John
> >
>